I guess Bill Simmons is right

[MARIS61]

Yeah, Soccer Dads are violent, aren't they?

Many are: http://sportstwo.com/threads/179069-Soccer-The-sport-of-neanderthals

 

[MARIS61]

Whoa! I hate soccer, but if baseball is a real sport, so is Soccer

It could be a great Special Olympics sport, for the handless and those with autism.

Unlike real team sports, it requires no skill to play.

 

[PapaG]

People in this country are too damn sensitive these days anyway. Seriously, it was a joke by Simmons, get over it. Nobody can say anything anymore without worrying about offending someone.

crandc has always been perpetually aggrieved. I've "known" her for 10 years at least now, and she gets more unbearable in her politically-centric life in each passing year. I do wish her nothing but happiness, because based on her always serious posts, she could use a few laughs.

 

[MARIS61]

I hate it when being called a woman is considered an insult. Ridiculous.

Over-reacting a bit?

Really, how often are you called a woman?

 

[PapaG]

Oh, and Soccer Grandmas are way worse than Soccer Moms in terms of yelling during games.

 

[MARIS61]

I just want to see smiles on their faces, while our wives are all convinced their offspring is the next Mia Hamm.

Mia whom?

 

[andalusian]

Mia whom?

The Sergio Rodriguez of Futabol

 

[dpc]

It could be a great Special Olympics sport, for the handless and those with autism.

Unlike real team sports, it requires no skill to play.

Baseball is NOT a sport at all. Get that through your ancient head. In what other sports can you sit around and do nothing at all. Seriously, it takes no athleticism or cardio at all to sit out in the field all day and chew tobacco. I have all the athleticism and cardio to be a professional baseball player right now. I have no doubt in my mind. The average soccer player runs 6 miles alone in a game. Seriously, even your managers are pathetic. They have to wear the uniform that they used to wear in the 1700's because they can't let go of the fact they can't play anymore. Why can't they play anymore? I really have no idea, because even their old frailly body could handle the rigorous game of baseball.
162 games in a season? If your body can handle 162 games in a season then you are not in a sport.

 

[MARIS61]

162 games in a season? If your body can handle 162 games in a season then you are not in a sport.

If your body can't handle 162 games in a season, you're certainly no athlete.

You're probably a soccer player.

 

[MARIS61]

I have all the athleticism and cardio to be a professional baseball player right now. I have no doubt in my mind.

What's holding you back? Fear of success?

The average soccer player runs 6 miles alone in a game.

The average HS girl's (for crandc) track team runs at least 6 miles a day.

My Jack Russell runs far more than 6 miles a day, and is much more agile than any soccer player.

I don't know many people who can't run 6 miles. It requires little to no athleticism at all. Only a soccer fan would think it was something out of the ordinary.

 

[MARIS61]

The Sergio Rodriguez of Futabol

Damn! That girl must be good!

 

[MickZagger]

It could be a great Special Olympics sport, for the handless and those with autism.

Unlike real team sports, it requires no skill to play.

lol, I'm sorry. But, that first line almost had me choking on my sandwich.

 

[dpc]

What's holding you back? Fear of success?

No, i like sports. Thats whats holding me back.

 

[PapaG]

Baseball is NOT a sport at all. Get that through your ancient head. In what other sports can you sit around and do nothing at all. Seriously, it takes no athleticism or cardio at all to sit out in the field all day and chew tobacco. I have all the athleticism and cardio to be a professional baseball player right now. I have no doubt in my mind. The average soccer player runs 6 miles alone in a game. Seriously, even your managers are pathetic. They have to wear the uniform that they used to wear in the 1700's because they can't let go of the fact they can't play anymore. Why can't they play anymore? I really have no idea, because even their old frailly body could handle the rigorous game of baseball.
162 games in a season? If your body can handle 162 games in a season then you are not in a sport.

So, if you're that sure about it, go sign a $20 million contract.

Meanwhile, MLS teams lose to amateur teams in the US CUP on a regular basis. Being a decent cross country athlete who can kick a ball means nothing to me. It's like being a human deer, but slower. Meanwhile, I've never seen a deer hit a 98 mph fastball 450' with a bat.

 

[RoyToy]

The average soccer player runs 6 miles alone in a game.

6 miles in 90 minutes with a break in the middle and during various parts of the game

That's not that impressive, especially for a professional athlete

 

[Wheels]

6 miles in 90 minutes with a break in the middle and during various parts of the game

That's not that impressive, especially for a professional athlete

I've read 5 miles is average for a Basketball player as well... I'd say they are elite athletes as well, but there are more stops with them moving around. Plus when they are winded they can come out, and go back in.

 

[Wheels]

Meanwhile, MLS teams lose to amateur teams in the US CUP on a regular basis.

This sounds like more of an argument of quality of play. Not sure what this has to do with athleticism.

 

[Steelblazer]

Yes, but soccer moms don't rail into their kids when they lose and demand that they be traded to another family.

You, my friend, have obviously never met my wife. I've had my kid offered for a future second round pick, a puppy, a diet coke, and cash considerations.

 

[MickZagger]

So, if you're that sure about it, go sign a $20 million contract.

Meanwhile, MLS teams lose to amateur teams in the US CUP on a regular basis. Being a decent cross country athlete who can kick a ball means nothing to me. It's like being a human deer, but slower. Meanwhile, I've never seen a deer hit a 98 mph fastball 450' with a bat.

Having played baseball through high school, hand eye coordination when it comes to hitting is absolutely athleticism. Athleticism is not just running and jumping like people want to percieve it. I believe Steve Nash is every bit as athletic as LeBron, he just wasn't blessed with the genetics that Lebron was.

I'd love to see a soccer player stand in a batters box and try and hit a 90mph fastball. Shit, it'd be fun to watch them look silly attempting to hit a curveball. I played 3rd base, I'd love to see a soccer player try and snag a ground ball that a righty pulled down the line.

Anybody can run around and kick a soccer ball.

 

[Natebishop3]

This pissing contest between sports is pretty hilarious. I only have one thing to add: NASCAR is not a sport.

 

[james3921]

This pissing contest between sports is pretty hilarious. I only have one thing to add: NASCAR is not a sport.

I think we all agree on this.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

This pissing contest between sports is pretty hilarious. I only have one thing to add: NASCAR is not a sport.

I think we all agree on this.

I dunno, those drivers get pretty dehydrated over the course of a 3-hour race, and it's not from pissing down their legs. I've never tried to maneuver a 3,400 lb machine through traffic at 185-mph, but I imagine it's actually pretty taxing physically. Not to mention the mental stress of knowing that your life is continually at risk throughout the entire competition, and that a single wrong move could result in not only your own death but also that of another competitor.

Count me among the minority who does not agree on this.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

So, if you're that sure about it, go sign a $20 million contract.

Meanwhile, MLS teams lose to amateur teams in the US CUP on a regular basis. Being a decent cross country athlete who can kick a ball means nothing to me. It's like being a human deer, but slower. Meanwhile, I've never seen a deer hit a 98 mph fastball 450' with a bat.

Ha ha that's not true.

 

[Wheels]

Anybody can run around and kick a soccer ball.

This argument I always found funny. Isnt it like saying Anyone can run around and Throw a ball at a net? Thats whats done in Basketball. No one is saying there isnt skill involved in Baseball. I also find it funny when people act like there is no skill involved in playing soccer at a high level.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

This argument I always found funny. Isnt it like saying Anyone can run around and Throw a ball at a net? Thats whats done in Basketball.

Well, not really. I can put a soccer ball in front of a two-year-old and tell him to kick it, and he can get the ball from one side of the soccer field to the other and kick it through the goal posts. But tell the same two-year-old to bounce a basketball with one hand while walking from one side of the basketball court to the other and throw the ball through the 10'-high hoop, and he'll have much less success.

 

[Wheels]

Well, not really. I can put a soccer ball in front of a two-year-old and tell him to kick it, and he can get the ball from one side of the soccer field to the other and kick it through the goal posts. But tell the same two-year-old to bounce a basketball with one hand while walking from one side of the basketball court to the other and throw the ball through the 10'-high hoop, and he'll have much less success.

Still sounds like thats arguing skill involved... I dunno maybe like me telling someone to make passes with a Basketball or shoot with out the use of opposable thumbs or even dribble it against defense without their use. Its still moving a ball towards a net correct?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Still sounds like thats arguing skill involved... I dunno maybe like me telling someone to make passes with a Basketball or shoot with out the use of opposable thumbs or even dribble it against defense without their use. Its still moving a ball towards a net correct?

Obviously being competitive in either at a high level requires a lot of skill, but that can be said of anything. My point was that the most basic method of moving a soccer ball up and down the field requires no more rudimentary motor skill than is possessed by an average toddler, whereas the most basic method of moving a basketball up and down the court requires a greater degree of coordination. This (in my mind) was what Mick was referring to when he made his statement.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Hey Wheels how's it going bro?

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Obviously being competitive in either at a high level requires a lot of skill, but that can be said of anything. My point was that the most basic method of moving a soccer ball up and down the field requires no more rudimentary motor skill than is possessed by an average toddler, whereas the most basic method of moving a basketball up and down the court requires a greater degree of coordination. This (in my mind) was what Mick was referring to when he made his statement.

The same toddler could carry a football the length of a football field much faster than he could kick it down there, therefore soccer requires much more skill than football, thanks for clearing that up for us.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The same toddler could carry a football the length of a football field much faster than he could kick it down there, therefore soccer requires much more skill than football, thanks for clearing that up for us.

Yeah, I would say that the basic job of a running back is based almost exclusively on speed and power rather than skill. No argument here. What was your point exactly?