Hood: This is a Place I Want to Stay

[blue9]

Isnt being timely being good at defense?

Who cares about effort if its a wiff?

Id rather have a guy who uses less effort but is timely with his movements, than someone who puts their all into it and wiffs on plays.

Hey - you're talking to the guy who has never been impressed by Aminu's "effort" - I'm all about "work smarter, not harder". But to answer your first question: no, just getting a few steals doesn't make someone a good defender.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Hey - you're talking to the guy who has never been impressed by Aminu's "effort" - I'm all about "work smarter, not harder". But to answer your first question: no, just getting a few steals doesn't make someone a good defender.

Fair enough,l though I think he moves his feet pretty well and holds his own for the most part. Combine that with his good timing and I dont see him much of a detriment on D and he is lights out on shooting.

To me he is a keeper for this team.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Seth is extremely good at shooting wide open 3's. Two of his last 3 years he has shot 45 % (the other year being 42,5%) So he will get paid by someone. I just have no idea how much that will be. I think I would roll the dice with Simons next year for that particular roll and use the MLE on someone else.

Kanter has his negatives but I think he is a bigger priority with our Nurk issue.

Hood is a nice versatile piece to have on the bench, but he would have to come cheap.

I still want a true PG to back up Dame. (Maybe an older vet that is a friend of Dame's who does not need big minutes)

 

[milona]

Curry is valuable. I buy that in isolation.
Hood is a starting quality guy who can play multiple position. Again, I buy it.
Kanter is an elite offensive player.

GREAT! THEN WHY IS OUR BENCH +/- SO BAD????

It's not some rhetorical question. I really want to know.

Well simple, they stay on the field more than opposing benches, meaning they play more against other teams' starters. (And Evans )

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[Cugel]

Seth consistently comes off the bench ice cold and downs his first shot: a three. And probably his next two as well.

 

[blue9]

Seth is extremely good at shooting wide open 3's.

Which makes him half as good as Korver, since Korver was also excellent shooting off the curl.

I'd hate to be the team that shells out big bucks for a one-trick pony. We saw how that turned out with Crabbe! And while Crabbe may not have the career consistency that Curry has, he shot essentially the same percentage in his last season with us that Curry is currently shooting. These are minor role players and should be paid as such.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Sorry, you guys are trippin. I asked before and Ill ask again. Of the three players being discussed, who do you think OKC would want the most?

3pt shooting is the biggest asset a player can have in today's nba. Not sure if you can under rate one of the top 5 3pt shooters in the league this season.


He doesn't need to make plays. He needs to be spotted up for when Dame and CJ run into trouble. He is the missing link to sink the shots and keep defense honest.
He is what we wanted Crabbe to be.
He is what we wanted Napier to be.

We have been searching for a 40% 3pt shooter off the bench for a few years. Now we have him and he is expendable? Not buying it.

To answer your question, OKC would want Curry the most because they could play him with Westbrook and George. We can play him with Dame and CJ but not for major minutes.

I agree we need Curry's shooting off the bench and I would place him higher than Hood on the priority list. But we also need other things too. I want to keep him, I just don't see how.

 

[dviss1]

Probably start Meyers until Nurk returns.

 

[Orion Bailey]

To answer your question, OKC would want Curry the most because they could play him with Westbrook and George. We can play him with Dame and CJ but not for major minutes.

I agree we need Curry's shooting off the bench and I would place him higher than Hood on the priority list. But we also need other things too. I want to keep him, I just don't see how.

As many have said, that's Neil's job to figure it out...and he better!

 

[dviss1]

Seth consistently comes off the bench ice in his veins and downs his first shot: a three. And probably his next two as well.

FTFY

 

[dviss1]

The key is ridding ourselves of Turner.

Hood can do everything Turner can do.

We have to find a way to keep all three.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're saying that a stopgap starting center should be the MLE priority?

 

[dviss1]

So correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're saying that a stopgap starting center should be the MLE priority?

No. Meyers might be that stopgap.

It's just thinking about that made me figuratively throw up in my mouth a little...

I'm actually loving Meyers play this season. Flaws and all.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

This is the summer that NeO's signing of Turner and Myers comes back to really bite the team in the butt. This summer the Blazers need to trade Myers and / OR Turner at all costs and even if that means giving away a 1st round pick to do it. I am not sure they can get anyone of those 3 back but Hood is the easiest of the 3 cause i think he at best is a 3 to 5 million a year player while Kanter is 8m plus MIN and Curry i believe he will be 6 to 9 million a year player.

I think this is why Nurk's injury hurt the most cause i think this season / post season was the Blazers best chance for a run cause i believe next year this team unless NeO can pull a rabbit out of thin air this team will be a worse team then this year and i hate to say it but might even miss the playoffs next year.

 

[PCmor7]

Curry is valuable. I buy that in isolation.
Hood is a starting quality guy who can play multiple position. Again, I buy it.
Kanter is an elite offensive player.

GREAT! THEN WHY IS OUR BENCH +/- SO BAD????

It's not some rhetorical question. I really want to know.

I don't know how bad it is since Hood and Kanter came over, but the fact that those guys haven't been Blazers for even half a season might have something to do with it. The fact that Collins is in his second year as a pro and that Jake really is in his first year in the rotation might have something to do with it, too.

It's not like the bench is getting crushed with regularity. It's more a matter of it being wildly up or down.

 

[Orion Bailey]

This is the summer that NeO's signing of Turner and Myers comes back to really bite the team in the butt. This summer the Blazers need to trade Myers and / OR Turner at all costs and even if that means giving away a 1st round pick to do it. I am not sure they can get anyone of those 3 back but Hood is the easiest of the 3 cause i think he at best is a 3 to 5 million a year player while Kanter is 8m plus MIN and Curry i believe he will be 6 to 9 million a year player.

I think this is why Nurk's injury hurt the most cause i think this season / post season was the Blazers best chance for a run cause i believe next year this team unless NeO can pull a rabbit out of thin air this team will be a worse team then this year and i hate to say it but might even miss the playoffs next year.

This was also said at the end of last season about this season. And last season was the season it bit us in the ass.

NO fucked up in 2016. Nobody denies it, but since then he has been very crafty at trying to clean it up and improve this team. I believe he will continue to be crafty and figure something out to continue to improve this team into next season.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

It's weird to be talking about the offseason considering we're up 2-0, but...

if I was GM, I would try REALLY hard to have our upcoming offseason not mess up the 2020 offseason.
We currently only have $87 mil tied up in 2020.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/POR.html

*cough* Dame Supermax *cough*

 

[Ripcity4life77]

Orion when i said it will come to bite the team i mean in terms of handcuffing the team re-signing it's own players cause at this point Aminu is the only player they can get back IF they want him. The others if another team throw money at them the Blazers can do NOTHING about it.

 

[Natebishop3]

Based on what he said in this article, Hood is the only one who I could see taking a huge discount to stay here.

It sounds like he was on the verge of leaving basketball. If he can actually enjoy playing again, I don't think he would want to leave Portland for any amount of money.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Orion when i said it will come to bite the team i mean in terms of handcuffing the team re-signing it's own players cause at this point Aminu is the only player they can get back IF they want him. The others if another team throw money at them the Blazers can do NOTHING about it.

Actually I believe Layman is the only one we can get back because he is restricted AMinu will be a UFA. We cant get him back unless he wants to be here, just like Curry, Hood and Kanter.


Again, the same thing was said about Davis and Napier last year.
We will be fine.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

*cough* Dame Supermax *cough*

won't kick in until the year after.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Hood will play for the league minimum for us once he finds out we named a mountain after him.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Hood will play for the league minimum for us once he finds out we named a mountain after him.

He is too slow of a learner to keep up with this team if he hasnt yet already figured this out.

 

[chzbrgr]

I would put hood as priority over curry simply because of who we have on the roster already. Y’all are forgetting about Anfernee! That kid is going to be 3x the player curry is now. I’m excited to see him get 25 mins a game next year as our third small guard. He is going to absolutely thrive running the bench mob and shooting from everywhere. Trent is no slouch either. If we lose both hood and curry cause of money I’m only slightly more worried about Trent stepping in for hood.

 

[BBert]

Do you own a truck?

barfo

Better to rent one. Under a false identity.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I would put hood as priority over curry simply because of who we have on the roster already. Y’all are forgetting about Anfernee! That kid is going to be 3x the player curry is now. I’m excited to see him get 25 mins a game next year as our third small guard. He is going to absolutely thrive running the bench mob and shooting from everywhere. Trent is no slouch either. If we lose both hood and curry cause of money I’m only slightly more worried about Trent stepping in for hood.

Good point.

 

[hoopsjock]

Which makes him half as good as Korver, since Korver was also excellent shooting off the curl.

I'd hate to be the team that shells out big bucks for a one-trick pony. We saw how that turned out with Crabbe! And while Crabbe may not have the career consistency that Curry has, he shot essentially the same percentage in his last season with us that Curry is currently shooting. These are minor role players and should be paid as such.

The difference is the absolute max we can give Curry is $5.3 million. Crabbe would have had major trade value coming off his first season of his new contract if it was that low. If you think we can get a +40% 3 point shooter for cheaper than $5.3 million then fine, I'm down with that. Paying any of the 3 guys the Tax-MLE is NOT an overpay though, it's actually quite the opposite.

 

[blue9]

The difference is the absolute max we can give Curry is $5.3 million. Crabbe would have had major trade value coming off his first season of his new contract if it was that low. If you think we can get a +40% 3 point shooter for cheaper than $5.3 million then fine, I'm down with that. Paying any of the 3 guys the Tax-MLE is NOT an overpay though, it's actually quite the opposite.

Well, there were 30 players that shot 40% or better this season. I don't care to check their salaries, and for me it's not about getting a 40%+ shooter for less than $5.3M - it's about maximizing the talent:dollar ratio. In a vacuum that would be a decent contract for Curry - probably perfect actually. But since that's ALL the money we can spend I think it would be better to spend it on, say, Kanter if it's an option, or even Rod.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Well, there were 30 players that shot 40% or better this season. I don't care to check their salaries, and for me it's not about getting a 40%+ shooter for less than $5.3M - it's about maximizing the talent:dollar ratio. In a vacuum that would be a decent contract for Curry - probably perfect actually. But since that's ALL the money we can spend I think it would be better to spend it on, say, Kanter if it's an option, or even Rod.

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To dismiss salary makes this moot though doesnt it? I mean its the major factor in what we are able to do/sign. Without taking that into account, why dont we just go after steph curry then?

 

[blue9]

To dismiss salary makes this moot though doesnt it? I mean its the major factor in what we are able to do/sign. Without taking that into account, why dont we just go after steph curry then?

You obviously missed my point. "But since that's ALL the money we can spend I think it would be better to spend it on, say, Kanter if it's an option, or even Rod."

I posted that list in case anybody wanted to weigh in on whether any of them might fit into our salary picture. Like I said, I'm not sure about their salaries, but some of those names seem like they might be MLE-level (or even vet min?) players?