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Mediocre Man said:
What screams rebuild about Hammon and not Billups?
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Yeah, I just don't think that they're hiring anyone that they don't see helping win more games immediately. The only way we go into a full on rebuild is if Dame asks out which I still do not see him doing. I don't see Dame asking for a trade at all but I think it's crazy to think he won't be giving the team at least this next season to show that they're headed in the right direction.
 
Mediocre Man said:
What screams rebuild about Hammon and not Billups?
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Billups isn’t Hammon. Be real here. You’re going with a first time HC…ok….one has been an assistant for 7 years for pop which is great. The other has been an assistant for only one, after playing in the league forever, winning a title, then tv work - more in line with a Nash or Kerr type. I firmly stand by my thoughts on Hammon, and just get more and more confident in it the more I hear.

here’s what I think is happening or will happen. There’s a three headed monster in charge of the next hire of head coach, Damian, Neil and Jody. Neil at this point is telling Jody - I’ll gladly make the hire, I know who I want just give me the green light. I think Neil likes MDA, then Billups. Damian likes Billups and if it’s MDA that’s fine too. Jody wants Becky. I think they make an offer fairly soon but it could go either way. As much as it ruffles feathers I do, really, think Dame would ask to go if he doesn’t like the hire. Hard to believe but it would not surprise me. Neil at this point is almost deferring - like just make a decision here are the three. I also think he ***may*** tell Jody ‘go ahead with Hammon, here’s the risk if we do (Damian) but I’m fine if you are’. I think Neil is sick of being a big fish in a little pond and it’s getting old. That’s the job of GM in Portland vs LA, NY, SF etc.

Just my two cents and who they F knows if something comes out of left field.
 
calvin natt said:
Billups isn’t Hammon. Be real here. You’re going with a first time HC…ok….one has been an assistant for 7 years for pop which is great. The other has been an assistant for only one, after playing in the league forever, winning a title, then tv work - more in line with a Nash or Kerr type. I firmly stand by my thoughts on Hammon, and just get more and more confident in it the more I hear.

here’s what I think is happening or will happen. There’s a three headed monster in charge of the next hire of head coach, Damian, Neil and Jody. Neil at this point is telling Jody - I’ll gladly make the hire, I know who I want just give me the green light. I think Neil likes MDA, then Billups. Damian likes Billups and if it’s MDA that’s fine too. Jody wants Becky. I think they make an offer fairly soon but it could go either way. As much as it ruffles feathers I do, really, think Dame would ask to go if he doesn’t like the hire. Hard to believe but it would not surprise me. Neil at this point is almost deferring - like just make a decision here are the three. I also think he ***may*** tell Jody ‘go ahead with Hammon, here’s the risk if we do (Damian) but I’m fine if you are’. I think Neil is sick of being a big fish in a little pond and it’s getting old. That’s the job of GM in Portland vs LA, NY, SF etc.

Just my two cents and who they F knows if something comes out of left field.
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I doubt olshey prefers mda to Billups. I can see dame liking him, because what point guard wouldn’t and he’s also experienced. I also know Dame thinks highly of Hammon and Billups. I think he’d be ok with all three. If anyone is pushing for Billups it’s Olshey imo. Ownership might prefer Hammon, but if they knew what they were doing, they would defer to the basketball guy.
 
If presented with FACTS about Becky, why would Jody veto everyone and make the call when she hasnt been involved in a single big decision until now?
 
If ownership is so adamant about Hammon why wouldn’t olshey just go along with it? If it goes bad he can hold it over their head, we know he loves doing that with the media/fans.

This all just seems like pure speculation. Stein has never broken a Blazers story in his life, but now we’re supposed to believe what he says? If we’re still sitting here a week from now without a decision then yeah maybe we get worried, but right now? Nah.
 
Scalma said:
This all just seems like pure speculation. If we’re still sitting here a week from now without a decision then yeah maybe we get worried, but right now? Nah.
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agreed. Two of the three are still yet to meet with ownership. I refuse to believe that : 1. Theyre all impulsive and make rash decisions on who they like/dont like before interviews, and 2. They're so divergent on their views that theyd use the media to pressure a decision being made.

This isnt a circus. Contrary to belief, our front office is pretty normal in the grand scheme of things.
 
Hammon would get a lot of attention and a lot of pressure being a first woman coach in the NBA. She would probably be better off on a rebuilding team with low expectations.
 
I think it’s lazy “reporting” to suggest that the owner prefers Hammon because she wants to “make history.” Nothing about her actual qualifications as a coach. I doubt that’d be the narrative if the owner was a dude. This is what I’m talking about, we wanna pretend it’s all equal, but we live in a world full of morons and mobs. We don’t even listen to doctors and scientists anymore. It’s all a joke.
 
Scalma said:
I think it’s lazy “reporting” to suggest that the owner prefers Hammon because she wants to “make history.” Nothing about her actual qualifications as a coach. I doubt that’d be the narrative if the owner was a dude. This is what I’m talking about, we wanna pretend it’s all equal, but we live in a world full of morons and mobs.
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If there was a guy who had never played in the League, who had just been an assistant, doesn't seem to have a defined Asst Coach role, it seems like there would be some legitimate questions.

Maybe she is the best candidate. Tough to know. But seems fair to ask questions.
 
TBpup said:
If there was a guy who had never played in the League, who had just been an assistant, doesn't seem to have a defined Asst Coach role, it seems like there would be some legitimate questions.

Maybe she is the best candidate. Tough to know. But seems fair to ask questions.
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careful, they may accuse you of being sexist.
 
TBpup said:
If there was a guy who had never played in the League, who had just been an assistant, doesn't seem to have a defined Asst Coach role, it seems like there would be some legitimate questions.

Maybe she is the best candidate. Tough to know. But seems fair to ask questions.
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Who's saying it isnt fair to ask questions?
 
Does this not seem like a guy you’d want to hire? I can’t think of a more perfect mentor for Dame and, at this point, keeping Dame happy and in a Blazers uniform should be priority #1.
 
brooklynballer said:
Does this not seem like a guy you’d want to hire? I can’t think of a more perfect mentor for Dame and, at this point, keeping Dame happy and in a Blazers uniform should be priority #1.
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All looks good.

Coaching experience:
1 yr as an assistant.
 
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illmatic99 said:
All looks good.

Coaching experience:
1 yr as an assistant.
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He’s been around basketball his whole life and has played for a number of coaches and in a number of different systems, including a championship system. I’d gather he picked up a few coaching tips along the way. Becky, on the other hand, has never played a single minute in the NBA and I have a hard time believing she’ll command the respect of a team full of men on Day 1. Doesn’t seem like a good time to be experimenting, especially with the pressure on the team to succeed next year.
 
calvin natt said:
Billups isn’t Hammon. Be real here. You’re going with a first time HC…ok….one has been an assistant for 7 years for pop which is great. The other has been an assistant for only one, after playing in the league forever, winning a title, then tv work - more in line with a Nash or Kerr type. I firmly stand by my thoughts on Hammon, and just get more and more confident in it the more I hear.

here’s what I think is happening or will happen. There’s a three headed monster in charge of the next hire of head coach, Damian, Neil and Jody. Neil at this point is telling Jody - I’ll gladly make the hire, I know who I want just give me the green light. I think Neil likes MDA, then Billups. Damian likes Billups and if it’s MDA that’s fine too. Jody wants Becky. I think they make an offer fairly soon but it could go either way. As much as it ruffles feathers I do, really, think Dame would ask to go if he doesn’t like the hire. Hard to believe but it would not surprise me. Neil at this point is almost deferring - like just make a decision here are the three. I also think he ***may*** tell Jody ‘go ahead with Hammon, here’s the risk if we do (Damian) but I’m fine if you are’. I think Neil is sick of being a big fish in a little pond and it’s getting old. That’s the job of GM in Portland vs LA, NY, SF etc.

Just my two cents and who they F knows if something comes out of left field.
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Jody Allen would be a Grade A moron to hire someone knowing Dame would immediately ask for a trade.

I mean… The starting point for any candidate should be, “will Dame stay here.”

If that answer is no, they shouldn’t be considered. Period.

Not just in a basketball sense, but it would immediately tank the value of the franchise. Portland fans would riot.

It would be horrible business wise and basketball wise.

I simply cannot imagine her being that stupid.

Maybe I am wrong.
 
brooklynballer said:
He’s been around basketball his whole life and has played for a number of coaches and in a number of different systems, including a championship system. I’d gather he picked up a few coaching tips along the way. Becky, on the other hand, has never played a single minute in the NBA and I have a hard time believing she’ll command the respect of a team full of men on Day 1. Doesn’t seem like a good time to be experimenting, especially with the pressure on the team to succeed next year.
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Dont disagree about Billups time in the NBA. But the idealist in me wants to believe that the players will fully respect Becky's background and credentials.

Plenty of coaches were successful in the league without having played. Popovich included.
 
illmatic99 said:
Dont disagree about Billups time in the NBA. But the idealist in me wants to believe that the players will fully respect Becky's background and credentials.

Plenty of coaches were successful in the league without having played. Popovich included.
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It’s a different time. I think guys that played are more valued now than ever before. It’s not as easy to connect with players in this day and age. Billups would get instant respect. I don’t think a guy like pop would be as easily accepted if he were a rookie coach.
 
brooklynballer said:
Does this not seem like a guy you’d want to hire? I can’t think of a more perfect mentor for Dame and, at this point, keeping Dame happy and in a Blazers uniform should be priority #1.
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Now list Magic Johnson's accomplishments, and how his coaching was?
 
TBpup said:
If there was a guy who had never played in the League, who had just been an assistant, doesn't seem to have a defined Asst Coach role, it seems like there would be some legitimate questions.

Maybe she is the best candidate. Tough to know. But seems fair to ask questions.
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They’ll link articles with players talking about how awesome she is.

But they won’t tell you any stats about what her coaching has resulted in improvement wise.

“Becky took over the offense / defense and they went from 20th to 10th.”

“Becky is responsible for working with Dejounte and DeMar, resulting in improved shooting and increased playmaking opportunities.”

don’t expect anything like that..

oh but wait, what time we were working on the pick and roll and she told Murray to throw a bounce pass instead of a chest pass and to get it higher.
 
JoshuaHall said:
Jody Allen would be a Grade A moron to hire someone knowing Dame would immediately ask for a trade.

I mean… The starting point for any candidate should be, “will Dame stay here.”

If that answer is no, they shouldn’t be considered. Period.

Not just in a basketball sense, but it would immediately tank the value of the franchise. Portland fans would riot.

It would be horrible business wise and basketball wise.

I simply cannot imagine her being that stupid.

Maybe I am wrong.
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If she cares more about PR than championships , then yes she could be that stupid.
 
illmatic99 said:
The Paul George creator thing?
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He also was responsible for Kawhi and Reggie Jackson, and based on the article, some of the offensive schemes as well.

As he told Paul George, “I’m not making any adjustments to our offense until they make adjustments with Gobert; until then, keep going north and south.” It was also stated that he was scheming to “create less iso heavy offense”

This would imply he is at least partially responsible for offensive schemes and game playing.

Not to mention the direct improvement in playmaking (with stats to back it up).

So I mean, quite a bit in there that attests directly to what he has done.
 
JoshuaHall said:
They’ll link articles with players talking about how awesome she is.

But they won’t tell you any stats about what her coaching has resulted in improvement wise.

“Becky took over the offense / defense and they went from 20th to 10th.”

“Becky is responsible for working with Dejounte and DeMar, resulting in improved shooting and increased playmaking opportunities.”

don’t expect anything like that..

oh but wait, what time we were working on the pick and roll and she told Murray to throw a bounce pass instead of a chest pass and to get it higher.
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Did you hear anything like this about Monty Williams before he got his first HC job? Or Lue before he got promoted in Cleveland? Hell, how about Udoka? Just because there wasn't a 2 minute profile on her player development work on ESPN in the middle of a game, doesnt mean ir didn't happen
 
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JoshuaHall said:
Jody Allen would be a Grade A moron to hire someone knowing Dame would immediately ask for a trade.

I mean… The starting point for any candidate should be, “will Dame stay here.”

If that answer is no, they shouldn’t be considered. Period.

Not just in a basketball sense, but it would immediately tank the value of the franchise. Portland fans would riot.

It would be horrible business wise and basketball wise.

I simply cannot imagine her being that stupid.

Maybe I am wrong.
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If you are correct, and I think you are, then Dame approves of all the finalists.
 
brooklynballer said:
If she cares more about PR than championships , then yes she could be that stupid.
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The thing is, it would be an absolute PR nightmare if Dame requested a trade. Much worse ALL around than whatever benefit there would be to hiring Becky.

So from a business, basketball and PR standpoint, she’d have to be an absolute dolt. Which I don’t believe she is.
 
illmatic99 said:
Dont disagree about Billups time in the NBA. But the idealist in me wants to believe that the players will fully respect Becky's background and credentials.

Plenty of coaches were successful in the league without having played. Popovich included.
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And what background and credentials would those be? That’s she’s worked with Pop for seven years? Is that a guarantee of future success? All I’m saying is this hire is going to make or break the franchise for better or for worse. I’d rather go with the guy that the star player has endorsed on record.
 
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