Hollinger answers Mixums question!

[PapaG]

OT, but if I'm understanding this correctly, we know when a mod edits a post, but we aren't told when they delete our posts? What's up with that? Sure would have saved me some head scratching if I was told my post was deleted. Who decides what jokes are left in the forum and which are deleted?

Go Blazers

Deleting posts is close to the line between moderating and being on a power trip. Typically, a mod should leave the "post", but edit the content and give an explanation as to why the content was deleted. That way, things just don't disappear, and people aren't as confused, since they can always know who edited it, and PM the mod if they would like a further explanation.

Just a suggestion, though!

 

[Natebishop3]

Deleting posts is close to the line between moderating and being on a power trip. Typically, a mod should leave the "post", but edit the content and give an explanation as to why the content was deleted. That way, things just don't disappear, and people aren't as confused, since they can always know who edited it, and PM the mod if they would like a further explanation.

Just a suggestion, though!

You know what though, there's no way to make people happy in this situation. If I leave the posts alone, people bitch about the forum being all about drama, and that nobody is doing anything to stop the problem. If I edit the posts, it derails the thread because everyone wonders why all these posts were edited, and they want to know what was in the post. If I delete the posts entirely, the people who posted bitch and complain, and the thread gets derailed because everyone wants to know what was said. There's no win here.

With that said, I'm tired of watching every thread that Mixum starts turn into a slap fight. Mixum posts something, someone makes a smartass comment, he responds and claims to be the victim of a bias, and then it just goes down hill from there. What do you guys want? Do you want to talk Blazers basketball or do you want to sit around and gossip like a bunch of old ladies? I've tried every tactic that I know. If I don't edit enough, I'm a terrible mod. If I edit posts, I'm a terrible mod. If I delete posts, I'm a terrible mod. I guess I'm just a terrible mod, eh?

Seriously, I just want people to at least be civil. You don't have to agree with each other, you don't have to like each other, but please just keep things civil.

 

[THE HCP]

Nice post^^^^ REPPED!

 

[PapaG]

You know what though, there's no way to make people happy in this situation. If I leave the posts alone, people bitch about the forum being all about drama, and that nobody is doing anything to stop the problem. If I edit the posts, it derails the thread because everyone wonders why all these posts were edited, and they want to know what was in the post. If I delete the posts entirely, the people who posted bitch and complain, and the thread gets derailed because everyone wants to know what was said. There's no win here.

With that said, I'm tired of watching every thread that Mixum starts turn into a slap fight. Mixum posts something, someone makes a smartass comment, he responds and claims to be the victim of a bias, and then it just goes down hill from there. What do you guys want? Do you want to talk Blazers basketball or do you want to sit around and gossip like a bunch of old ladies?

Gladys, that answer is obvious, dear.

I've tried every tactic that I know. If I don't edit enough, I'm a terrible mod. If I edit posts, I'm a terrible mod. If I delete posts, I'm a terrible mod. I guess I'm just a terrible mod, eh?

It's a thankless task. I've done it before, and it's much better to be just a regular member of a community, IMO.

Seriously, I just want people to at least be civil. You don't have to agree with each other, you don't have to like each other, but please just keep things civil.

Bling blang!

 

[blazerboy30]

You know what though, there's no way to make people happy in this situation. If I leave the posts alone, people bitch about the forum being all about drama, and that nobody is doing anything to stop the problem. If I edit the posts, it derails the thread because everyone wonders why all these posts were edited, and they want to know what was in the post. If I delete the posts entirely, the people who posted bitch and complain, and the thread gets derailed because everyone wants to know what was said. There's no win here.

With that said, I'm tired of watching every thread that Mixum starts turn into a slap fight. Mixum posts something, someone makes a smartass comment, he responds and claims to be the victim of a bias, and then it just goes down hill from there. What do you guys want? Do you want to talk Blazers basketball or do you want to sit around and gossip like a bunch of old ladies? I've tried every tactic that I know. If I don't edit enough, I'm a terrible mod. If I edit posts, I'm a terrible mod. If I delete posts, I'm a terrible mod. I guess I'm just a terrible mod, eh?

Seriously, I just want people to at least be civil. You don't have to agree with each other, you don't have to like each other, but please just keep things civil.

IMO, the problems get a lot easier if obvious trolling is just dealt with. Everything you just described only happens after the obvious trolling has already taken place.

 

[Rodolfo]

swear to god. saw he was doing a chat from twitter. so i asked him a question and boom.

THis is amazing news. In other news the sun is out today.

 

[Rodolfo]

You know what though, there's no way to make people happy in this situation. If I leave the posts alone, people bitch about the forum being all about drama, and that nobody is doing anything to stop the problem. If I edit the posts, it derails the thread because everyone wonders why all these posts were edited, and they want to know what was in the post. If I delete the posts entirely, the people who posted bitch and complain, and the thread gets derailed because everyone wants to know what was said. There's no win here.

With that said, I'm tired of watching every thread that Mixum starts turn into a slap fight. Mixum posts something, someone makes a smartass comment, he responds and claims to be the victim of a bias, and then it just goes down hill from there. What do you guys want? Do you want to talk Blazers basketball or do you want to sit around and gossip like a bunch of old ladies? I've tried every tactic that I know. If I don't edit enough, I'm a terrible mod. If I edit posts, I'm a terrible mod. If I delete posts, I'm a terrible mod. I guess I'm just a terrible mod, eh?

Seriously, I just want people to at least be civil. You don't have to agree with each other, you don't have to like each other, but please just keep things civil.

It's hard not to give hypocrites shit. They deserve it.

 

[MIXUM]

To recap after this thread has now been derailed, I asked hollinger a few questions during his chat today.

1. He says he thinks we make playoffs unless we trade and get future assets back.

2. Thinks we can get 6th seed and that denver/Utah could fall out with trades. Graze and rockets get in.

3. Devin Harris is the guy who blazers want to replace miller. Will need a 3rd team to get it done. I think nets have to make melo deal for this tonhave a chance.

4. If not Harris, we will get a real bottom of barrel type player like Jeff Teague from Atlanta.

5. Andre miller most likely to be traded while camby/pryz unlikely. nothing certain though.

 

[jlprk]

Ridnour was mediocre as a Sonic. McMillan wouldn't want to coach him again.

If I don't edit enough, I'm a terrible mod. If I edit posts, I'm a terrible mod. If I delete posts, I'm a terrible mod. I guess I'm just a terrible mod, eh?

You have learned the cycle of life, grasshopper. Now dry clean my shirt. Hurry hurry chop chop.

 

[mgb]

OT, but if I'm understanding this correctly, we know when a mod edits a post, but we aren't told when they delete our posts? What's up with that? Sure would have saved me some head scratching if I was told my post was deleted. Who decides what jokes are left in the forum and which are deleted?

Go Blazers

Normally if a post has nothing but off subject to thread or insults in it then it's deleted, which it can be soft so other mods see it or hard so there is no sign of it to anyone, but if the post has part off subject/insult and part that is about the thread and not insult then a mod normally just edits out the 'bad' part and leaves a explanation.

 

[Wheels]

Deleting posts is close to the line between moderating and being on a power trip. Typically, a mod should leave the "post", but edit the content and give an explanation as to why the content was deleted. That way, things just don't disappear, and people aren't as confused, since they can always know who edited it, and PM the mod if they would like a further explanation.

Just a suggestion, though!

I maybe a little late to this party.. was in a meeting all day. And didnt read the responses below this yet. But my deal with deleting posts, is people would constantly break rules, and attack people and so forth, and still get there message across. There was literally no ramifications for continuing to break rules. If you delete the whole post it shows that if you waste your time to type out a personal attack, then you wasted your time trying to get the message you wanted, out. If someone doesnt break the rules, their message will get across just fine. Just my opinion.

 

[jlprk]

mgb answers oldguy's question!

 

[THE HCP]

I maybe a little late to this party.. was in a meeting all day. And didnt read the responses below this yet. But my deal with deleting posts, is people would constantly break rules, and attack people and so forth, and still get there message across. There was literally no ramifications for continuing to break rules. If you delete the whole post it shows that if you waste your time to type out a personal attack, then you wasted your time trying to get the message you wanted, out. If someone doesnt break the rules, their message will get across just fine. Just my opinion.

I agree, BUT this is all I typed......


It was the third post in this thread and I typed "It's all down hill from here"

Then around the 10th post after MIXUM cried about ^That^ post I did a smiley face That's it!

 

[Ed O]

I agree, BUT this is all I typed......

It was the third post in this thread and I typed "It's all down hill from here"

Then around the 10th post after MIXUM cried about ^That^ post I did a smiley face That's it!

You were not commenting on the topic. You were commenting on the poster. I don't think it's that complicated, man.

Stop commenting on MIXUM. Either comment on what he posts or don't comment on his posts at all.

We're tired of people derailing threads and devolving them into pissing matches when there is basketball to be discussed.

Ed O.

 

[Wheels]

I agree, BUT this is all I typed......


It was the third post in this thread and I typed "It's all down hill from here"

Then around the 10th post after MIXUM cried about ^That^ post I did a smiley face That's it!

I actually wasnt referring to your post and hadnt seen it, my post was more of and all encompassing post to why I personally (would) just do the deleting of the whole post, but this one here isnt my forum, so I dont edit much in here, unless stuff stays for a long time that probably should be edited.

 

[PapaG]

It seems as if half of this board is some sort of S2 moderator right now. Global mod, normal mod, Admin, Producer, Jester, etc. I can't keep it all straight. Now that posts are literally being erased, and not just edited, things are a bit on edge.

Once the mod civil war starts regarding how to mod, things will get interesting.

Probably is time to start scouting for a back-up plan, fellow underlings.

This never ends well.

 

[Wheels]

Once the mod civil war starts regarding how to mod, things will get interesting.

how do you know it hasnt been going on for a while?

 

[MIXUM]

i think this place is in a lot of trouble

 

[Wheels]

and the solution is oh so simple

 

[Natebishop3]

It seems as if half of this board is some sort of S2 moderator right now. Global mod, normal mod, Admin, Producer, Jester, etc. I can't keep it all straight. Now that posts are literally being erased, and not just edited, things are a bit on edge.

Once the mod civil war starts regarding how to mod, things will get interesting.

Probably is time to start scouting for a back-up plan, fellow underlings.

This never ends well.

Tell you what, you go on ahead to the new site, and we'll be right along in a jiff. Don't call us, we'll call you!

 

[jlprk]

It seems as if half of this board is some sort of S2 moderator right now. Global mod, normal mod, Admin, Producer, Jester, etc. I can't keep it all straight.

The solution is more moderators. They multiply like rabbits. Two of them are probably in the back room right now, making muskrat love.

You could pick them out easily before, but now they fade into the woodwork, because of the black bar that says all-star. You can't tell who's who at a glance.

Who is this jester of whom you jest? Barfo quit.

 

[Ed O]

People have been talking about leaving here since the first time someone was edited here. People have talked about people leaving since the first person stopped posting.

I don't think that any moderator here has an axe to grind with anyone, and we certainly don't want to drive anyone away. We just want to keep it to basketball and/or lighthearted stuff and stop the heavy back-and-forth that happens on a daily basis that has nothing to do with basketball opinion.

Ed O.

 

[MIXUM]

Let's get this thread backnon track!!!

 

[THE HCP]

Let's get this thread backnon track!!!

.......................................

 

[PapaG]

Tell you what, you go on ahead to the new site, and we'll be right along in a jiff. Don't call us, we'll call you!

OK Hap, I hear you loud and clear!

 

[PapaG]

People have been talking about leaving here since the first time someone was edited here. People have talked about people leaving since the first person stopped posting.

I don't think that any moderator here has an axe to grind with anyone, and we certainly don't want to drive anyone away. We just want to keep it to basketball and/or lighthearted stuff and stop the heavy back-and-forth that happens on a daily basis that has nothing to do with basketball opinion.

Ed O.

This board had it right with you and Minstrel as mods. barfo finally cracked, which was long overdue, since he is basically a pun machine, and the newbies seem to be not up to the task, outside of SlyPokerDog, who at least is trying. I understand that you and Minstrel can't be here at all times, though, and Minstrel finally decided to just fade back into the shadows.

I say we need more TomBoerwinkle. We'll be the bestest evah!

 

[MickZagger]

*Edited*

 

[PapaG]

*edited*

Really though, mods. Is this type of shit what you want this board to be about? There are only about 32 of you, and nobody does anything, so I assume this is what you're aiming for as a Blazer forum?

 

[MickZagger]

Really though, mods. Is this type of shit what you want this board to be about? There are only about 32 of you, and nobody does anything, so I assume this is what you're aiming for as a Blazer forum?

*edited*

 

[maxiep]

My $0.02: Everyone should just lighten up. People can only piss you off if you let them.