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riverman said:
I'm really in the camp of trading Ant to Chicago for DeRozan and the freeing up of our future firsts....DeRozan would be a vet Dame values playing with. I'd also kick the tires on Harrison Barnes if possible.
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I like the DDR idea more. I thought I saw a stat that for their career, DDR has better #s than PG13 (too lazy verify), best teammate for Dame since Aldridge. Ant is 10 years younger so I actually think this is a good trade for them
 
inconceivable said:
I like the DDR idea more. I thought I saw a stat that for their career, DDR has better #s than PG13 (too lazy verify), best teammate for Dame since Aldridge. Ant is 10 years younger so I actually think this is a good trade for them
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if you go by this season, and compare DDR to Siakam, Bridges, and Brown, DDR has the best winshare, winshare/48, and PER among the 4 players

DDR was an all-star both of the last 2 years averaging 26-5-5 over 150 games

I don't know if Chicago would do the trade. And I don't know if Portland has asked, but if they haven't, Cronin is missing an opportunity. Dame and DDR are friends and DDR is a versatile wing, the kind of player that would match Dame well
 
riverman said:
I'm really in the camp of trading Ant to Chicago for DeRozan and the freeing up of our future firsts....DeRozan would be a vet Dame values playing with. I'd also kick the tires on Harrison Barnes if possible.
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If Dame is staying Ant for DDR would be very smart. We'd have a small starting lineup around Nurk but maybe that could work given that Nurk is so huge and doesn't move so well.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Ant is a 6th man on a title team.

I don’t see why you couldn’t continue to build with him, even with his contact

PG: Scoot
SG: Sharpe
6th Man: Simons
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The Blazers lost a title to a microwave. People never learn shit. To be fair, if I was Ant I would request a trade away from this fanbase.
 
blazerkor said:
If Dame is staying Ant for DDR would be very smart. We'd have a small starting lineup around Nurk but maybe that could work given that Nurk is so huge and doesn't move so well.
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I wish that Toronto wasn't being so fucking annoying. OG makes so much sense. He's only 25. He fits both timelines.

I'd toss Ant/Little/future pick for OG and Boucher.
 
AmirIcon said:
Maybe if we can get Caruso back but I don't love it. What about Ant for Herb Jones since they're looking for a PG?
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Caruso is good but I would not turn down a trade because of him. We don't have minutes for the guards we already have.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I wish that Toronto wasn't being so fucking annoying. OG makes so much sense. He's only 25. He fits both timelines.

I'd toss Ant/Little/future pick for OG and Boucher.
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I think it's going to come down to Ant or D. Murray from Atlanta. They're looking for a point guard and they desperately need shooting. Ant would be a perfect match.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Ant is a 6th man on a title team.

I don’t see why you couldn’t continue to build with him, even with his contact

PG: Scoot
SG: Sharpe
6th Man: Simons
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If your moving on from Dame you could make a strong argument to keep Simons if he buys into that 6th man role. If your going to keep rolling with Dame you have got to move Ant for a good veteran upgrade and I too like DDR.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
That means Dame HAS to go. At this point its either Dame or Ant
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If I had to choose between Ant and Dame that would be one of the easiest choices of my life and it would be Dame every time. That being said, if Dame wants out I might have a talk with Ant about backing up both Scoot and Shae, if he has any doubts about it then I would trade Ant immediately.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Two picks seems a little steep honestly.
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I don't read it as two picks

to me, it says "2023 first round pick via NY, OR 2026 pick, top 4 protected".

that seems fine to me, except for the 'fact' that it would still cost two first's because for Portland to free up that 2026 first, they almost certainly have to guarantee next year's pick to Chicago. Blazers might be able to add top-4 or top-7 protection to that guarantee, but Chicago would have the power.

now, thanks to that fucking bozo Olshey the Blazers will have to give up a 1st to Chicago eventually, so maybe it's about time to do so next draft. It's risky though for a team that just had the 5th worst record....unless, as I said, the Blazers can get at least top-4 protection

It might be worth it for OG, but I just can't shake the notion he's rather overrated. He'd fit well in Portland though. But I will say Toronto can go somewhere warm and pound sand because the Blazers would be fools to only add top-4 protection, not for a player like OG
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
That means Dame HAS to go. At this point its either Dame or Ant
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I think what it means is when people go thru illogical contortions to justify keeping Ant, it's just further proof that Ant needs to go.

there are two giant red lights working together to stop Ant from fitting in his natural role of a 6th-7th man: the first is his 25M/year contract, now 26M/year; the second is the new 2nd apron rule. Teams will be spending the big bucks on their core players; and they will be cutting costs on the role players. Ant is not a core player, he's role. He'd be 6th man luxury almost no team would buy. And at this point, he's way too flawed and limited as a starter to have wide value

Portland's best bet is probably trading him to a team who thinks he can play the PG position because they have good facilitators elsewhere. That's where Toronto fits because Siakam and Barnes averaged nearly 11 assists a game last year. Ant isn't the PG or defender FVV is, but he's a much better and more efficient shooter, which opens up space for Siakam & Barnes

I just don't believe Portland will spend much time trying to deal with Masai Ujiri
 
We all agree that you don’t keep and make this pick unless you plan on trading Simons, right?
 
I still think that you need to package Simons and Nurk together (because Nurk is honestly on a great contract) and look at getting someone like Ayton or Turner in return. On paper maybe it looks like a loss to some, because we lose our starting center and guard which was supposed to fill the loss of CJ. But he can’t do it, he’s not the one FAM. Yes, he’s talented… But he’s not the one. I don’t even like to say negative of any Blazers player because it’s like ….. but moving on from Simons AND Nurk is the true play to shake things up and try to take it to the next level with Dame.

I can’t even with some of the trade chatter. Like if the dude wants out…. I tell you what, if Dame wants out we are screwed. Because I really do believe that Dame wants to win a championship here. There will come a day when the Lillard’s, Antentekoumpo’s, Nowitzki’s, Duncan’s, etc… are looked back upon as an elite class of their own. Separate from the Lebrons and Durants.

Don’t blame me…..

If you want us to trade Dame, and I’ve seen it on here. Bro don’t blame me, and don’t be saying stuff like “Boo hoo, we deserved to lose this game, nobody even tried to defend Dame and you wonder why he put up 53”.

“Scoot Henderson can’t shoot 3’s at all, trade him for Lamelo Ball”

If you actually want us to trade Dame I legitimately question how I feel about you. I think we need to get @barfo and have you walk the plank.

As a matter of fact, what does @barfo think about all of this?

And for what it’s worth… It doesn’t matter where Dame plays. He’s not going to stop. Put him on the worst team, he makes them better. Put him on the best team, he makes them better. Put Dame on any team in the league and he makes them better. Convince me otherwise…
 
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BigGameDamian said:
Would anyone trade Simons and Knox to the Sixers got Tobias Harris?
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If the rumor earlier today is true we'd have to include roughly the rest of our picks until the sun burns out to get Morey to accept. That's probably an overpay for Harris in my eyes (but I do value him).
 
glazeduck said:
If the rumor earlier today is true we'd have to include roughly the rest of our picks until the sun burns out to get Morey to accept. That's probably an overpay for Harris in my eyes (but I do value him).
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I’m not sure who annoys me more…. Morey or Ujiri.
 
People are going to absolutely HATE this idea...

But Nurk + Ant for Ben Simmons and Claxton straight up works $ wise...

Can you convince Dame that Simmons is salvageable into at least a Draymond like role player?
 
Natebishop3 said:
I’m not sure who annoys me more…. Morey or Ujiri.
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Masai is a genuinely nice person. I think the ring has gone to his head a bit, but he's not a jackass, so much as extremely confident -- probably to a fault when it comes to trade valuations.

Morey on the other hand, is... well let's just say he's extremely impressed with himself and has no problem letting anyone and everyone know it.
 
glazeduck said:
People are going to absolutely HATE this idea...

But Nurk + Ant for Ben Simmons and Claxton straight up works $ wise...

Can you convince Dame that Simmons is salvageable into at least a Draymond like role player?
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Just what you want, Shaedon and Scoot mingling with Simmons. That's a no dog.
 
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