How long of a leash should Chauncey have?

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What should we do with Chauncey?

  • Fire him - even young players deserve a good coach

    Votes: 23 32.4%

  • He should be on a short leash - if we look like we're not progressing, he should go in season

    Votes: 31 43.7%

  • The worse we are the better - let's re-evaluate next Summer

    Votes: 15 21.1%

  • He's a good coach! Prove he isn't!

    Votes: 2 2.8%
  • Total voters
    71
To me Chauncey still talks too much about learning his guys and trying things out and etc but he's going on his third season with a total of 69 wins and more blown 4th qtrs and leads than I can remember. I have not been impressed with his playbook or his offensive instincts. Get these young guys a head coach with playoff experience and a solid playbook before they form any more bad habits on offense. We have enough talented vets to beat the Wizards but we've gone from a top 10 defensive team to a team that is a getting smoked on the scoreboard night after night. Shake it up if you're going to rebuild...start with the coach. Go out and get an alpha franchise player that's old enough to have a beer. At some point the ball stopped zipping around and we have half a qtr of Ant taking every shot...half a qtr of Grant taking every shot...half a qtr of Sharpe taking every shot...half a qtr with Scoot taking every shot....I'd rather we kept the opposing defense guessing once in a while instead of being so predictable with the ISO game. I've shut off 4 games before the 4th qtr this season and that's never happened in decades. I miss the Blazers being a solid playoff team every year instead of a lottery wish list team.
 
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Talking about Chauncey's record is pretty close to insane. We all know that he hasn't been afforded a roster meant to win. As far as Chauncey talking constantly about learning his team, that might be because the roster turnover since he's been here has been insane.

The fact is Chauncey has done well developing guys but he also looks like he would have a hard time making the necessary in game adjustments to win if he had a team that was supposed to win. The jury is still out on how good Chauncey can be as a head coach but judging him now given the weak rosters that he has coached doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
blazerkor said:
Talking about Chauncey's record is pretty close to insane. We all know that he hasn't been afforded a roster meant to win. As far as Chauncey talking constantly about learning his team, that might be because the roster turnover since he's been here has been insane.

The fact is Chauncey has done well developing guys but he also looks like he would have a hard time making the necessary in game adjustments to win if he had a team that was supposed to win. The jury is still out on how good Chauncey can be as a head coach but judging him now given the weak rosters that he has coached doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Every team is supposed to win. Bottom line. We have enough talent to be finishing games well. Our top 10 defense is gone...it should have gotten better..our ball movement is gone. That's coaching....these guys know how to pass a basketball. If that is me being insane, well...I'll just have to be insane then.
 
riverman said:
To me Chauncey still talks too much about learning his guys and trying things out and etc but he's going on his third season with a total of 69 wins and more blown 4th qtrs and leads than I can remember. I have not been impressed with his playbook or his offensive instincts. Get these young guys a head coach with playoff experience and a solid playbook before they form any more bad habits on offense. We have enough talented vets to beat the Wizards but we've gone from a top 10 defensive team to a team that is a getting smoked on the scoreboard night after night. Shake it up if you're going to rebuild...start with the coach. Go out and get an alpha franchise player that's old enough to have a beer. At some point the ball stopped zipping around and we have half a qtr of Ant taking every shot...half a qtr of Grant taking every shot...half a qtr of Sharpe taking every shot...half a qtr with Scoot taking every shot....I'd rather we kept the opposing defense guessing once in a while instead of being so predictable with the ISO game. I've shut off 4 games before the 4th qtr this season and that's never happened in decades. I miss the Blazers being a solid playoff team every year instead of a lottery wish list team.
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Don Nelson?
 
MickZagger said:
Don Nelson?
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I'm not sure who I'd target but I think wee need an upgrade. I'd consider David Vanderpool considering what he did with Dame early on in Dame's career. I just want a coach who knows his/her playbook and uses his/her tools effectively and not one who's searching for something that might work..
 
riverman said:
Every team is supposed to win. Bottom line. We have enough talent to be finishing games well. Our top 10 defense is gone...it should have gotten better..our ball movement is gone. That's coaching....these guys know how to pass a basketball. If that is me being insane, well...I'll just have to be insane then.
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This is a bottom 5 roster when you factor in talent, experience, and availability.
 
Tince said:
This is a bottom 5 roster when you factor in talent, experience, and availability.
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Not on the defensive side of the ball. It's shown it can be a top 5 defense....we got lazy. We do not have enough offensive talent, that's for sure. I don't think our offense is being used properly as it is. Guys take turns playing ISO ball too much.
 
riverman said:
Not on the defensive side of the ball. It's shown it can be a top 5 defense....we got lazy
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We have two good vet defenders.

Young athletes don't always equal good defenders, especially without experience. We can be good defensively down the road, but I'm think 2-3 years, not months.
 
Tince said:
We have two good vet defenders.

Young athletes don't always equal good defenders, especially without experience. We can be good defensively down the road, but I'm think 2-3 years, not months.
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Camara and Walker are good defenders...Scoot is better than Dame was and Shaedon can be when he wants to...all these guys played us into a top 10 defense early in the season..Ant, our vet is not a good defender. Our defense has been better when he's on the bench.
 
riverman said:
Camara and Walker are good defenders...Scoot is better than Dame was and Shaedon can be when he wants to...all these guys played us into a top 10 defense early in the season..Ant, our vet is not a good defender. Our defense has been better when he's on the bench.
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We've been top 10 in defense a couple times the last few years early in the season. The someone creates a thread drawing the conclusion we're a good defensive team, some of us say "too small of a sample size", and thus far, by the end of the season we've been a bottom ten defense.

I'm not ready to call Walker of Scoot "good defenders". Camara is very good for a rookie, but still shows his lack of experience semi-regularly.

This is not a top 10 defense in my opinion.
 
beast crnjo said:
I'm not seeing any evidence of good coaching. The talent level on this team is not nearly as abysmal as their on court performance. I'm not saying they're good, but I think a good coach would get alot more out of this team.
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This roster fully healthy would win 23 games, what are you talking about?
 
THE HCP said:
It’s not inexperience….it’s the lack of talent. OKC is a fantastic example of inexperienced, yet talented.
We are not OKC.
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I keep saying, we are closer to the Pistons than we are the Thunder.
 
riverman said:
I'm not sure who I'd target but I think wee need an upgrade. I'd consider David Vanderpool considering what he did with Dame early on in Dame's career. I just want a coach who knows his/her playbook and uses his/her tools effectively and not one who's searching for something that might work..
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How about that Adelman kid coaching Denver? He’s been Malone’s lead assistant for a few years now.

https://denversports.com/2103009/who-is-denver-nuggets-assistant-coach-david-adelman/
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Let's look at the Mavs roster. Oh look, they're starting a rookie and a guy who wasn't good enough for the Blazers.

Meanwhile:
Anfernee -31
Grant -13
Brogdon -12

You can be young and still compete.
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lmao, Luka is a superstar that can win you games alone plus they have Irving. I see you bumped this thread which is one you made yourself lol..
 
Whyachi said:
Blazers were statues on defense tonight. Weakside effort took the night off. Coach Billups won't chew his players out, so that job has been given to Blazer fans?
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what? He has been getting on players all the time, what are you smoking?
 
riverman said:
Not on the defensive side of the ball. It's shown it can be a top 5 defense....we got lazy. We do not have enough offensive talent, that's for sure. I don't think our offense is being used properly as it is. Guys take turns playing ISO ball too much.
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Yeah it was one thing to lose games while keeping the opposing team scoring around 100 points. Recently they have just been getting boat raced.
I just looked it up. The first 20 games they only gave up over 120 points 4 times. In the last 12 games they have given up over 120 points 6 times. Now this could simply be because of injuries and to be fair they only scored over 110 points 8 times in the first 20 games while they have score 110 points 8 times in the last 12 games also.
Simons being out might have been the biggest factor on these issues?
 
THE HCP said:
This roster fully healthy would win 23 games, what are you talking about?
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Are you so sure they wouldn't be better with better coaching? They are not being paid like a basement team. So quite a few NBA GMs have seen the value in our current players.
 
julius said:
Easy.

SGA Lotto pick
Chet Lotto pick
Giddy Lotto pick
Williams Lotto pick

Portland has 2 lotto picks in their rotation (not counting Malcolm or Deandre since neither were the Blazers pick at the time they were drafted).
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well, SGA wasn't a Thunder pick when he was drafted either, so there's that

the biggest factor is that OKC got a hell of a lot more, SOONER, for PG13 than Portland got for Dame. They got SGA + Gallinari (traded for a 2nd). Meaning their baseline started with a top-10 player that, in and of itself, beats the return Portland got for Dame. And, OKC got FOUR 1st round picks: 18th in 2021 (Tre Mann - looking like a bust); 12th in 2022 (Jalen Williams - quality starter); and two more 1st's in 2024 & 2026; and a 2025 swap option

to summarize, right now, for PG13, OKC has SGA, Jalen Williams, & Tre Mann. For Dame, Portland has Brogdon, Williams, & Camara. Clearly, OKC did better, but as you said, that trade is about 4 years old while Portland's is 7 months old (I counted Nurkic + Little + Keon for Ayton a separate deal....and I don't count it as a very good deal for Portland)

as for lottery picks, yeah, OKC has a leg up the ladder with Giddey. But Jalen Williams + Holmgren is a very fair comparison to Sharpe + Scoot. Both Williams & Sharpe are in their 2nd seasons; both Holmgren and Scoot are rookies. Yes, the OKC duo is a bit older, but there is no experience advantage

Right now, Williams is better than Sharpe; by quite a bit actually. I don't think that advantage will last, but Sharpe is still wildly inconsistent with poor efficiency compared to Williams. The Chet vs Scoot match-up is a giant slam dunk advantage right now for OKC. That probably has more staying power.

if Brogdon is traded for a late 1st and filler, it might end up that OKC traded PG13 for SGA + Williams and Portland traded Dame for Camara + Robert Williams in street clothes. The ancillary picks are about even
 
beast crnjo said:
Are you so sure they wouldn't be better with better coaching? They are not being paid like a basement team. So quite a few NBA GMs have seen the value in our current players.
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I can't see how the team salary has anything to do with coaching. He might suck as a coach, but if players are overpaid that is the GMs issue, not the coach's. And IMO only Ayton is overpaid and we all knew that when we got him.
 
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