Zombie I just chewed out a panhandler.

[Colonel Ronan]

Someone should put a quote from this thread in their sig and put underneath:

"Grown man acting like an absolute douchebag and making himself look like the most immature poster since OIG."

 

[BenDavis503]

I have three reasons for you.

1. You work with a bunch of like minded morons or...

2. They dont give a shit about what you have to say so they just agree with you to end the conversation as soon as possible. (most likely)

.... Nobody likes getting into heated arguments face to face. You are faceless on the internet for the most part and can say exactly how you feel without worrying about some moron physically attacking you.

Good point!!

BD, personally, I agree with your views on PH's. I don't go out of my way to talk shit to 'em, but when I get the looks or words (or they intentionally position themselves in my path or my car's path) for not giving up my hard-earned dough, I'm gonna say something.

Two reasons posters on here think you're an asshole for the encounter: 1, the way you posted it and asked if you were wrong, as if you were seeking validation from the jerk-offs on this board; 2, let's face it, you pretty much egged the PH on.

Personally, if you're going to sit out and beg for change, you're setting yourself up for that kind of shit. I mean, spend your time trying to get a job. I've known plenty of people in shitty situations who did anything and everything they could to get a job, and they've busted ass to get even a minimum wage job before begging for change.

YES!!!! This is EXACTLY what dude next to me had to go threw. He busted his ASS (and his girl busted her ass) to get any paying job they could get, got a trailer, worked more, saved more, got a little better trailer, worked more, saved more finally got an apt. Blah blah blah, now he works with me at the software company, makes good money, has his own house in a nice city.

I told him my story and he said GOOD! Maybe that panhandler will get some motivation now and get a real job!

 

[Eastoff]

There is a big shelter downtown, but the homeless, just like everyone else, find it disgusting. You shouldn't antagonize them, but if he is a druggy (like a disproportionate amount are) he has a much bigger issue. There are some people who are homeless by choice, but most have some problem (see: druggy) that prevents them from putting their life back together.

And yes, Beaverton is a gross sprawl of poor urban planning.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Having worked with homelessness/drug addicts, it's fair to say most homeless individuals have disabilities and/or drug addictions.

I'm sure the ratio of those with disabilities/addictions has decreased in comparison to non-disabled/non-addicts in this economy, however.

 

[BenDavis503]

Why don't you offer them some help on how to try and get a job? Why don't you take them to a shelter, and offer them another alternative than panhandling for money? What part of town does it matter that they panhandle in? Why do you encourage panhandling in another part of town - that doesn't help eliminate panhandling, and is just enabling the problem where you simply don't see it.

How do you know they don't have a car? They could have a broken down car that needs gas on another part of town that they sleep in.

Why do you want only the cops to do this? Because it's easier for you to yell and intimidate than do the exact things you say the cops should do?

You don't need a badge to help out the homeless.

I understand, can agree with and respect everything you said. But, I do know for a fact, this person does not have a car. They sit at the Fred Meyer with the gas sign almost every day for the last 2 weeks. You think they would have enough gas money to get where they are going now?!

I think you are a good person from the things you have said to me today. I hope someday I can have a kind heart like you do. No sarcasm. I am being serious.

Meh, perhaps I just don't have interest in what you say.

For for I know you could be saying:

I'm a tough internet guy. I can hack anything, I threaten to hack people's accounts, I make up bullshit stories about my life, I'm a meat head and swear at homeless people.

lol tell me a story I made up about my life?! lol funny. And obviously you read what I say! You just quoted me word for word!

All of these "so-called" shelters cost taxpayer dollars, and isn't that exactly what Republicans don't really wanna pay for? IDK, that always comes across that way to me.

Maybe thats where the "Go vote for Bush" comments came from.

I doubt ABM would engage in a conversation in the same manner you did with the homeless man.

Maybe your co-workers tell you that in response because they don't have the energy to deal with the anger you display towards people who are down on their luck or have made some poor decisions in life. You've made some poor decisions today but you don't see anyone here threatening to steal things from you or physically remove you from a spot.

Maybe. But the group of co workers I told are close friends of mine. Like, we hang out outside of work. Maybe thats why they agreed with me lol

Nobody here is saying they like Panhandlers in their neighborhood...

Then why was it so wrong of me to say something to they guy?! You don't like something, you speak up, right?

The analogy still doesn't work if you substitute 'lawn' for 'park' as they are neither under your territorial jurisdiction. You do not own the park so you have no right to police the park. And I'm the dimwit for understanding this basic concept?

What you did to the homeless man was menacing. It's menacing to verbally harass another person who has done nothing illegal to warrant it. It's another simple concept that you are missing. And yes, I do hope that somebody puts you in your place the next time you choose to menace them.

lol you and I just are not connecting lol

Let me try to put it in Tracy McGradys sons name for you.

Panhandler = dog shit.
Fred Meyer parking lot = the park the dog shit on.
I do not like dog shit where I shop.
I do not own the park.

Do you get it now? Is that so hard? You are resting on the ownership of the land lol and not the PRINCIPLE. You are just being a *personal attack* but its cool homie. lol you do you lol

 

[bintim]

I have a little more empathy for some of the panhandlers now that I haven't worked for six months. I sometimes give money, depends on my gut feeling mostly, probably one in ten. I have been blessed with help when I needed it. I believe that what goes around comes around.

I have some stories about my life that are very sad also. I used to be angry all the time because it was the only feeling I could identify with. If I was in this situation a couple of decades back, my head would have exploded. Now I just try to be thankful for what I have. Doesn't always work, but I haven't felt like my head was going to explode for quite a while now. The PROZAC doesn't hurt either.

 

[BenDavis503]

There is a big shelter downtown, but the homeless, just like everyone else, find it disgusting. You shouldn't antagonize them, but if he is a druggy (like a disproportionate amount are) he has a much bigger issue. There are some people who are homeless by choice, but most have some problem (see: druggy) that prevents them from putting their life back together.

And yes, Beaverton is a gross sprawl of poor urban planning.

I can agree with I shouldn't have antagonized him, but what about the people he is bothering standing there? I am POSITIVE that he bothers other people, they just don't have the guts to say anything.

Having worked with homelessness/drug addicts, it's fair to say most homeless individuals have disabilities and/or drug addictions.

I'm sure the ratio of those with disabilities/addictions has decreased in comparison to non-disabled/non-addicts in this economy, however.

Yes!!! And it drives me insane that people still give panhandlers money!!! You cannot tell me that most of them are just going to buy drugs or alcohol!!!!

Have you guys heard the story about the panhandler who had a house, a BMW and a nice job? He was just panhandling to make more money and he was coining around 5 G a month extra from it?! That is BS!!!!!!!

If you need money so bad, go pump gas! Wash dishes! Get a paper route! Go work for a homeless shelter and help others! Work at Goodwill! Salvation Army! There are options!!!!!

 

[BenDavis503]

I have a little more empathy for some of the panhandlers now that I haven't worked for six months. I sometimes give money, depends on my gut feeling mostly, probably one in ten. I have been blessed with help when I needed it. I believe that what goes around comes around.

I have some stories about my life that are very sad also. I used to be angry all the time because it was the only feeling I could identify with. If I was in this situation a couple of decades back, my head would have exploded. Now I just try to be thankful for what I have. Doesn't always work, but I haven't felt like my head was going to explode for quite a while now.

I have been out of work before. It sucks. But I would NEVER consider panhandling. I would do Labor Ready every day at 4am before that. In fact I did do that. I worked as a pool boy for a while. I worked in a plastic factory for a while. I worked some SHITTY jobs!!!! But I worked! And then I got a little better job, little better, then now I have my great job!!!!

Success by any measure takes work. Panhandling is not working.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

lol tell me a story I made up about my life?! lol funny. And obviously you read what I say! You just quoted me word for word!

Hence the "joke".

 

[MickZagger]

lol, Beaverton isn't nice, its been a shithole for about 10 years now. There's pockets that are nice, sure, but for the most part its garbage. Panhandlers are everywhere, especially areas they percieve as wealthy.

I don't know too many people that feel like they've done their "justice" by making a panhandler feel like shit. Personally, I don't even acknowledge their existence when they are panhandling so they don't bother me at all.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Wow. BenDavis, nobody gives a shit on how you let how your spurg-rage. Now I remember why this community ran you out a couple years ago.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Wow. BenDavis, nobody gives a shit on how you let how your spurg-rage. Now I remember why this community ran you out a couple years ago.

I actually think it is a good thing that he is conversing with others about this and asking if it was okay. Yes, I know that he has not and will not change his opinion, but this seems like his way of getting through things. If you don't give a shit, don't post in the thread. It is that simple.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

And BenDavis503, I would actually guess that most people don't care too much about panhandlers being there, they can ignore them. Even if you think he hasn't tried making his life better, you don't know ANYTHING about his life (well now you know he worked for Intel and his mom went to Stanford..). I always feel bad for them but maybe I'm just a sympathetic 17 year old. I don't know. You were asking for opinions so my opinion is that what you did was wrong. You talked about your children being afraid, but if you were my father and I saw you do that or heard about you doing it, I would be ashamed.

 

[ucatchtrout]

Ben....

I hate to go biblical on this one, but the situation calls for it.

"Judge not, lest ye also be judged".

The wisdom in that is universal, no matter which brand of religion you choose....or even if you choose none.

Try being a little kinder towards others. The anger thing gets tiresome, and it consumes a lot of energy you could direct elsewhere in your life.

peace, and happy new years!

 

[Sug]

I think you have an anger problem, I have never in my life seen or heard about anyone doing what you did. It is about as anti-humanity as you can get, and it certainly paints a clear picture about your intelligence. First off I live in SE Portland, and I can tell you that I have never encountered a pan handler in my neighborhood. There is a lot I could say, but all I will say is this: follow the golden rule.

 

[drexlersdad]

he had every right to open up your gills with his boxcutter.

youre gonna run out of luck if you keep this shit up.

 

[DaRizzle]

youre gonna run out of luck if you keep this shit up.

like we could be so lucky

 

[BlazerWookee]

You do know that you can't actually throw shit at someone through a private message, right? It just sticks to the screen, and your hands start to smell.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to julius again.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

A lot of them are aggressive. The 'street kids' in particular. You walk by and say you don't have anything to give they always have a reply and it's something along these lines: "Well, FUCK YOU then". I'm so sorry I can't support their heroin habit.

 

[BlazerWookee]

And BenDavis503, I would actually guess that most people don't care too much about panhandlers being there, they can ignore them. Even if you think he hasn't tried making his life better, you don't know ANYTHING about his life (well now you know he worked for Intel and his mom went to Stanford..). I always feel bad for them but maybe I'm just a sympathetic 17 year old. I don't know. You were asking for opinions so my opinion is that what you did was wrong. You talked about your children being afraid, but if you were my father and I saw you do that or heard about you doing it, I would be ashamed.

This.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I do. They pick through my garbage so I have more room later.



Too soon?

To soon to rep?

 

[BlazerWookee]

A lot of them are aggressive. The 'street kids' in particular. You walk by and say you don't have anything to give they always have a reply and it's something along these lines: "Well, FUCK YOU then". I'm so sorry I can't support their heroin habit.

If this was how it started, then I'd be virtually high-fiving BD for going off on the guy. But BD was driving by, saw the guy, parked his car, and went over to confront him.

BD, you should seek help for your anger issues. You made some long strides recently, but it sounds like you're slipping. I just hope your son wasn't with you at the time you decided to go off like that. Trust me when I say this, seeing your father being an asshole to random people when you're very young leaves a mark.

 

[Sug]

If this was how it started, then I'd be virtually high-fiving BD for going off on the guy. But BD was driving by, saw the guy, parked his car, and went over to confront him.

BD, you should seek help for your anger issues. You made some long strides recently, but it sounds like you're slipping. I just hope your son wasn't with you at the time you decided to go off like that. Trust me when I say this, seeing your father being an asshole to random people when you're very young leaves a mark.

Wookee I am sorry that you had to witness your father rip the arms off of droids.:dancewookiee::dancewookiee:

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Wookee I am sorry that you had to witness your father rip the arms off of droids.:dancewookiee::dancewookiee:

Hahaha

 

[Stevenson]

Was that wrong? I don't think so. I think I have ALL the right in the world to defend my town, to defend my turf and to express to the low lives that are making my town look like shit. If someone was walking their dog and they shit on your lawn, wouldn't you do something about it?

And what is with the 'vote for Bush' references?! I don't get it.

I hope you never get down on your luck because your karma will be a bitch. You sound crude, mean, uncaring and insensitive to me.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Wookee I am sorry that you had to witness your father rip the arms off of droids.:dancewookiee::dancewookiee:

The guy who sold my therapist his yacht sure isn't sorry...

 

[Rodolfo]

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[BasX]

This site is fuckin awesome.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

To soon to rep?

Never!

 

[Blazed Mania 52]

Is that wrong? I live in Beaverton. 158th and Cornell area. (Come see me if you want PapaG)

I have lived in this area for a good 10 years now in a row, even more when I was a kid. I am starting to see more and more panhandlers and they are getting closer and closer to stores and shopping centers, further away from the freeways.

I HATE PANHANDLERS.

So, after I was a little fired up from the OT threads with PapaG, I chose to tell this person how I felt. I parked my car, got out and this is close to how it went.


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Was that wrong? I don't think so. I think I have ALL the right in the world to defend my town, to defend my turf and to express to the low lives that are making my town look like shit. If someone was walking their dog and they shit on your lawn, wouldn't you do something about it?

And what is with the 'vote for Bush' references?! I don't get it.

Its ignorance like yours that makes the world a better place for everyone.

I'm proud of your heroic behavior in a time of of great distress.

Oh and while your at it can you take care of those god-damn cripples for me, I want to see no handicapped degenerates withering away on my streets, ON MY TURF!