Honest question for Stotts supporters

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Users who are viewing this thread

You say it's spin that Portland could have a talented enough roster to win a championship
At what time in the last 6 years has Portland had the talent to win a Championship? Seriously now. If you think that is a spin then again i don't know what to tell you.
 
Well i'm gonna have to agree to disagree with you.
Everyone knew Curry was the real deal. I also know everyone was calling Green a huge pickup for second rounder and most call it lucky. How many times have not only you but pretty much everyone on the board complained about missing him?
Meyers Leonard #11 pick they say... Could of had Draymond they say....
I have been very consistent in saying that the Leonard pick was fine based on who else was available. It's completely unrealistic to say that he should've been picked 11th when he went in the 2nd round so no I don't say that. Of course if we were redrafting he'd go higher but then we wouldn't have Dame sooooooo yeah. Green becoming a good player and being an immediate game changer is not the same thing. You're the only one contradicting yourself here.

And if everyone knew Curry was the real deal why did he go 7th behind guys like Johnny Flynn and Ricky Rubio?
 
I think Rick Adelman's son David (currently an assistant with the Nuggets) will be a good head coach someday. Would like to see him here as an assistant and then take over for Stotts.
 
Golden State was a nice story in 2012-13 when they upset Denver in the first round and then played the Spurs tough in the 2nd round.

This is what i'm talking about. I'm what universe is that not a team on the rise and becoming a contender when they just added Green and have a big three in place? Blazers where there last year and Nurk went down. If the Warriors had lost one of those players at the end of that season and pieced together a playoff run where would they have been in 2013-14? Now lets say at the beginning of 2013-14 they lost another player. Then 20 games in they lost another?
Here we are where the Blazers sit right now.
 
At what time in the last 6 years has Portland had the talent to win a Championship? Seriously now. If you think that is a spin then again i don't know what to tell you.
You're saying this while also saying it's contradictory to say that making the playoffs isn't contending. Do you realize how stupid these posts look?

Portland has accomplished way more than GS had when they fired Jackson. That's a fact.
 
What in the fuck are you actually talking about? The only one who needs to read it is you obviously. I don't get what you aren't understanding.
It's very obvious you don't get it. Your narrative is so ingrained that you have lost objectivity.
 
You're saying this while also saying it's contradictory to say that making the playoffs isn't contending. Do you realize how stupid these posts look?

Portland has accomplished way more than GS had when they fired Jackson. That's a fact.
Never disagreed with that. the point is Kerr inherited a very good team. That is and was always the point. You are trying to say he didn't.
 
This is what i'm talking about. I'm what universe is that not a team on the rise and becoming a contender when they just added Green and have a big three in place? Blazers where there last year and Nurk went down. If the Warriors had lost one of those players at the end of that season and pieced together a playoff run where would they have been in 2013-14? Now lets say at the beginning of 2013-14 they lost another player. Then 20 games in they lost another?
Here we are where the Blazers sit right now.
Your posts are so all over the place and don't make any sense. I'm sorry I really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt here but it's just mumbled thoughts accusing me of saying something I didn't.

The Warriors lost in the 1st round and then hired Kerr. They had Green, Thompson, and Curry together for the two seasons prior. Show me one person that thought before 2014 they were a title contender?
 
@hoopsjock you can cuss and write in bold all day. but you are wrong here. The situation between Portland and what GS did is vastly different. You can try to spin it however you want but it ain't gonna change. Your original statement asking "How is that different from Portland speaks volumes.
 
Never disagreed with that. the point is Kerr inherited a very good team. That is and was always the point. You are trying to say he didn't.
What? I said that no one considered them title contenders (which is 100% true). They were obviously good enough to make the playoffs (much like Portland) but not a contender (much like you are claiming with Portland).
 
Never disagreed with that. the point is Kerr inherited a very good team. That is and was always the point. You are trying to say he didn't.
My point would actually be does it matter, I was the one who brought up Kerr, but saying well Kerr isnt actually a good coach isnt much of an argument for keeping Stotts. Though I dont think Stotts is in any Danger of losing his job after their run last year. My point was you dont know if there are better coaches unless you go look.
 
Your posts are so all over the place and don't make any sense. I'm sorry I really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt here but it's just mumbled thoughts accusing me of saying something I didn't.

The Warriors lost in the 1st round and then hired Kerr. They had Green, Thompson, and Curry together for the two seasons prior. Show me one person that thought before 2014 they were a title contender?
They make sense just fine bro. You cannot throw a bunch of shade on it by muddying the waters and changing narratives. You want to spin it to your liking and it's wrong.
 
@hoopsjock you can cuss and write in bold all day. but you are wrong here. The situation between Portland and what GS did is vastly different. You can try to spin it however you want but it ain't gonna change. Your original statement asking "How is that different from Portland speaks volumes.
Sorry but you have yourself completely confused and have no clue what you are even arguing.
 
What? I said that no one considered them title contenders (which is 100% true). They were obviously good enough to make the playoffs (much like Portland) but not a contender (much like you are claiming with Portland).
Again that is not only what you said. It also is not true. They were obviously beginning to be contenders. Here is the rankings. Spurs just won it all but here is GS at #5
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/10/27/7071775/nba-power-rankings-2014-san-antonio-spurs
 
They make sense just fine bro. You cannot throw a bunch of shade on it by muddying the waters and changing narratives. You want to spin it to your liking and it's wrong.
I don't have a narrative! Seriously stop KJ, you've been trying to turn this into something it's not and I don't understand why.
 
Now after looking at that link do you still want to say they were not contenders? Really?
 
My point would actually be does it matter, I was the one who brought up Kerr, but saying well Kerr isnt actually a good coach isnt much of an argument for keeping Stotts. Though I dont think Stotts is in any Danger of losing his job after their run last year. My point was you dont know if there are better coaches unless you go look.
It doesn't matter but trying to compare them is wrong. Kerr has always been in a great situation. Everyone except those who want to try and tear down Stotts knows this.
 
I don't have a narrative! Seriously stop KJ
Yes you do. This thread is about coach Stotts. You do everything you can to say Stotts is a bad coach. He has never had what Kerr has had. So don't even go there anymore. The year he took over they were already on their way to becoming a Championship contender. Most everyone knew this.
 
Now after looking at that link do you still want to say they were not contenders? Really?
Oh wow, you know what?

A power ranking where some guy had them 5th and said they could take the "next step" is definitely proof that they were going to win it all! Good job! You are right and I am wrong. I bow down to your greatness at winning an argument that you made up in your own head.
 
It doesn't matter but trying to compare them is wrong. Kerr has always been in a great situation. Everyone except those who want to try and tear down Stotts knows this.
What coach won in bad situations? Including Stotts. Its not so much tearing down Stotts IMO, but I kind of view him like I view Jackson, a good coach, he knows more about basketball then any of us, but I dont believe he’s a championship level coach, I just dont.

My larger point though, was contending that, “no one out there is better”, of course the Blazers could fire Stotts go do a search and end up with worse, but they could also fire Stotts go do a search and find someone better.

Kerr maybe sucks now, I dont know. Pops hasnt done anything special since Tim Duncan, Phil wasnt all that without Kobe, Shaq, Jordan and Pippen. Theres a good conversation to be had about how much coaching matters too if the talent isnt there.
 
For every team that fired a coach of the year and went on to win a ring.
You have a team that fired a coach of the year and hit the lotto for years until they got super deep and started making noise.
One of those is actually considered a WC contender rn. As they were last year.
 
Yes you do. This thread is about coach Stotts. You do everything you can to say Stotts is a bad coach. He has never had what Kerr has had. So don't even go there anymore. The year he took over they were already on their way to becoming a Championship contender. Most everyone knew this.
This is some massive piles of bullshit KJ. Not once in this thread did I bash Stotts or post a narrative about Stotts level of coaching, so any inference to that is solely on you buddy.

We were talking about other situations as to not firing a coach without having a good replacement.
 
Oh wow, you know what?

A power ranking where some guy had them 5th and said they could take the "next step" is definitely proof that they were going to win it all! Good job! You are right and I am wrong. I bow down to your greatness at winning an argument that you made up in your own head.
That is an SB Nation pre-season Power Rankings. You are trying to say that is "Some Guy". Okay. ESPN has them 4th in the Western Conference. Now understand this is also the last year with Aldridge and the Blazers were 5th....
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story?_slug_=power-rankings&id=11670109&redirected=true

At what point are we allowed to call a team good?
 
Back
Top