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Natebishop3 said:
There's just really not any money. I think maybe we could sign Hood for the MLE, but Kanter is gone for sure and I'm not sure about Curry.
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We need to attach our first round pick to ML and move him at the draft. I think we need to try and bring back Chief and Curry, even if Chief eventually comes off the bench. I’d like Hood and Kanter back too, but to a much lesser extent.
 
Curry is fantastic - but he is going to get more money elsewhere - and Simons can hopefully fill that void.

Kanter is good as well, likely to command more than the MLE and the Blazers do have ZC and SL to hold the fort until Nurk comes back - so if you can sign Hood to the MLE, you do that, imho.
 
LayneStaley said:
This reminds me of 2016 when everyone wanted to keep our overachieving team together and we overpaid for Moe and Nards. I think Curry is the priority, having 3 guards who drain 3s is game changing. I think Skal/Zach/Cheap FA can hold down the fort at Center for 3/4 of a season until Nurk comes back so I wouldn’t overpay for Kanter, even if we could. Hood is streaky but seems to be a good teammate, I wouldn’t mind him back but I don’t think it would be impossible to replace him either.
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It's nothing like the summer of 2016. That summer we overpayed because we had the cap to do so. This summer it's either take a ridiculously small contract or they're gone (except with Aminu and Layman) so if they re-signed it would be for bargains not overpays.
 
I saw a list the other day of free agent bigs this off season and was blown away....bigs are going to scramble for jobs...Kanter may very well take less on a one year deal to let the market settle down and get a big deal later..or 2 year with player option.Rolo Ed and Antonio Davis Cousins and on and on...there are a lot of bigs that might move. Meyers is gaining trade value...I think Curry should play for the Hornets down the road...he's all about NC...I keep Kanter and Hood and let Simons take Seth's role
 
Blazers Roy said:
Would you trade Turner+ our 1st to a salary dump team? if it means we can keep those 3 then we should do it.
(I didn't check if it's realistic or not in terms of numbers).
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problems though

the first is that the draft is 2 weeks ahead of when teams would have cap-space and a team would have to already be giving up on their cap-space to agree to a trade. So that makes it a long shot

the 2nd problem would be finding a team that would have enough space to be willing to give just a TPE back to Portland...no returning salary. That makes it an even longer long shot

but in this fantasy, lets say it happens. Portland is now at 108M in salary for 9 players. 112M with roster charges. Salary cap is 109M. Hood's cap-hold is 6.6M and Seth's is 3.4M. Aminu's is 13.2M. Aminu's cap-hold alone bumps Portland to 125M. The full-MLE bumps to 134M, only 4M below where Portland would be hard-capped if they use the full-MLE.

But sign Aminu for say what? 8M...10M? Split the difference at 9M, eliminate a roster charge and the Blazers are at 117M...119M including 2 roster charges because they only have 10 players. Use the full MLE (either Curry or Kanter) and they are at 126M for 11 players. Maybe a million or two less if they don't use the full MLE. Re-sign Hood for his non-Bird and they are around 130M...12 players. A couple of vet minimums and they'd only be busting the tax line by a couple of million with a little margin below the apron...but they'd be hard-capped and that could restrict flexibility at the worst time

and none of this accounts for Layman

but all that assumes no salary coming back and I really doubt Portland can dump Turner without salary coming back. Maybe Meyers but then the numbers don't work for a full-MLE

I think it's pretty clear one of Kanter/Curry will be gone. I know why people want Curry, but to me, the thought of Meyers/Zack/Skal being the C-PF rotation until Nurkic returns is almost laughable.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Curry didnt look good at first either. Keep in mind one guy has had 82 games to figure the team out. Another has had 30 something games.
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Also keep in mind that Curry was coming back from injury - so his early season stuggles were completely understandable.

Situations are not necessarily comparable.
 
I don't see how we keep Seth Curry. Charlotte Hornets are desperate for a Curry (they are losing Kemba). They will offer him the moon and the stars. I honestly believe Curry can be replaced. Worst case scenario, we let Anfernee grow into the position over an 82 game next season. Can Trent play the Rodney Hood role?
If we lose Kanter, we will need to figure out a different way to play our bigs... until next year February, when some desperate players will be available again.
ESPN says, we will offer Dame the super max. How will that impact our cap situation?
 
Zach’s a 4/5 right now. I agree he’s not ready to be a full time 5 yet. Give him 2-3 years and then maybe. I love having Nurk and Kanter healthy too. They were killing it before Nurk got hurt.
 
I still think we might get Kanter more reasonably than we think.

First, his market might not be as big as people think. He's not worth quite as much in the Eastern Conference where he can't play games in Toronto.

Second, his personal history could make a smooth situation more valuable than money, of which he already has a lot.

Third, he's got at least a half year in Portland to start on what should be a contending team. He could sign for just a year and create a bigger opportunity for himself the following offseason.

Of course, the agents and the players union are going to try to push guys like Hood and Kanter to more lucrative contracts, but I think they might be open to staying Blazers on team-friendly terms because they know what it's like to be in bad situations. And, if you can see guys giving team discounts to chase rings, I don't think it's out of the question to see guys starting to give team discounts to play in a place with quite possibly the most stable locker room in the NBA, especially for a very competitive team.

Curry is the one I think will be toughest to keep. And probably the most important, the way his role on this team has emerged. He could probably start on a team that will be somewhere between a sixth seed and the bottom of the lottery and get paid well to do that. I don't think he's a starter on a team better than that. He's actually being played in pretty much an ideal role here, too. Don't know if that will be enough to sell him on, though, when maybe a team like the Lakers could offer him so much more money.
 
Let's say we keep none of them. We have Dame CJ Moe, likely Chief. Probably start Meyers until Nurk returns. Simons Trent Turner Layman Collins Skal on the bench. A draft pick. That's 13 counting Nurk.

Looking at that, assuming no trades, what is the biggest need (positionally, skillwise, other) that should be pursued with the MLE?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Let's say we keep none of them. We have Dame CJ Moe, maybe Chief. Probably start Meyers until Nurk returns. Simons Trent Turner Layman Collins Skal on the bench. A draft pick. That's 13 counting Nurk.

Looking at that, assuming no trades, what is the biggest need (positionally, skillwise, other) that should be pursued with the MLE?
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I think you need a shooter and a physical big.
 
So I guess it would boil down to how well Simons and Trent developed in the offseason. Do they think either of them would be ready to fill Curry's shoes? Because I think he becomes the biggest spot to fill.

If they do, you go for a big. But I am not sure either Simons or Trent are able to step in for Curry next season. I think it's at least another year they need to cook.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Let's say we keep none of them. We have Dame CJ Moe, likely Chief. Probably start Meyers until Nurk returns. Simons Trent Turner Layman Collins Skal on the bench. A draft pick. That's 13 counting Nurk.

Looking at that, assuming no trades, what is the biggest need (positionally, skillwise, other) that should be pursued with the MLE?
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Well a vet big would be nice like a RoLo or someone like that, just in case Nurk is out awhile.

A scoring wing would still be a need.

A true backup PG would be nice too.
 
I still don't think we lose all three of Curry, Kanter and Hood, though.

Look. You have to market what you have. Portland offers a really good place to live and have a family. It offers one of the most supportive fan bases in the NBA. It offers a contending team, a team that by next year should have proven it can win regardless of what people might think of the composition on paper.

One year? Could be a fluke. Two straight years of being the third seed in the West. Nah. That opens people's eyes. Especially when the Blazers weren't even supposed to be in the playoffs this year according to the pundits.

Biggest selling point: We have without a doubt the best leader in the NBA in Dame. Possibly one of the best leaders in the history of the league. His value outpaces his numbers, as good as those are.

As long as he is with the Blazers, the chemistry will be strong.

And the upheavals we've seen all over the NBA the last two years, with the Kawhi stuff in San Antonio, LeBron, AD, Kyrie and the weirdness in Golden State, all of that plays to our advantage. These guys are millionaires many times over, even if they are coming off the bench. I think more of them are seeing this stuff around the league and thinking "I have everything already. I can do without the nonsense."
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Let's say we keep none of them. We have Dame CJ Moe, likely Chief. Probably start Meyers until Nurk returns. Simons Trent Turner Layman Collins Skal on the bench. A draft pick. That's 13 counting Nurk.

Looking at that, assuming no trades, what is the biggest need (positionally, skillwise, other) that should be pursued with the MLE?
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I think the ones everyone will go to is a wing or a big, but they either need Simons to become a legit back up PG (and actually get minutes) or someone else that can play the creator role. Turner just can't shoot good enough for that role in my opinion.
 
Im not sure who may stay or if any of Hood/Curry/Kanter will stay, but it is going to suck to not at least retain 1. The reason for our success this year is without a doubt because of our bench, which has been a sore spot for years. Im not sure what we will look like come next season as far as bench goes and the fact Nurk will miss probably at least half the season, maybe more. Hopefully Olshey can figure it out.
 
hoopsjock said:
Well a vet big would be nice like a RoLo or someone like that, just in case Nurk is out awhile.

A scoring wing would still be a need.

A true backup PG would be nice too.
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There's only so many roster spots though. Assuming we use our pick and keep Chief and Jake, we'd only have two slots. I'm not counting on the pick to fill any needs. So you'll have to prioritize.

So the question is, if the MLE is only enough to get one player to fill one need, with the roster laid out, what's your priority?
 
the thing is I could see Seth going to the Clippers next year, I like hood and feel he needs better minutes. He was rock solid when CJ was out and works well with Dame, maybe better than he does with Seth or ET
 
fucking 76ers get booed by their fans...never would happen here
 
Cugel said:
fucking 76ers get booed by their fans...never would happen here
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They deserve it...they tanked for most of a decade for draft picks...that building was a ghost town for a long time after Iggy
 
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