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Meh. Can't even get the injury correct.

http://www.inhistoric.com/2009/12/6/1187539/th-th-thats-all-folks

If you were still undecided whether or not it was a mistake to draft Greg Oden over Kevin Durant, it's now safe to side with the answer yes. And what a loud yes at that.

On Saturday, I heard news on television that Oden had fractured his patella tendon and got carted off on a stretcher. If you follow sports long enough, you will eventually come to learn that the words "patella tendon" are two of the most toxic and frightening words that can possibly be associated with an injury. Needless to say, Oden is out for the year. He'll need to have surgery on his left knee -- the second such surgery he'll have had in the span of three years.

When Oden was first drafted by the Blazers, people were immediately referencing Sam Bowie -- who the team foolishly drafted ahead of Michael Jordan back in 1984. At first those references were merely people's way of saying that Durant would be the better selection. But now the similarities between Bowie and Oden are becoming jaw-dropping. By most accounts, the Blazers are only one piece away from becoming a contender in the NBA -- in the past they could have used Jordan to get over the top, and in the present there's no telling how good they'd be if Kevin Durant played in place of Martell Webster and Juwan Howard.

Now let's be fair with the Bowie comparisons -- Sam Bowie, by all accounts, was actually a really solid player. But he just couldn't stay healthy and lost whatever potential he initially had after a few short years. And no one who watched Bowie back then is going to tell you that Oden is in any way more skilled offensively than he was. So what does it say that Oden -- with terrible knee injuries in his freshman year in college, freshman year in the NBA, and junior year in the NBA -- will begin his fourth season in the league with only marginal improvements and two microfracture surgeries under his belt?

It means he's done.

Could he make a comeback like Zydrunas Ilgauskas and finish the rest of his career with relatively no health issues? The odds of that are slim, but are possible nonetheless. Could he possibly stay healthy the rest of his career and develop into a star? HELL NO. Greg Oden wasn't drafted for his delicate footwork and gorgeous bank shot -- the Blazers drafted him because he was a 7-foot behemoth who had the body to possibly mimic Shaquille O'Neal or Dwight Howard. But Oden now has more serious knee injuries than Shaq and Howard combined, and he hasn't even developed his offensive game in the slightest. If you think for a second that having a pair of microfracture knee surgeries under his belt isn't going to marginalize his progression down to a crawl, you're nuts.

It's sad, because so much of sports is about blind optimism. But with Oden, it's just impossible to expect him to become a 20-and-10 guy anymore. Look at what knee injuries have done to Jermaine O'Neal and Elton Brand -- and they only had microfracture surgery after they were already superstars. Would I love to believe that Oden can develop into something great in spite of his injury toll? Absolutely. It'd be one of the greatest stories in NBA history. But when you rob a bigman of his legs at such an early stage in his career, and it happens not only once but twice in a matter of years... it's hard to be optimistic.
 
It only matters who wins rings. When Durant is racking them up in Oklahoma City, let me know.
 
Is a naysayer a naysayer if hardly anyone knows who they are?

No doubt. I mean, just who IS Joe Gerrity? ;)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/303748-greg-oden-injury-means-he-is-officially-a-bust

Greg Oden Injury Means He Is Officially a Bust

by Joe Gerrity Correspondent

With Greg Oden's most recent knee injury it's become apparent that he is an injury prone player.

Fans may argue that he's simply unlucky, unfortunate to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, but knee injuries have a tendency to recur and he is showing that his body doesn't withstand them at the level needed to be a successful NBA player.

With the news that he will miss the rest of the season, the former number one pick will now have missed two thirds of all regular season games and all playoff games since being drafted.

Frankly, he doesn't put up fantastic stats even when he's healthy.

Let's look at how he stacks up to another famous Bust, Sam Bowie, through three years in the league.

First off they were both picked before superstars. Although Durant isn't quite there yet, he will be before too long. His scoring stats are a thing of legend already.

Oden: 82/246 games played (33 percent), 23 minutes, 11.1 points on 60 percent shooting, 8.5 rebounds, 2.3 blocks, 4 fouls

Bowie: 119/246 games played (48 percent), 29 minutes, 10.8 points on 51 percent shooting, 8.5 rebounds, 2.6 blocks, 3.7 fouls.

It's pretty clear that these guys are very similar players with a very similar history of knee injuries. Bowie was able to eventually play a few successful years, but his growth was stifled by all the time off the court and he never really developed into the player many thought he would be.

One is labeled the biggest busts in sports history. Given their historical similarities and the quality of players picked after them, it's foolish to continue giving Greg Oden the benefit of the doubt.

If Greg was putting up 20-10 nightly it would be one thing, but he's not. He's merely an average center, who is unable to stay out of foul or injury trouble long enough to be effective even in the limited role that the Blazers give him.
 
Meh. Can't even get the injury correct.

So, Greg is going to have microfracture surgery on his tendon, huh?
Good stuff.

barfo
 
Bleacherreport is the only thing that makes me do this: LOL.

Even worse than Hoopsworld, and that's pretty fucking bad.
 
If you go visiting the sewage treatment plant, don't be surprised to find a few turds floating there.
 
I don't give a shit about these naysayers. Greg will be back.
 
yup. and i recall well that "terrible knee injury" he had his freshman year in college.

Yes he did, but if you recall . . . he was so talented that he could shoot Left Handed Free Throws WITH the bad knee!! It was quite a sight.
 
A lot of bullshit in these articles but there are grains of truth as well.
 
All these articles prove to me is that the internet does not discriminate, and that any idiot with a computer and network connection can embarrass themselves in print.
 
All these articles prove to me is that the internet does not discriminate, and that any idiot with a computer and network connection can embarrass themselves in print.

Did you really need "proof" Nik? We see that in here on a daily basis.
 
You shouldn't have even posted the link.
 
All these articles prove to me is that the internet does not discriminate, and that any idiot with a computer and network connection can embarrass themselves in print.

Quite so. I love the idea of a person who can't even get basic facts right rendering an absolute medical opinion like "It means he's done" and thinking that anyone will take them seriously.

"I don't know how to use Google to do simple research but you must respect my medical opinions."
 
All these articles prove to me is that the internet does not discriminate, and that any idiot with a computer and network connection can embarrass themselves in print.

This is the most appropriate (yet ironic) post I've seen on a Blazer forum in months. It's all of us at some point.
 
If your title is "Oden's injury means he is officially a bust", and the author gets the injury wrong, is not the premise of the entire article now crap?

Seems to me a lot like saying "The President's surge of 30,000 troops into Mexico means he's officially off his rocker and should be impeached". Yeah, there's a fact in there somewhere...
 
If your title is "Oden's injury means he is officially a bust", and the author gets the injury wrong, is not the premise of the entire article now crap?

Seems to me a lot like saying "The President's surge of 30,000 troops into Mexico means he's officially off his rocker and should be impeached". Yeah, there's a fact in there somewhere...

I think you might be on to something here.
 

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