OT How black Utah Jazz players have embraced SLC

[Wizard Mentor]

Has relevance to Portland in terms of Free Agency and in other ways. Arguably an actual small vs. large media market article.

http://theundefeated.com/features/h...mbraced-salt-lake-city/?addata=espn:nba:index

 

[Mediocre Man]

Now we just need ESPN to come out with division that only covers white athletes and talk about white athletes adjusting to life in Detroit.

 

[Cippy91]

jesus christ, I don't see how this matters. Wow I feel bad for all those black players in Utah, they have to be around white people, why can't they just magically send in thousands of black families to live in Utah, I am gonna go protest now...

 

[Wizard Mentor]

jesus christ, I don't see how this matters. Wow I feel bad for all those black players in Utah, they have to be around white people, why can't they just magically send in thousands of black families to live in Utah, I am gonna go protest now...

It's about entering what is perceived as a different culture. It definitely has relevance to Free Agency. Thanks, but my avatar is Wizard Mentor - I only go by Jesus Christ outside of these boards.

 

[Cippy91]

It's about entering what is perceived as a different culture. It definitely has relevance to Free Agency. Thanks, but my avatar is Wizard Mentor - I only go by Jesus Christ outside of these boards.

it's more of a response to the article. I mean it might have relevance to free agency but there aren't a ton of places in the United states where it's majority black or at least most of these cities that have NBA teams. If you can't be around tons of white people who support you then I just don't get it. Imagine if an article was written the opposite way, white players having to adjust because there aren't many of them in a particular city. Shit would be racist. Heads would fly.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Oden would have thrived in Utah.

 

[Cippy91]

“I never had any problems. The people always treated me nice,” said former Jazz forward-center Thurl Bailey, an African-American who converted to Mormonism.

IN UTAH?!?! NO FUCKING WAY! lol

 

[riverman]

Now we just need ESPN to come out with division that only covers white athletes and talk about white athletes adjusting to life in Detroit.

You're Mike Rice?

 

[riverman]

Oden would have thrived in Utah.

He probably would

 

[Eastoff]

it's more of a response to the article. I mean it might have relevance to free agency but there aren't a ton of places in the United states where it's majority black or at least most of these cities that have NBA teams. If you can't be around tons of white people who support you then I just don't get it. Imagine if an article was written the opposite way, white players having to adjust because there aren't many of them in a particular city. Shit would be racist. Heads would fly.

Just curious, have you lived outside or Oregon/Washington?

 

[Bob Dobalina]

it's more of a response to the article. I mean it might have relevance to free agency but there aren't a ton of places in the United states where it's majority black or at least most of these cities that have NBA teams. If you can't be around tons of white people who support you then I just don't get it. Imagine if an article was written the opposite way, white players having to adjust because there aren't many of them in a particular city. Shit would be racist. Heads would fly.

I understand it's probably hard for you to get it. I'd say it's much more difficult for a white person to find themselves in a situation surrounded by a bunch of black people than it is for a black person to find themselves in a similar situation (in this part of the country anyway). Trust me, I'm from Portland, live in Vancouver and I'm black. While I'm pretty much used to it (being around and among caucasians most of the time) every now and then I get a longing for "home". For me it's not so much that I "can't be around tons of white people", I'm fine with that. For me it comes down to being my "black self". That article pointed out a pretty good example. The white families that did not know what grits were or thought the catfish was bad. In my experience, I've felt the need to temper some of the "blackness" cause it will either confuse or scare (especially white females) people. This is just my experience, not saying all white people are a certain way, etc.

 

[Cippy91]

Just curious, have you lived outside or Oregon/Washington?

Nope. So maybe that came off a little ignorant. Okay to, explain better. What I meant was there are a lot of places where it's more black than white but as far as NBA cities go, I would think other than the southern states, cali obviously. Brooklyn, DC. Maybe a couple more not a lot of the NBA cities are a predominately black area. Areas within the cities but not the actual city. If that makes any sense?

 

[Cippy91]

I understand it's probably hard for you to get it. I'd say it's much more difficult for a white person to find themselves in a situation surrounded by a bunch of black people than it is for a black person to find themselves in a similar situation (in this part of the country anyway). Trust me, I'm from Portland, live in Vancouver and I'm black. While I'm pretty much used to it (being around and among caucasians most of the time) every now and then I get a longing for "home". For me it's not so much that I "can't be around tons of white people", I'm fine with that. For me it comes down to being my "black self". That article pointed out a pretty good example. The white families that did not know what grits were or thought the catfish was bad. In my experience, I've felt the need to temper some of the "blackness" cause it will either confuse or scare (especially white females) people. This is just my experience, not saying all white people are a certain way, etc.

No I get that you probably would want to be around what you were brought up in just to get that feeling. It makes sense. Everybody needs that sense of home, there is a reason why Dame brought up all his family from Oakland to Portland. I get all that. I get maybe how it could play a part in free agency but I honestly think money is a bigger factor in free agency as well as market size than the race of the people there to most players.

 

[Cippy91]

Just curious, have you lived outside or Oregon/Washington?

Don't live in Portland by the way. Gresham. Definitely areas here where the minority is the majority.

 

[ripcityboy]

I understand it's probably hard for you to get it. I'd say it's much more difficult for a white person to find themselves in a situation surrounded by a bunch of black people than it is for a black person to find themselves in a similar situation (in this part of the country anyway). Trust me, I'm from Portland, live in Vancouver and I'm black. While I'm pretty much used to it (being around and among caucasians most of the time) every now and then I get a longing for "home". For me it's not so much that I "can't be around tons of white people", I'm fine with that. For me it comes down to being my "black self". That article pointed out a pretty good example. The white families that did not know what grits were or thought the catfish was bad. In my experience, I've felt the need to temper some of the "blackness" cause it will either confuse or scare (especially white females) people. This is just my experience, not saying all white people are a certain way, etc.

Well, you always got the Church of Subgenesis going for you. Remember, slack is precious and we must do what we can to maintain it!

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Don't live in Portland by the way. Gresham. Definitely areas here where the minority is the majority.

Yeah man. I've been to both of the flea markets in rockwood. One of them I felt like everyone was very welcoming. The other.....not so much.

But still, pretty freaking white. An ever growing latino and russian population im gresham it seems.

 

[Troy.Ave]

jesus christ, I don't see how this matters. Wow I feel bad for all those black players in Utah, they have to be around white people, why can't they just magically send in thousands of black families to live in Utah, I am gonna go protest now...

You would never relate so it's interesting you would say that

 

[Cippy91]

You would never relate so it's interesting you would say that

Twas a joke but feel free to be triggered

 

[stampedehero]

He probably would
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Fargo!!!

 

[Cippy91]

Yeah man. I've been to both of the flea markets in rockwood. One of them I felt like everyone was very welcoming. The other.....not so much.

But still, pretty freaking white. An ever growing latino and russian population im gresham it seems.

yeah it's still pretty white. A lot of latinos. More blacks than there was I would say 10 years ago by far. A lot of russians. I go to the LA fitness out in Gresham station and there are a lot of russians, ukranians, etc.

 

[THE HCP]

I'll be honest, I even feel out of my element when I'm in SLC. Haven't read this article or what it says yet, but I'm always blown way at how these players adapt there. Think of guys like Marvin WIlliamns who came from Atlanta to Utah.....what a culture shock that had to have been. Same goes the other way if a player grew up in Nebraska and played for the Knicks I guess.

And Mr. BobDob, had a great time the other day bringing my son to get his hair cut from my friends over at Terrell Brandon's Barbershop..... felt like we were in the middle of Coming To America!

#TheHCPLovesBlackPeople

 

[Eastoff]

Source; https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab...-nba-teams-have-a-majority-minority-fan-base/

 

[Cippy91]

Source; https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab...-nba-teams-have-a-majority-minority-fan-base/

 

[Eastoff]

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Firstly, is it wrong that I picture you being Jessie Pinkman?
Secondly, it is interesting that black people are so much higher proportionally. Thirdly, Gatorade me, bitch!

 

[KingSpeed]

Now we just need ESPN to come out with division that only covers white athletes and talk about white athletes adjusting to life in Detroit.

There are more whites than blacks in Detroit, esp in Auburn Hills.

 

[Mediocre Man]

There are more whites than blacks in Detroit, esp in Auburn Hills.

Auburn Hills is like 35 miles from Detroit. 10 more miles and it's like Portland to Salem.

But regardless, in Detroit the population is 83% African American

 

[Strenuus]

Firstly, is it wrong that I picture you being Jessie Pinkman?
Secondly, it is interesting that black people are so much higher proportionally. Thirdly, Gatorade me, bitch!

Breakin Bad quotes. Best quotes.

Say my name.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Now we just need ESPN to come out with division that only covers white athletes and talk about white athletes adjusting to life in Detroit.

They already have that. It's called the NHL.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

I also think it's misguided to assume all white culture (or black culture) is the same. I've lived in the South and the Midwest and spent significant time in SLC. The white culture in SLC is much different than the white culture in the South or the Midwest. Although SLC, thanks to an influx of jobs in the high tech industry, among other factors, is now less than 50% Mormon, the Mormon church and its culture and history are still a very strong influence in SLC and especially the rural areas of Utah.

I'm not saying that's either good or bad, just different. The white folks in SLC are different than the white folks in Georgia or Louisiana, who are different than the white folks in Indiana and Ohio. I would also suspect the black folks from Georgia and South Carolina are different, in many ways, culturally, from the black folks from New York and Massachusetts. There is more to culture than race. Of course race plays a part but so does location and ethnic heritage. Because of their different ethnic backgrounds and immigration experiences, white Irish Americans have a different culture than white Italian Americans or white Russian Americans. Again, culture is about more than race. It's about shared experiences and includes many things like music, cuisine, religion, etc.

Anyway, interesting article. Thanks for sharing it.

BNM

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I understand it's probably hard for you to get it. I'd say it's much more difficult for a white person to find themselves in a situation surrounded by a bunch of black people than it is for a black person to find themselves in a similar situation (in this part of the country anyway). Trust me, I'm from Portland, live in Vancouver and I'm black. While I'm pretty much used to it (being around and among caucasians most of the time) every now and then I get a longing for "home". For me it's not so much that I "can't be around tons of white people", I'm fine with that. For me it comes down to being my "black self". That article pointed out a pretty good example. The white families that did not know what grits were or thought the catfish was bad. In my experience, I've felt the need to temper some of the "blackness" cause it will either confuse or scare (especially white females) people. This is just my experience, not saying all white people are a certain way, etc.

In their defense, catfish IS bad. I lived in Arkansas for three LOOOONG years. Catfish is bad. Grits are tasteless. Okra is slimy. These are facts.