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Wizard Mentor said:
Congrats. Your post will get a lot of likes. However, it's full of shit.

The reason we aren't 2-10 right now is that an allstar player has forced his way to Portland - the first time this has happened to Portland, ever, and we got him on the cheap. The reason Grant did this was
1) Damian Lillard (is both on the team, and recruited him during the Olympics)
2) The Blazers didn't really have a PF
3) He has significant ties to Portland

JoeCro has nothing to do with it.
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WTF? Cronin had "nothing to do" with Grant being a Blazer?
 
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Listened to the Terry Stotts interview last night that he just did and it was interesting. They asked him back to do another segment on defensive philosophies and he joked that nobody would be too interested in his defensive ideas after his last two seasons....said he'd visited teams where his assistant coaches had relocated to...spent a lot of time in Chicago, Utah, Milwaukee and Orlando....most of his visit was in Orlando...said he'd like to coach and follows the small market teams ...he watches the Blazers, Bucks, Jazz, Nuggets, Pelicans and several other small market franchises...said he's happy to see the youth movement and the superstar vet teams fall behind for once. Can't remember the link but it's been posted here somewhere. Terry would like to coach again but is happy living in Portland with Jan and their purebred dogs. Going on his walks and enjoying traveling. He doesn't need to work again and seems to love living in Portland. I hope he starts coming to home games....I know he goes to Timbers games
 
riverman said:
Listened to the Terry Stotts interview last night that he just did and it was interesting. They asked him back to do another segment on defensive philosophies and he joked that nobody would be too interested in his defensive ideas after his last two seasons....said he'd visited teams where his assistant coaches had relocated to...spent a lot of time in Chicago, Utah, Milwaukee and Orlando....most of his visit was in Orlando...said he'd like to coach and follows the small market teams ...he watches the Blazers, Bucks, Jazz, Nuggets, Pelicans and several other small market franchises...said he's happy to see the youth movement and the superstar vet teams fall behind for once. Can't remember the link but it's been posted here somewhere. Terry would like to coach again but is happy living in Portland with Jan and their purebred dogs. Going on his walks and enjoying traveling. He doesn't need to work again and seems to love living in Portland. I hope he starts coming to home games....I know he goes to Timbers games
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Would be awesome if we could get him involved with the team somehow.

Maybe another year or two when Chauncey is more established could even explorer having him as an assistant.

Just a great guy and I'll always remember his interview after Dame 0.9
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I wonder how he'd do as a color analyst. I've never been a fan of Holton.
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I think Terry is easy on the ears....he's a calm voice of reason. He's still friends with a lot of people in the organization so I'm sure they'd welcome him on any capacity now that Olshey is gone. I like that he's still a Blazer fan. He's on the last year of his contract and still making millions so I'm sure Terry is in no hurry to go to work. I think the Celtics or Nets should hire him.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I wonder how he'd do as a color analyst. I've never been a fan of Holton.
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Holton was good for about a game and a half. He sometimes has good insight but he muddles it with cliche after cliche and analogy after analogy. Less is more.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Congrats. Your post will get a lot of likes. However, it's full of shit.

The reason we aren't 2-10 right now is that an allstar player has forced his way to Portland - the first time this has happened to Portland, ever, and we got him on the cheap. The reason Grant did this was
1) Damian Lillard (is both on the team, and recruited him during the Olympics)
2) The Blazers didn't really have a PF
3) He has significant ties to Portland

JoeCro has nothing to do with it.
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Speaking of full of shit, Grant has never made an All Star game. Cronin did agree to the opportunity when the stars aligned with Grant, which was one many posters argued strongly against. It's silly to give him zero credit for doing so as there were other viable paths to take.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
Speaking of full of shit, Grant has never made an All Star game. Cronin did agree to the opportunity when the stars aligned with Grant, which was one many posters argued strongly against. It's silly to give him zero credit for doing so as there were other viable paths to take.

STOMP
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no one is giving JoCro zero credit. The Clips trade he made was ballsy. It's just some want to prop him up as a way to insult Olshey, which is dumb.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
no one is giving JoCro zero credit. The Clips trade he made was ballsy. It's just some want to prop him up as a way to insult Olshey, which is dumb.
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I am probably the charter member of the Fire Neil club, but of course he deserves some GM credit too.

I hope Cronin keeps making ballsy moves.

STOMP
 
Wizard Mentor said:
no one is giving JoCro zero credit. The Clips trade he made was ballsy. It's just some want to prop him up as a way to insult Olshey, which is dumb.
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Olshey was a selfish asshole. But he knew talent. He was given too much power here, and that was a mistake. He obviously needed oversight.

He got to covering his own ass and it was all downhill from there.
 
MickZagger said:
Or that it wasn’t Olshey’s fault that he couldn’t acquire any semblance of a defense.
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Apparently that was Stotts' fault.

I agree with @WesleyMatthews above though. I hope the program brings Terry Stotts in and finds something he likes to do.

The dude is Portland personified.

Probably my favorite coach since Rick Adelman. Though I'm liking Billups as well.
 
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MickZagger said:
Or that it wasn’t Olshey’s fault that he couldn’t acquire any semblance of a defense.
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What? Noah Vonleh just signed with one of the league's best teams for his defense. Wenyen Gabriel was also a gifted defender. Both of which got rare opportunities under Stotts. That's just two examples.

I believe the majority of what Olshey got was what Stotts wanted. Most GMs work with their coaches to find what will fit them best.

Stotts clearly valued spreading the floor more than defense. It's why he jokes that no one wants to listen to his analysis of NBA defense.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Apparently that was Stotts' fault.
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Playing Mario Hezonja and Anthony Tolliver in front of Gabriel and Little was definitely his vault. He wouldn't develop of any his guys and rode Damian and CJ to the ground where they got outclassed nearly every series in the playoffs.

He was a loser with two different teams before he got to Portland. He owes his bank account to Damian.
 
AmirIcon said:
What? Noah Vonleh just signed with one of the league's best teams for his defense. Wenyen Gabriel was also a gifted defender. Both of which got rare opportunities under Stotts. That's just two examples.

I believe the majority of what Olshey got was what Stotts wanted. Most GMs work with their coaches to find what will fit them best.

Stotts clearly valued spreading the floor more than defense. It's why he jokes that no one wants to listen to his analysis of NBA defense.
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The GM needs to know what the Coach wants to do and get players who make it work. When Olshey did that we had good defenses. But the guys he brought in were hopeless on offensive or they'd still be in the league.
 
AmirIcon said:
I'd have the same reaction too if I was exposed as not having faith in "my team."
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There's no such thing as getting 'exposed' not trusting your team to get results. Predicting bad results has nothing to do with being a 'bad' fan, you're just expecting your team to do bad which is totally ok.
One might even argue that on the opposite, watching every games of a team you expect to be bad shows Real commitment and fandom.
 
SIeepwalker said:
There's no such thing as getting 'exposed' not trusting your team to get results. Predicting bad results has nothing to do with being a 'bad' fan, you're just expecting your team to do bad which is totally ok.
One might even argue that on the opposite, watching every games of a team you expect to be bad shows Real commitment and fandom.
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His response was one of an insecure person. Tells me he wishes he wasn't so wrong. Nobody said anything about being a "bad fan."
 
AmirIcon said:
Playing Mario Hezonja and Anthony Tolliver in front of Gabriel and Little was definitely his vault. He wouldn't develop of any his guys and rode Damian and CJ to the ground where they got outclassed nearly every series in the playoffs.

He was a loser with two different teams before he got to Portland. He owes his bank account to Damian.
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Little was injured most of the time. Gabriel isn't exactly lighting the world on fire...

It didn't work out forever, but he had a good run, and I loved the vibe in Portland under Stotts. It would make me happy if he were happily here long term in some capacity.
 
Phatguysrule said:
The GM needs to know what the Coach wants to do and get players who make it work. When Olshey did that we had good defenses. But the guys he brought in were hopeless on offensive or they'd still be in the league.
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Has Terry Stotts ever been known for defense? Just like Cronin communicated with Chauncey to get his players, Olshey did the same with Stotts. Stotts never held players accountable for defense because defence was an afterthought. His strategy was to outscore the opponent with his two guards. Olshey got what Stotts wanted.

They both should have gone a lot earlier but I'm glad Olshey gave us Chancey and Watford before he left.
 
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