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wizenheimer said:
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sorry...is that a continuation of a discussion I missed in this thread or what the Blazers are talking to Dame about?
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I believe MM is saying that he heard that the team is trying to convince Dame to expand his list.
 
We can’t trade our best player ever coming off one of his best seasons ever for Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson. I mean this is fucking ridiculous to even consider. I would play hardball till the Feb trade deadline if need be. Morey would sit Dame all season waiting on the right deal. We would be the laughing stock of the league if we made that deal. If Dame was trying to put us in that position I’m at a loss for words.
 
First, this trade will set up Cronin. If he sends Dame to Miami in a bad trade, he will be forgotten. Anyone can do that. He either has to clean Miami to the bones, or send Dame somewhere else now. He could do "fair trade" if the other side wasn't playing dirty.
 
robson said:
First, this trade will set up Cronin. If he sends Dame to Miami in a bad trade, he will be forgotten. Anyone can do that. He either has to clean Miami to the bones, or send Dame somewhere else now. He could do "fair trade" if the other side wasn't playing dirty.
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And let’s be honest…. He’s probably gone whenever Jody finally sells the team so this is his chance to show that he deserves another GM job.
 
wizenheimer said:
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sorry...is that a continuation of a discussion I missed in this thread or what the Blazers are talking to Dame about?
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LOL, yes. The breakingest breaking news of all. Trying to get him to open up a bit more, or at least come out and say it. Blazers want to make him happy, but so far Miami isn’t accommodating. Portland letting Dame and his agent know what they want back.
 
The irony is a bit delicious, in that Riley is kind of in the same spot Cronin was leading up to the draft. He knows what Dame wants (and agrees with him), but can’t get someone to take the things he’s willing to give up in order to make Dame happy. And now has to either overpay (Sharpe and Simons AND #3/all the Miami things plus some) to make Dame happy or decide burning all the ammo on this deal may not be worth it and reevaluate. When Cronin did it he got blasted. Wonder what it’s going to be for Riley? One-team trade requests go both ways. Get it all done, Riley.
 
I think Joe needs to hold firm but I really want to see this resolved before training camp. First off it's a distraction for our young players, vets, coaches, staff, and fans. It sort of hangs over the organization as a dark cloud. Ben Simmons was different as he wasn't the teams best player let alone an all time 76ers great. Simmon's was more similar to ZBo here, yeah a situation that is nice to resolve but nothing historical to the franchise.

Second is the risk Dame gets injured, plays poorly, or a trade partner no longer wishes to add him. If the Heat or other team get out to the East best record they may no longer want to break up their starters to trade for him. Or if they lose a ton they may fear Dame wouldn't make them a contender and they'd be reluctant to give up future picks.

So there is no urgency to get this done in the next few weeks. But there is an urgency to get it resolved in the next few months.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I think Joe needs to hold firm but I really want to see this resolved before training camp. First off it's a distraction for our young players, vets, coaches, staff, and fans. It sort of hangs over the organization as a dark cloud. Ben Simmons was different as he wasn't the teams best player let alone an all time 76ers great. Simmon's was more similar to ZBo here, yeah a situation that is nice to resolve but nothing historical to the franchise.

Second is the risk Dame gets injured, plays poorly, or a trade partner no longer wishes to add him. If the Heat or other team get out to the East best record they may no longer want to break up their starters to trade for him. Or if they lose a ton they may fear Dame wouldn't make them a contender and they'd be reluctant to give up future picks.

So there is no urgency to get this done in the next few weeks. But there is an urgency to get it resolved in the next few months.
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I think it will be resolved well before training camp. Most likely going to be Dame and Nurk out and 3 players and 4 picks in

Just a guess
 
Isn't Joe on the top of everyone with this trade? He's got best player and can wait.
If they want Lillard, make them pay.

You know what I've seen from Heat fans? That Lillard landed us two lottery picks, last two years, as he agreed to sit, so What else do we want?? We should take Herro and fo.
 
robson said:
Isn't Joe on the top of everyone with this trade? He's got best player and can wait.
If they want Lillard, make them pay.

You know what I've seen from Heat fans? That Lillard landed us two lottery picks, last two years, as he agreed to sit, so What else do we want?? We should take Herro and fo.
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Not really on top of everyone. ABSOLUTELY has the best player, but that player completely tied Joe’s hands by

1.saying he wanted out
2. Saying only Miami

Makes Joes job of getting CLOSE to equal value almost impossible
 
Mediocre Man said:
Not really on top of everyone. ABSOLUTELY has the best player, but that player completely tied Joe’s hands by

1.saying he wanted out
2. Saying only Miami

Makes Joes job of getting CLOSE to equal value almost impossible
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Lillard should tweet something like:

"If they don't think you worth sacrifice, don't play for them. They get you cheap, they will treat you cheap."
 
Yeah MIA doesn’t want him enough to give up Bam. If Dame was wemby or Giannis or luka they would…
Just sayin Dame…you ain’t a top 5 and never were.
 
robson said:
Lillard should tweet something like:

"If they don't think you worth sacrifice, don't play for them. They get you cheap, they will treat you cheap."
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I can only assume you wish Dame ill, because that would get him laughed out of the world.
 
If Dame want only Miami, it’s kinda on him and his agent to increase Miami’s offer. Need to be at .50 cents on the dollar when all is said and done
 
Mediocre Man said:
If Dame want only Miami, it’s kinda on him and his agent to increase Miami’s offer. Need to be at .50 cents on the dollar when all is said and done
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I agree and disagree. I agree the pressure is on Goodwin and Riley to find their best offer, not on us. However, I think our return needs to be significantly higher than that. Giving a discount to accommodate Dame is not in our team's best interest, either short- or long-term.
 
I think the math is...we're getting 100 (maybe 115-120?) cents on the dollar, but it's 3 quarters and 4 dimes rather than a buck and 4 nickels.

Or, in the Simmons case, 3 quarters and 4 dimes for Dame, and an extra 3 nickels because I took your chewed-up gum and told you I'd take care of throwing it away.
 
Joe imo is only thinking about wiping the slate clean so he, Chancey & Mike can build through youth. Im sure they had this plan last year when they decided to tank. Joe knows that building with youth is job security. He's probable;y a nice dude and well intentioned, however I think he's very naive in what he thinks he can accomplishe through trades and fa markets. His comfort zone is younger players.
 
Hoopguru said:
Joe imo is only thinking about wiping the slate clean so he, Chancey & Mike can build through youth. Im sure they had this plan last year when they decided to tank. Joe knows that building with youth is job security. He's probable;y a nice dude and well intentioned, however I think he's very naive in what he thinks he can accomplishe through trades and fa markets. His comfort zone is younger players.
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Unless we exceed expectations, I don't see Chauncey lasting another year.
 
The Blazers had Dame sit out games already. What's a few more?

I'm not advocating being petty or mean, but I would like the team to point out to Dame that he needs their help to sign off on a trade and he is not getting any younger. The Blazers aren't responsible for having to take his desires under consideration, but will. Cronin should do what's best for the team, his future anywhere after here might be riding on it. And it's not like Dame is going to be shipped off to the Mongolian league. I'd like them to say something like, we'll get you somewhere you have a chance to win, but we'd rather you sit out, then trade you for peanuts. And is your destination more important than being able to play?

I know this won't happen, but one can dream
 
Mediocre Man said:
I think it will be resolved well before training camp. Most likely going to be Dame and Nurk out and 3 players and 4 picks in

Just a guess
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Worst case that I’d accept if I was Joe to get this over…

Dame/Nurk out

Jaquez/Jovic/Simmons in

2 Mia 1s/2 Brooklyn 1s in

and I wouldnt be pleased.
 
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