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yankeesince59

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...per MLB network...4 years salary not disclosed.
 
Well, my source was right. He said 4 years. Hopefully I will hear more rumors from him.
 
...from what I had heard, 4 years was almost a given...just sayin'.


...I think 4 years/$40 is fair but he'll probably get a littler more.
 
Okay - for me, his defense is the deciding factor.
If he were mediocre or less of a fielder - his offense/power numbers won't swing the deal for me.

He'll play very good defense, and he should hopefully give us at least .250-260, .340/355 OBP, 15-20 HRs.

That'll do fine on a consistent basis for the next couple of years, I guess.
There's also a very fair chance he'll step up and raise his game.
My goodness, could he actually flourish being a Yankee and welcoming the "action" and "big time" atmosphere that goes along with it?
 
In other news the White sox & Melky Cabrera have agreed to a 3 year contract reportedly for $42M
 
Rick2583 said:
In other news the White sox & Melky Cabrera have agreed to a 3 year contract reportedly for $42M
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Two thoughts.

1) On paper the WhiteSox are now just about as good as any other team in the A.L.,
...and they may prove it.
2) The games aren't played on paper. lol
 
blgridesagain said:
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Two thoughts.

1) On paper the WhiteSox are now just about as good as any other team in the A.L.,
...and they may prove it.
2) The games aren't played on paper. lol
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And #3 would be, $14M per DAMN! it pays to cheat.
 
...all things considered, I'm not jumping for joy over this deal.
 
Rick2583 said:
And #3 would be, $14M per DAMN! it pays to cheat.
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How exactly did it "pay to cheat"? His suspension was also a fine. Didn't that cost him money? Than afterwards he demonstrated his ability to produce at the plate, conforming to the new drug policy.... Thus showing his ability was independent to the perceived " performance enhancement". Your statement is pure hyperbole.

In reality it pays to produce and be a stand up guy, owning your actions. Isn't that the message MLB wants to send? Don't cheat, well catch you. If we catch you, you will do time. After you do time, we will take you back, watch you closely, but you have every opportunity to succeed....and your success will further diminish the desire to cheat.

We can't keep convicting these guys based on past transgressions, otherwise make first offense a lifetime ban. Happy to discuss the latter option with very specific criteria.

And of course you knew I was going to say this.... ;)
 
yankeesince59 said:
...all things considered, I'm not jumping for joy over this deal.
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I'm only jumping for joy if he has to buy a firstbasemens mitt and he plays 3B/1B positions like Youk and Pujols used to.
 
It's way over due to create performance based contracts in lieu of multi Millions year after year. Give Heady say, 10 Mil a Year, loaded with incentives, for Games Played, B'Avg./ Fldg. Pctg./ RBI's/ Runs/ you name it.....

We used to get paid for our performance via fat bonuses, upon completion of a Performance Mgmt. Plan...I've always felt the best way to pay if for play, and rewards upon excelling....
 
Mattingly23NY said:
It's way over due to create performance based contracts in lieu of multi Millions year after year. Give Heady say, 10 Mil a Year, loaded with incentives, for Games Played, B'Avg./ Fldg. Pctg./ RBI's/ Runs/ you name it.....

We used to get paid for our performance via fat bonuses, upon completion of a Performance Mgmt. Plan...I've always felt the best way to pay if for play, and rewards upon excelling....
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Wait...you want to pay based on performance? How dare you suggest such an overtly capitalistic concept. What's next, some form of profit sharing dividend related to franchise earnings? No way the communists in the MLBPA go for that.
 
We can talk about the contract all we want but I'm just happy to have Headley. Great glove, solid clubhouse guy (a gamer) and 20HR potential all while working pitch counts. Gives options for Prado and either Refsnyder/Pirela without having to rely on either out of the gate. I much prefer having a debate on him being signed one year too long that about him signing elsewhere and what it means for the Yanks.
 
bern_baby_bern said:
We can talk about the contract all we want but I'm just happy to have Headley. Great glove, solid clubhouse guy (a gamer) and 20HR potential all while working pitch counts. Gives options for Prado and either Refsnyder/Pirela without having to rely on either out of the gate. I much prefer having a debate on him being signed one year too long that about him signing elsewhere and what it means for the Yanks.
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I think they just happen to be in a position where they didn't have much of a choice. If no Headley they're way too thin on the infield.
 
totus44 said:
How exactly did it "pay to cheat"? His suspension was also a fine. Didn't that cost him money? Than afterwards he demonstrated his ability to produce at the plate, conforming to the new drug policy.... Thus showing his ability was independent to the perceived " performance enhancement". Your statement is pure hyperbole.

In reality it pays to produce and be a stand up guy, owning your actions. Isn't that the message MLB wants to send? Don't cheat, well catch you. If we catch you, you will do time. After you do time, we will take you back, watch you closely, but you have every opportunity to succeed....and your success will further diminish the desire to cheat.

We can't keep convicting these guys based on past transgressions, otherwise make first offense a lifetime ban. Happy to discuss the latter option with very specific criteria.

And of course you knew I was going to say this.... ;)
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Well excuse me Father Flanagan but that's that's some of the dumbest crock of shit I've ever heard. But coming from & your habit of disagreeing with just about everybody I shouldn't be surprised. With that said......

1) Which to you and I would have been equivalent to perhaps $100.00 Holy shit that had to hurt.

2) If he was a STAND UP guy he wouldn't have cheated to begin with.

3) And we'll give you enough money to last you a lifetime.
 
bern_baby_bern said:
We can talk about the contract all we want but I'm just happy to have Headley. Great glove, solid clubhouse guy (a gamer) and 20HR potential all while working pitch counts. Gives options for Prado and either Refsnyder/Pirela without having to rely on either out of the gate. I much prefer having a debate on him being signed one year too long that about him signing elsewhere and what it means for the Yanks.
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Bern I see your point & I really hope this signing doesn't take away from giving one of the kids a solid chance.
 
The problem is that Headley outside of one season puts up numbers worthy of a platoon player.
 
totus44 said:
Wait...you want to pay based on performance? How dare you suggest such an overtly capitalistic concept. What's next, some form of profit sharing dividend related to franchise earnings? No way the communists in the MLBPA go for that.
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Dividend/Profit sharing, a great concept, maybe provided to a player who has played on the same team for ???? 10 years, and they're vested...! Good Idea Tote...! LOL...!

You know tho' Movies are not a sport, watching the way Jack Nicholson would take less pay, while contractually receiving a percentage of Batman/Joker profits, from an industry that often yields more cash than the movie itself. Or at least a very nice fat bonus system...
 
On this mornings Sports center Headley was quoted as saying that he turned down more money to stay with the Yankees. From who?
 
...rumor is that it was Houston that supposedly offered him 4 years/$65 Mil.
 
That's just nuts. $16.5 per for a player with his numbers.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
It's way over due to create performance based contracts in lieu of multi Millions year after year. Give Heady say, 10 Mil a Year, loaded with incentives, for Games Played, B'Avg./ Fldg. Pctg./ RBI's/ Runs/ you name it.....

We used to get paid for our performance via fat bonuses, upon completion of a Performance Mgmt. Plan...I've always felt the best way to pay if for play, and rewards upon excelling....
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Ask Eddie Cicotte his thoughts on performance bonuses
 
Rick2583 said:
Well excuse me Father Flanagan but that's that's some of the dumbest crock of shit I've ever heard. But coming from & your habit of disagreeing with just about everybody I shouldn't be surprised. With that said......

1) Which to you and I would have been equivalent to perhaps $100.00 Holy shit that had to hurt.

2) If he was a STAND UP guy he wouldn't have cheated to begin with.

3) And we'll give you enough money to last you a lifetime.
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Rick, if you want to reply and have a discussion its helpful if you actually address the points I made. Instead you just waived everything into a lump and called it worthless. Look, you have a problem and its really holding you back. These guys are entertainers, entertainers may a lot of money for what appears minimal effort. Its a pretty exclusive club and your rules of life/reality don't necessarily translate onto them. These facts will never change...let it go. They have a much better union representing them. This isn't the game you played as a kid....this is a big business version. Their union agreed to suspensions and fines, but no other ramifications can be enforced upon a player once they do their time. This is why we have to tap dance around ARod and let him fail to perform, their are no other viable legal angles unless the FEDS make a case. the MLBPA has made sure players aren't being punished further for having been caught "cheating" as you put it.

I am 100% right here, I know you and many others don't like it, but this is baseball in the 21st century. My suggestion, for the love of the game, let it go. Enjoy what happens between the lines. Because no one is getting pay cuts, their will always be ways for someone to gain an advantage and people who will take those advantages.

I want #28, #29 and #30! Everything else are details.
 
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