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The Parents need to be held responsible. Whose ever kid takes their guns and kills people, should not be allowed to own guns and should be thrown in prison. That way parents will fucking make sure their nut job kids don't touch those guns. Responsibility and accountability.
 
Chris Craig said:
The Parents need to be held responsible. Whose ever kid takes their guns and kills people, should not be allowed to own guns and should be thrown in prison. That way parents will fucking make sure their nut job kids don't touch those guns. Responsibility and accountability.
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I agree. I dont let my kids near my guns because they havent proven mature enough to learn how to use them.
 
I don't like guns and I don't like kids for the most part. Can't get rid of either I don't think.

Not sure what we're supposed to do. Metal detectors? Some psycho would just shoot up a bus stop instead.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I don't like guns and I don't like kids for the most part. Can't get rid of either I don't think.

Not sure what we're supposed to do. Metal detectors? Some psycho would just shoot up a bus stop instead.
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Here’s my idea
Require that gun owners possess a secure gun cabinet, safe or lock for their guns. Maybe more guns would not get into children’s hands if they were locked up. We don’t even need to enforce the law stringently, but most gun owners are law abiding “at least that’s the claim”. So pass a law that firearms must have a lock available and may not be left unlocked without a legal adult at home. Like seatbelt laws, pass the law and most people will follow it. Fewer guns in kids hands?
 
We need MOAR guns in the hands of good guys to solve this problem.

/GOP
 
Fez Von Savage said:
We need MOAR guns in the hands of good guys to solve this problem.
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If everyone carried a gun, there would be no disputes. This kid settled a dispute. No big deal, that's the plan. Dispute settled.
 
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Here’s my idea
Require that gun owners possess a secure gun cabinet, safe or lock for their guns. Maybe more guns would not get into children’s hands if they were locked up. We don’t even need to enforce the law stringently, but most gun owners are law abiding “at least that’s the claim”. So pass a law that firearms must have a lock available and may not be left unlocked without a legal adult at home. Like seatbelt laws, pass the law and most people will follow it. Fewer guns in kids hands?
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I guess but what are the odds that the few nutty kids that would do such a thing wouldn't stab mom or dad and steal the gun anyway?

I don't think there's any easy answer but a nutjob kid could get a kitchen knife easy enough.

We could pass laws all day but would it really help?
 
It's time to settle this thread the right way.
 
Too much 1st Amendment. Needs a 2nd Amendment solution.
 
The children are the future of America. Any of you terrorists disagree? Alright then. I win.
 
A stinkin 15 year old did this. Obviously, he was entrapped in violence he found in a vid game, movie, or some other media influence or he was just nuts. Here is a case where a gun law really had no effect because this kid acquires and fired at his own. So then, is this a problem with the individual or the influence of his social world? More will be found out.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I guess but what are the odds that the few nutty kids that would do such a thing wouldn't stab mom or dad and steal the gun anyway?

I don't think there's any easy answer but a nutjob kid could get a kitchen knife easy enough.

We could pass laws all day but would it really help?
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My kids dont know combo to my safe. You are right though. If a kid wants to kill someome he can grab a kitchen knife. People always want to attack the symptom. There was less school shootings when schools posted the 10 commandments and whipped a kids ass with a paddle. Just sayin.
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
There was less school shootings when schools posted the 10 commandments and whipped a kids ass with a paddle. Just sayin.
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Infiltrate school with religion and violence. That's how we solve this?
 
The solution is right in front of us. That couple with the 13 kids showed us.

Chain the little bastards up until they reach age 30 or so.

barfo
 
Chris Craig said:
The Parents need to be held responsible. Whose ever kid takes their guns and kills people, should not be allowed to own guns and should be thrown in prison. That way parents will fucking make sure their nut job kids don't touch those guns. Responsibility and accountability.
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But as you know as a dad and with your job, kids can and do act impulsively. You see impulsive behavior more often in adolescents, but some children don’t completely grow out of it. Impulsivity is more than just actions, it can be thoughts and emotions as well. Sometimes parents simply don’t have enough of a read on their children to realize there’s a problem, and are you really going to throw some one in jail because they failed as a parent? At that point I feel like there’s likely already more grief than anyone should have to experience.
 
BonesJones said:
Infiltrate school with religion and violence. That's how we solve this?
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Highly controversial, but I believe he does have a valid point which could speak to the importance of religion to society. It’s a relatively new development that religion has been out of the class room.

Hell even the pledge of allegiance, which is much more recent...I remember stating the pledge of allegiance when I was in school. It’s all liberal arts free choice with very few lessons of discipline in today’s world. Somewhere along the line we redefined what constituted as too much discipline, and now you’d probably be fired if you even joked about whipping your students.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
Highly controversial, but I believe he does have a valid point which could speak to the importance of religion to society. It’s a relatively new development that religion has been out of the class room.

Hell even the pledge of allegiance, which is much more recent...I remember stating the pledge of allegiance when I was in school. It’s all liberal arts free choice with very few lessons of discipline in today’s world. Somewhere along the line we redefined what constituted as too much discipline, and now you’d probably be fired if you even joked about whipping your students.
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Well, in 1962 the Supreme Court decided that public (but not private) schools couldn't lead public prayers in school. That's not recent.

(I know the exact year because...my grandfather told me.)
 
With or without gun laws, not sure you could of prevented this fucker from getting hold of a gun. I don’t know the story so he either bought it off the streets or stole it from his parents. Neither of which have anything to do with gun laws. Once again, the main issue here is mental health. Why aren’t we talking about it? What makes a 15 year old do this? People tend to skip the reasons why somebody would do this and often just say “they’re crazy”. That’s dismissive of the problem. There are serious mental health issues in this country. Unfortunately I don’t think they will ever be addressed. Instead people will blame guns. Which is fine but you would be missing the real issue here wasting your time on that argument
 
Chris Craig said:
The Parents need to be held responsible. Whose ever kid takes their guns and kills people, should not be allowed to own guns and should be thrown in prison. That way parents will fucking make sure their nut job kids don't touch those guns. Responsibility and accountability.
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"Nut job kids" might be the most offensive thing posted in a while. There are children out there who have severe mental disabilities.
 
BonesJones said:
Infiltrate school with religion and violence. That's how we solve this?
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Its not violence. It's correction. Kids need correction. It teaches them there are consequences when you act like a dip shit. They play all these video games full of violence and respawn when they die. They start thinking theres no consequences for mistakes. They get 12th place ribbons for being a fuck up instead of missing out and learning to succeed for good consequences and they never get punished for bad decisions.

I dont get why snowflakes will "punch nazis" that is to say anyone who doesn't stand by their politics, but correcting a child is violence?

Anyways. I dont really have to defend my position. Statistics prove it.
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
Its not violence. It's correction. Kids need correction. It teaches them there are consequences when you act like a dip shit. They play all these video games full of violence and respawn when they die. They start thinking theres no consequences for mistakes. They get 12th place ribbons for being a fuck up instead of missing out and learning to succeed for good consequences and they never get punished for bad decisions.

I dont get why snowflakes will "punch nazis" that is to say anyone who doesn't stand by their politics, but correcting a child is violence?

Anyways. I dont really have to defend my position. Statistics prove it.
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When you do something I don't like, I'll make sure to correct it by punching you in the face.

If you can't teach kids that there are consequences for their actions without hitting them, then you're probably a bad parent.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
Highly controversial, but I believe he does have a valid point which could speak to the importance of religion to society. It’s a relatively new development that religion has been out of the class room.

Hell even the pledge of allegiance, which is much more recent...I remember stating the pledge of allegiance when I was in school. It’s all liberal arts free choice with very few lessons of discipline in today’s world. Somewhere along the line we redefined what constituted as too much discipline, and now you’d probably be fired if you even joked about whipping your students.
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Not a popular opinion, but I hate organized religion. I don't judge people for what they believe in, but when they start to believe that others need to believe what they believe, it irks me.

Therefore, how is religion important to society?
 
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