Hopefully some of y'all can quit dogging Terry MF Stotts now

[kjironman1]

Hmmm... Whats that smell... hmm... I smell... I smell....

Deflection!

"Whiskey Bottle... Brand new car...Oak tree your in my way.... the smell that surrounds you

You are too young to know what that is. Maybe @riverman

 

[TBpup]

I'm guessing we have a pretty good idea of what he won't say. That answer (or lack thereof) and that laugh says a lot.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I'm guessing we have a pretty good idea of what he won't say. That answer (or lack thereof) and that laugh says a lot.

I was thinking during the game I wish Dame and CJ got defended that way.

 

[kjironman1]

I was thinking during the game I wish Dame and CJ got defended that way.

Other teams don't have to guard them that way. The SF and PF positions are not a threat to score. Just lock down Dame and CJ and let the rest have shots. If the Blazers get one player other than CJ or Dame scoring game one is very very different.

 

[illmatic99]

I'm guessing we have a pretty good idea of what he won't say. That answer (or lack thereof) and that laugh says a lot.

Terry was the laughing stock on all the national shows yesterday. Kinda sorta feel for the guy.

 

[brooklynballer]

The loss in game 1 sucked to be sure but the silver lining is that there is finally some national attention on how absolutely fucking incompetent Terry Stotts is, how stubborn he is, and how unwilling he is to make any adjustments, even the most basic that any casual fan can see are needed.

I do hope that we win this series but, if we don’t, I hope that with every loss there’s increasing scrutiny on Stotts and his game plans. Maybe, just maybe, Olshey will take notice and after next season Terry will be gone for good.

#noadjustments #firestotts

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Other teams don't have to guard them that way. The SF and PF positions are not a threat to score. Just lock down Dame and CJ and let the rest have shots. If the Blazers get one player other than CJ or Dame scoring game one is very very different.

Are you suggesting that Draymond and Iguodala are significantly more dangerous scoring threats than Moe and Chief?

 

[illmatic99]

Are you suggesting that Draymond and Iguodala are significantly more dangerous scoring threats than Moe and Chief?

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scoring, no. but look at the asts. Their two are a lot more comfortable with the ball than our guys.

 

[TBpup]

scoring, no. but look at the asts. Their two are a lot more comfortable with the ball than our guys.

With Aminu in the equation, that is almost impossible to argue.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

scoring, no. but look at the asts. Their two are a lot more comfortable with the ball than our guys.

Sure--but that's not what KJ said. He said because our SF & PF aren't threats to score, teams can defend our PG/SG tight on the PnR, implying that teams can't do the same with GSW, presumably because their SF/PF aren't the same kind of scoring liability.

The fact that Green and Iggy are good passers doesn't change my point, which is that the threat of them scoring does not justify not defending Steph/Klay the same way teams defend Dame/CJ.

As a matter of fact, the fact that Dray and Iggy are so much better passing the ball should cause our guys to defend Steph and Klay even more tightly, not less.

 

[illmatic99]

The fact that Green and Iggy are good passers doesn't change my point, which is that the threat of them scoring does not justify not defending Steph/Klay the same way teams defend Dame/CJ.

It's arguing semantics, no? Because the main point here is that we unfortunately can't guard their guards like they guard ours.

We can't trap as aggressively on Steph because he'll pass to Draymond on the short roll where he is an absolutely ELITE playmaker at his size. While he doesn't finish those plays he himself, he makes perfect decisions to pass to shooters on the weakside, or lob passes to the rim, or patiently re-position to Steph after running him through some action for a wide open 3.

While if you have Aminu being the release valve for Dame, you're just asking for a clanked three or a futile attempt to the rim resulting in a turnover.

All this said, I'd still like to get the ball out of Steph's hands, stay home on shooters and let Draymond take a one legged floater all day. It's what we did when we killed em at home in Feb. Not sure why we decided against it last night. And fwiw, that was with Collins at C-- not Nurk. This was the game when we announced that we signed Kanter. Zach balled out.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

It's arguing semantics, no? Because the main point here is that we unfortunately can't guard their guards like they guard ours.

Not arguing semantics--I'm actually responding to the statements he made. "Just lock down Dame and CJ and let the rest have shots. If the Blazers get one player other than CJ or Dame scoring game one is very very different." If it's as simple as "locking down" the opposition's best two scorers, we should be able to do the same. My contention would be that it's not actually that simple. Either we should be able to defend them similarly, or we should be able to respond to the defense similarly.

Maybe we need to us GSW's defense on them so Stotts can watch how a Kerr-coached team responds to it, so that he can then attempt to replicate the same technique.

 

[BonesJones]

Other teams don't have to guard them that way. The SF and PF positions are not a threat to score. Just lock down Dame and CJ and let the rest have shots. If the Blazers get one player other than CJ or Dame scoring game one is very very different.

I'm so sick of this excuse. Their forwards are worse shooters than ours!

They have Iggy and Draymond, who shot a combined 30.8% from 3 this year.

Harkless and Aminu shot a combined 32.2%.

Why do people always make up false excuses for Stotts? It was a terrible defense gameplan. Even you questioned it. The commentators questioned it. The media questioned it. NBA fans across the country questioned it.

And it goes back to the same complaint that Ive been saying for years that some people refuse to listen to.

 

[illmatic99]

Maybe we need to us GSW's defense on them so Stotts can watch how a Kerr-coached team responds to it, so that he can then attempt to replicate the same technique.

OK I admit I chuckled. This is the kinda shade we need more of in this place.

 

[Dougnsalem]

"Whiskey Bottle... Brand new car...Oak tree your in my way.... the smell that surrounds you

You are too young to know what that is. Maybe @riverman

It's possible that he may know it.....


I know- not the one you intended. Lol

 

[CupWizier]

I'm so sick of this excuse. Their forwards are worse shooters than ours!

They have Iggy and Draymond, who shot a combined 30.8% from 3 this year.

Harkless and Aminu shot a combined 32.2%.

Why do people always make up false excuses for Stotts? It was a terrible defense gameplan. Even you questioned it. The commentators questioned it. The media questioned it. NBA fans across the country questioned it.

And it goes back to the same complaint that Ive been saying for years that some people refuse to listen to.

There's a lot more to the game of basketball than just shooting 3 pointers. Both Green and Iggy are very good passers and ball handlers and superior to any small or power forward we have

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Are you suggesting that Draymond and Iguodala are significantly more dangerous scoring threats than Moe and Chief?

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Where Draymond and Iggy are playing a different game then the Blazer forwards is that they are comfortable handling the ball and initiating the offense and passing. They pass and get so many more assists than the Blazer forwards who never look comfortable with the ball.

 

[CupWizier]

Not arguing semantics--I'm actually responding to the statements he made. "Just lock down Dame and CJ and let the rest have shots. If the Blazers get one player other than CJ or Dame scoring game one is very very different." If it's as simple as "locking down" the opposition's best two scorers, we should be able to do the same. My contention would be that it's not actually that simple. Either we should be able to defend them similarly, or we should be able to respond to the defense similarly.

Maybe we need to us GSW's defense on them so Stotts can watch how a Kerr-coached team responds to it, so that he can then attempt to replicate the same technique.

Advantage GS has is that they can put size on our guards without suffering as much by putting Curry on someone taller, where as if we put size on Curry and Thompson that means Lillard and McCollum will face guarding taller players and face the possibility of being posted up.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Advantage GS has is that they can put size on our guards without suffering as much by putting Curry on someone taller, where as if we put size on Curry and Thompson that means Lillard and McCollum will face guarding taller players and face the possibility of being posted up.

Have you ever watched Dame defend in the post? He's one of the best post defenders on the team. Iggy posting up Dame is not an advantage for GSW.

And Klay doesn't really require someone with size/length defending him since he's a mediocre ball-handler. He simply needs someone to stay with him.

 

[CupWizier]

Have you ever watched Dame defend in the post? He's one of the best post defenders on the team. Iggy posting up Dame is not an advantage for GSW.

And Klay doesn't really require someone with size/length defending him since he's a mediocre ball-handler. He simply needs someone to stay with him.

Can't say I agree with much of that as we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Both Green and Iggy are very good passers and ball handlers and superior to any small or power forward we have

Where Draymond and Iggy are playing a different game then the Blazer forwards is that they are comfortable handling the ball and initiating the offense and passing. They pass and get so many more assists than the Blazer forwards who never look comfortable with the ball.

Nobody's disputing that, but those aren't reasonable justifications for not defending Steph/Klay as tightly as GSW does Dame/CJ. As I said earlier...

As a matter of fact, the fact that Dray and Iggy are so much better passing the ball should cause our guys to defend Steph and Klay even more tightly, not less.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Nobody's disputing that, but those aren't reasonable justifications for not defending Steph/Klay as tightly as GSW does Dame/CJ. As I said earlier...

Well it is though, because they use Iggy and Draymond as their escape valves on traps. So they have two guys who they trust to get out of it and create offense. Thats actually a big part of what Nurk does for the Blazers. It means if you overload Curry and Thompson they have offense happening on the weakside with Draymond or Iggy initiating it.
The Blazers on the other hand pass it out of a trap and usually the escape valve either takes an awkward 3 or just stands and waits for a guard to come get the ball.

They need to force other guys to beat them, and guard Klay / Steph up in their bodies with multiple defenders and multiple looks but its a huge difference when you have escape valves who can attack and give you offense, the Aminu / Harkless aren't really that.

 

[CupWizier]

Nobody's disputing that, but those aren't reasonable justifications for not defending Steph/Klay as tightly as GSW does Dame/CJ. As I said earlier...

There's a reason why GS has been to the finals 5 years in a row and won it 3 out 4 times and possibly 4 out of 5 years. They are a very talented and well seasoned and experienced team. We have only played one game so far and many are panicking in this forum as they often overreact. Most of the kiddos in this forum never saw the championship series in 77 where we got blown out in the first 2 games on the road and came back and then swept Philly with 4 straight.

 

[noknobs]

I blatantly stated facts.....I see where that was confusing. Still gave them props....twice. Somehow, that keeps being selectively missed.

Maybe because your "props" were sarcasm?

Blazers beat a OKC team that had never won a Playoff series without Durant. Props!

Blazers beat a Denver team that almost everyone thought was one of the most overrated #2 seeds in quite some time and was in their first Playoff series as a current roster. Still more Props!

Yeah, that's sarcasm. And it's more than a little funny that you're now trying to play it off like you meant it.

 

[Minstrel]

You can't sell out against Curry and Thompson the way you can against Lillard and McCollum not because Green and Iguodala are tremendous scorers, but because they're excellent at getting the ball after a trap, attacking the paint, drawing help in a 4-on-3 situation and finding the open guy. One of the reasons Curry is so valuable is that even when he isn't scoring, he's warping the defense and allowing his play-making forwards to work in a power play all the time. And both Green and Iguodala are great play-makers who can take advantage. Harkless and Aminu aren't.

 

[calvin natt]

Maybe because your "props" were sarcasm?



Yeah, that's sarcasm. And it's more than a little funny that you're now trying to play it off like you meant it.

Yep

 

[Minstrel]

That said, one of the smart things Golden State/Green does when defenses leave Green unguarded on the perimeter is that when he gets the ball he immediately dribbles into a hand-off with Curry or Klay. If Green is unguarded, the screen he sets on Curry's/Thompson's defender pops Curry or Thompson free as there's no Green defender around to trap, hedge or switch. Aminu and Harkless need to do more of that.

 

[oldmangrouch]

There's a reason why GS has been to the finals 5 years in a row and won it 3 out 4 times and possibly 4 out of 5 years. They are a very talented and well seasoned and experienced team. We have only played one game so far and many are panicking in this forum as they often overreact. Most of the kiddos in this forum never saw the championship series in 77 where we got blown out in the first 2 games on the road and came back and then swept Philly with 4 straight.

I remember 77 very well. That was the year of the title, I graduated college, and got married. A good year!

As for the current Blazers - sorry, but I see no comparison in the situations.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Wait wait wait.

Dame had to "SCHEDULE" a film session with Terry? WTF is this madness? The star has to take time out to ask for a special extra film review? In the fucking conference finals?

Why did Terry not do that first?

And Moe's suggestion of ET at the 5 is something I'd seriously consider. I hope these guys bring it up to our clueless coach. That would seriously allow us to switch everything and blow up their P&Rs. We don't need rim protection in this series.

AND, the fact that this is how they address something that has been a problem for years, having a film session the night before a crucial playoff game. It's incredible! It seems to me that over the years Stotts is so intent on winning each regular season game, that they have never tried to develop schemes and skills for use in playoff games.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I can only think of one explanation why Stotts allowed Curry the open shots all game. He knew that Curry has been struggling a little with his shooting lately. So maybe he won't make his shots. Or maybe it would get in his head that he is being left so wide open. Well if this was the plan; it's backfired. Curry has regained his confidence. Not sure why Stotts couldn't have seen this by halftime.