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52-4 is just a ridiculous record.

They have currently won 19 in a row and won 24 in a row earlier in the season. Out of 56 games, they have allowed 1, or fewer, runs 30 times. In three tournament games, they have outscored their opponents 27-3.

Their current winning percentage would equate to going 150-12 over a 162 game schedule. The major league record for wins in a 162 game season is 116.

Now they just need to win the College World Series to lay claim to the greatest season in NCAA baseball history.

BNM
 
They have currently won 19 in a row and won 24 in a row earlier in the season. Out of 56 games, they have allowed 1, or fewer, runs 30 times. In three tournament games, they have outscored their opponents 27-3.

Their current winning percentage would equate to going 150-12 over a 162 game schedule. The major league record for wins in a 162 game season is 116.

Now they just need to win the College World Series to lay claim to the greatest season in NCAA baseball history.

BNM
If they lose the College World Series, next season they'll add Kevyn Duranterson and take everyone out. That would be good for the game. Hehe.


Out of context joke aside, their season and record is one of the most dominant seasons a team has had in any sport ever. It's up there with the Miami Dolphins going undefeated and any other milestone you can think of.
 
just got crewed by ESPN to work these. Props to the Beavs on a great season.
Legendary Oregon team......something we can all be proud of! Go Beavs! Get some swag for your kids....autographs...etc.
 
Well he was 15 at the time and he has performed his duties related to the crime. I'm cutting him some slack. Just a terrible time for this story to be published though.
 
Well he was 15 at the time and he has performed his duties related to the crime. I'm cutting him some slack. Just a terrible time for this story to be published though.

The kid was 6. You're cutting him some slack?
 
Well he was 15 at the time and he has performed his duties related to the crime. I'm cutting him some slack. Just a terrible time for this story to be published though.

Would you be cutting him slack if he was a Duck?
 
It was a terrible thing done by a 15 year old juvenile. I am cutting him some slack.

The conviction

Heimlich's felony conviction stems from an incident prosecuted by Pierce County beginning in March 2012. The young victim had reported Heimlich's abuse to her mother, and the father later contacted authorities, according to a probable cause document filed by prosecutors.

The girl told investigators that inside Heimlich's bedroom, he pulled down her underwear and "touched her on both the inside and outside of the spot she uses to go to the bathroom," according to court records.

"She said that she told him to stop, but he wouldn't," the documents state, and that "it hurt" when he touched her.

Prosecutors initially charged Heimlich with two counts of molestation for incidents between September 2009 and September 2010, and between September 2011 to December 2011. In Washington, child molestation in the first degree is a Class A felony.

"She said that the first time the respondent touched her she was four years old and that she was six years old the last time he did this," according to court records.

Heimlich ultimately pleaded guilty to one count of molestation between February 2011 and December 2011, a period in which he was 15. Prosecutors dismissed the other charge as part of a plea bargain.
 
Yea I'm sorry but I'm as big of a Beaver fan as there gets and I would be crucifying UofHole if this happened on their team. The timing of the release of this story is not the most important detail here. I will remain a supporter of Beaver baseball but can't support Luke Heimlich after he molested a six year old girl. I would be surprised if Casey ever knew about this.
 
I have a 15 year old son and this is straight messed up. 15 year olds know what the hell they are doing.
 
Well he wasn't a catcher....this we know.....I joke about young teenaged nerds but if there's a legal issue, this kid has to live with his consequences...he's a young adult now and I'm sure it's hard to go through life with that baggage in his past...I hate to see these stories during the playoffs....it was a story when he was 15. I'm always sorry to hear a toddler had to experience that at such a young age...
 
Yea I'm sorry but I'm as big of a Beaver fan as there gets and I would be crucifying UofHole if this happened on their team. The timing of the release of this story is not the most important detail here. I will remain a supporter of Beaver baseball but can't support Luke Heimlich after he molested a six year old girl. I would be surprised if Casey ever knew about this.
Same. There's no way I am going to defend this guy. Child molestation is the most incomprehensible acts in the world. Yes, he was a juvenile, but this is a lot bigger of a deal than stealing laptops. Luckily the beavs have a lot of stars I can throw my support behind instead of this guy.
 
I don't know the kid nor do most folks around here but he could have been successful through rehab or anything....I'm not tagging him as a monster...if he were 40 when he did it I would ..15 year old kids make some stupid decisions and in this case, a really stupid one.
 
I have a 15 year old son and this is straight messed up. 15 year olds know what the hell they are doing.
I have to wonder if he was molested himself as a kid (not that it excuses anything). The stereotype is unfortunate, but as the 7th of 8 kids in a homeschool family, it's not an unreasonable question.
 
15 year olds know right from wrong. They don't necessarily comprehend the enormity of all their actions or make good decisions.

Should he be condemned for this? Yes. Should he be considered a monster for his entire life? I don't know. It rises well beyond "mistake," but it's not necessarily proof that he's pure evil.
 
15 year olds know right from wrong. They don't necessarily comprehend the enormity of all their actions or make good decisions.

Should he be condemned for this? Yes. Should he be considered a monster for his entire life? I don't know. It rises well beyond "mistake," but it's not necessarily proof that he's pure evil.
I've taught a lot of Jr High School...my least favorite level to teach and there are some kids at that age who are not mature nor handle their hormonal changes well. They SHOULD be adjusted by then but we don't focus a lot on that in early education.
 
It was messed up and certainly the little girl was the true victim. With that said he has performed his duties as prescribed by the court and has not had another incident since then. The story itself says that recidivism is close to zero if the perpetrator gets past 3 years without another act after going through rehab. I am not excusing what he did, but he deserves another chance especially since he was 15 at the time. He still has to register as a sex offender which is a pretty severe punishment in my opinion.
 
It was messed up and certainly the little girl was the true victim. With that said he has performed his duties as prescribed by the court and has not had another incident since then. The story itself says that recidivism is close to zero if the perpetrator gets past 3 years without another act after going through rehab. I am not excusing what he did, but he deserves another chance especially since he was 15 at the time. He still has to register as a sex offender which is a pretty severe punishment in my opinion.

I agree. Good post.
 
I wonder--do people believe that child molesters are irredeemable? Or, is there an age after which commission of molestation indicates irreparable character? Is someone born with a predilection toward molestation, or is it the product of external factors? The low recidivism rate mentioned seems to suggest that teenage molesters may have a correctable failing.
 
Yes, what he did was horrible and it was a crime. So, I'm not "cutting the kid some slack". He deserves the punishment he got at the time, and because he failed to keep his registration current he deserves the negative publicity he's getting now. No one did this to him. He is not the victim. He broke the law - twice now, and rightfully suffers the consequences.

However, the one encouraging thing I learned is that juvenile sex offenders rarely become repeat offenders:

"Research shows that the vast majority of juveniles convicted of sex crimes do not reoffend in subsequent years.

After about three years, the likelihood of reoffending is "very small," said psychologist Michael Caldwell, who lectures at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

At five years, the recidivism rate for another sex crime hovers at 2.75 percent, according to a study that Caldwell published in 2016. That's because juvenile sex offenders tend to mature and respond well to intervention, Caldwell said."

"It's referred to as a redemption threshold, the point at which the person is no more at risk than any other individual walking around on the street," he said.

Heimlich was ordered to register as a Level 1 sex offender in Washington beginning Aug. 27, 2012. Washington characterizes Level 1 offenders as having "the lowest possible risk to the community and their likelihood to re-offend is considered minimal."

I did not know that the recidivism rate was so low for juvenile sex offenders. So, it's terrible he did what he did, but it's good that he got caught and had to go through the treatment program. Hopefully, the treatment program was successful and he will not become a repeat offender. That doesn't help the little girl he molested, but hopefully it means there won't be other little girls he molests in the future.

BNM
 
I find it funny that the people who are defending him are all Beaver fans.
 
I find it funny that the people who are defending him are all Beaver fans.
I don't think anyone's defending him. Molestation is indefensible. What is defensible is whether or not a molestation conviction at 15 should preclude someone from being able to play baseball.
 
I don't think anyone's defending him. Molestation is indefensible. What is defensible is whether or not a molestation conviction at 15 should preclude someone from being able to play baseball.

I made this post in the OT forum, so I don't really want to re-write the whole thing, but should pro athletes be held to a higher standard than the average person? Should someone that did what he did be allowed to become a role model for other kids?

Should he be allowed to attend college? Sure. Should he be allowed to have a life? Sure. Should he be allowed to move past his mistake? Absolutely. Should he be allowed to make millions of dollars and work in the spotlight as a role model? I don't think so. There are plenty of people that can throw a baseball. This guy can go do some other perfectly mundane job and fade into obscurity. He doesn't deserve the right to be a celebrity.
 

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