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barfo said:
Ok, it has sunk in that you are so wound up in your hillary hate that you care nothing whatsoever about the actual issue, only about whether it can somehow be pinned on Hillary, no matter how thin the thread.

No, Hillary did not start birtherism.
One of your own links actually pins it on someone in Illinois in 2004.

And she certainly did not make a career out of pushing birtherism, even after the birth certificate was public. That was your boy Trump.

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Yes. Technically it started in 2004.

It wasn't a national issue until Hiliar.

The point is the press acts like it was Trump alone.

It's deplorable that Trump did the things he did. I'm not voting for him for many many reasons. I think he's a racist. I think The Wall is 100% counter to my view of immigration.

That's enough.

Hiliar would be worse.
 
Denny Crane said:
Yes. Technically it started in 2004.

It wasn't a national issue until Hiliar.

The point is the press acts like it was Trump alone.

It's deplorable that Trump did the things he did. I'm not voting for him for many many reasons. I think he's a racist. I think The Wall is 100% counter to my view of immigration.

That's enough.

Hiliar would be worse.
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Hillary isn't even close to worse than Donald Trump status...and I'm not a Hillary supporter...the whole birther issue became a glaring blunder when Trump offered millions for a birth certificate during that Obama campaign. Hillary is status quo in DC dirty laundry and all but she knows the turf....Trump is an outright embarrassment for the nation and lacks every important qualification to be leading anything but a Miss America pageant...and even that is iffy..
 
Denny Crane said:
Yes. Technically it started in 2004.

It wasn't a national issue until Hiliar.

The point is the press acts like it was Trump alone.

It's deplorable that Trump did the things he did. I'm not voting for him for many many reasons. I think he's a racist. I think The Wall is 100% counter to my view of immigration.

That's enough.

Hiliar would be worse.
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Also for what it's worth....Trump started his own private press war and even carried it to the GOP debates...I don't blame the press for him being a blowhard narcissist.
 
riverman said:
Hillary isn't even close to worse than Donald Trump status...and I'm not a Hillary supporter...the whole birther issue became a glaring blunder when Trump offered millions for a birth certificate during that Obama campaign. Hillary is status quo in DC dirty laundry and all but she knows the turf....Trump is an outright embarrassment for the nation and lacks every important qualification to be leading anything but a Miss America pageant...and even that is iffy..
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I don't disagree about Trump.

Hiliar's campaign and dirty tricks used against Obama in '08 is just as important.
 
riverman said:
Also for what it's worth....Trump started his own private press war and even carried it to the GOP debates...I don't blame the press for him being a blowhard narcissist.
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I don't blame the press for that either. But when it's 24/7 Hiliar commercials, it's questionable the press is actually a press.
 
People are mad that Jimmy Fallon "humanized" Trump on a fucking late night talk show.

Maybe Jimmy was supposed to stab him with a sharpened microphone????
 
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