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PtldPlatypus said:
Like the old song--not as good as he once was, but as good once as he ever was.
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I honestly do not get this narrative at all. Dude is 29 and putting up comparable numbers (actually better than last year). His rebounds are a little down? Percentages are a little down? Overall minutes are down though. His role is much different. He is being asked to do different things. Obviously without Curry and Klay his assists have dropped a little (About 1.4 a game).
It's like people are saying he is washed up? Some people like to use Per 36 and then he looks like he is doing better. I don't like using stats at all. I have watched the guy 6 games this year. Nothing about what i have seen has him dropping off.
 
Blazers Roy said:
Again, you keep talking about outcomes while i ask you to dig a little deeper.
We're not taking the solid way to beat other teams, Stotts can't identify a momentum turn to save his life, he's doing weird subs and lineups, players are making the same mistakes over and over and over in a game.

Teams fired Rick Carlisle (DET),Dwayne Casey (as COY), D'Antoni (the genius of Nash' Suns) etc, but it would be a horrible mistake to fire this guy? what kind of black magic does he perform on some of you people?
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Respect your opinion, but saying "identify momentum" or "weird subs" along with players making the same mistakes over and over (nearly all player do this) are things nearly every fan base says about their coach.

The momentum argument is a great example of this. People use the term momentum to explain why series of events have happened after the fact. I would challenge you or anyone who is a strong believer of momentum to post immediately after you thing a play that will trigger momentum has occured, then see/track the results of the next handful of possessions. Over a large sample, you might be surprised at the outcome.

Same goes with "weird subs". Does that mean you don't understand his subs? Is there any data that backs up Portland does worse after he subs vs other teams when they sub? If I said Stotts made "amazing subs" (which I don't think either), I'm guessing me telling you to "dig deeper" would not be enough to convince you.

Using data to back up your points or creating criteria before things happen would actually be digging deeper. Just because I don't buy into a story based narrative doesn't mean I'm not digging deeper.
 
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PtldPlatypus said:
Like the old song--not as good as he once was, but as good once as he ever was.
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Green is the type of player that is more effective when he is playing with quality players. Not many players can carry a team that is comprised of mostly middle and end of the bench type players.
 
Tince said:
Respect your opinion, but saying "identify momentum" or "weird subs" along with players making the same mistakes over and over (nearly all player do this) are things nearly every fan base says about their coach.

The momentum argument is a great example of this. People use the term momentum to explain why series of events have happened after the fact. I would challenge you or anyone who is a strong believer of momentum to post immediately after you thing a play that will trigger momentum has occured, then see track the results of the next handful of possessions. Over a large sample, you might be surprised at the outcome.

Same goes with "weird subs". Does that mean you don't understand his subs? Is there any data that backs up Portland does worse after he subs vs other teams when they sub? If I said Stotts made "amazing subs" (which I don't think either), I'm guessing me telling you to "dig deeper" would not be enough to convince you.

Using data to back up your points or creating criteria before things happen would actually be digging deeper. Just because I don't buy into a story based narrative doesn't mean I'm not digging deeper.
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Yeah i agree. Asking someone to "Dig a little deeper" and talking about "Weird Subs" or "Momentum swings" in a game that is pretty much based on runs and adjustments is a tough way to go. A player not feeling well (Simple strain, indigestion) or dealing with personal issues (Girlfriend or wife and kids) could have dramatic effect on any game.
 
Terry Stotts said:
I'm pretty flattered that in a conversation meant to question my abilities I keep getting compared to Steve Kerr. Tells me that I'm doing very well for myself and my players. Thanks for the confidence boost everyone!
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KSF-ERIC said:
Exactly. Stotts will win a championship in Portland and will be considered the GOAT coach. Dame has already stated that it will happen in their 11th in year so get pumped for 2023. There will be streets named after both of them.
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KSF-ERIC said:
Honest question: How many current coaches have won three separate playoff series without having home court advantage? Stotts did it in 2014 vs Rockets, 2016 vs Clippers, and 2019 vs Nuggets.
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That's a nitoicky measurement. How many coaches have been swept with HCA?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
You put CJ on those GS teams instead of Draymond I think GS are a much worse team...
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Well, mainly for the reason that would leave GS without a starting caliber pf and it would leave us without a dependable starting shooting guard.
 
BonesJones said:
One game...?

Thats the flipside of this Stotts debate. I'm more positive in regards to our roster.
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One Game? He played last night like he has for the last 5 years?
How is that one game?
I guess I just don’t see the decline?
 
BonesJones said:
Compare his stats in 2014-2015 to now.
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Yeah i get it.
The last 5 years don't really mean much.
Look i'm just saying 29 is considered prime and he is playing well this year. Better than last years numbers and his role has changed.
I would be really happy to have him on the Blazers if that was even a possibility.
If you were really gonna go back and look at past years you would be better to look at 2015 and 2016.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greendr01.html
 
Strenuus said:
I saw the decline at the blazers game. ;)
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again, a one game sample? People would probably think Lillard was in decline if they watched the last game against the Pelicans. You also have to consider what he is playing with right now as Lillard would be struggling if his major minute players were Simons, Hezonja, Tolliver and Skal. What I find funny is how many people want Iggy here and he is definitely in decline and then say no to Green because he is in decline. Green isn't the type of player that can carry a team, but he is a solid addition to a playoff level team.

:dunno:
 
e_blazer said:
Honest question for everyone: Does it matter what anyone here thinks about Terry Stotts? Near as I can tell, he has the job until Neil Olshey says differently.
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Of course not, but were just talking about the Blazers and our coach, isnt that kind of what were supposed to be doing?

Id venture to guess even his staunchest “haters” want them to win.
 
e_blazer said:
Honest question for everyone: Does it matter what anyone here thinks about Terry Stotts? Near as I can tell, he has the job until Neil Olshey says differently.
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If the only things we could talk about on a message board were things we controlled within the organization, this would be a quiet place.
 
e_blazer said:
Honest question for everyone: Does it matter what anyone here thinks about Terry Stotts? Near as I can tell, he has the job until Neil Olshey says differently.
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Yep, I have said that many times and why I don't worry about it as I have no say in the matter just like everyone else in the forum.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Of course not, but were just talking about the Blazers and our coach, isnt that kind of what were supposed to be doing?

Id venture to guess even his staunchest “haters” want them to win.
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Oh, I know all of that. I just don’t quite get all of the emotions some folks have about something we have no input on.
 
Tince said:
If the only things we could talk about on a message board were things we controlled within the organization, this would be a quiet place.
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Sure, but given the state of the roster right now, worrying about the coach seems to me kind of like asking for a new captain after the Titanic has hit the iceberg.
 
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