If CJ were to be traded, who are we most likely to get?

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pougie said:
Overall, I like it. But I also don’t know why Miami would even be shopping Jimmy right now.
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Maybe for the same reason, his other 3 teams did. I am not sure what the problem is with Jimmy, or if there is a problem,
but for a defensive star, I often see him dominate the ball on offense. He doesn't shoot too much, but he does seem to dribble a lot.
Maybe the coaches want him to but I can't but help wonder if he just likes to control the ball.

Miami's offense in the Bubble was great. Miami's offense this year against the Bucks was ugly. And from what I saw it was Jimmy trying to run the show.
He also shot like shit. 4-17, 7-17, 4-10, 4-22. Is Jimmy coachable? He seems like an arrogant guy who thinks he is better on offense than he actually is.
Maybe Dame could control him. I just think he would work best if he was happy being the 3rd option on offense. But is he really ever happy?
 
Depending on the result of the 6ers/Hawks series, Ben Simmons has to be the guy we get. Paul George now not available. If the Bucks win vs Brooklyn, there’s almost no way they trade Middleton. Ben is pretty much at the lowest value he’s ever been at and will probably be the most attainable star. He’s big enough to play center, we have to play him at C unless Zach can work his way back into the starting lineup.

D’Antoni coaching a Dame/Norm/Covington/______/Simmons starting lineup I wouldn’t mind. Let Simmons handle the ball in the open court and Dame handle the ball in the half court. Simmons just can’t be your primary ball handler in the half court but he’s a better playmaker than Nurk and can literally guard 1-5.

Hypothetically, if Stotts was still the coach and we got Simmons, would he attempt any more 3s than he has in Phili? Dude just loves the NBA lifestyle but unfortunately he’s always on social media and in an age of memes, an attempted-and-missed 3 means a lot more to him than it should. There’s pretty much no other way to play him and have success other than at PF, with a C who can catch and shoot, or at C.

At this point, his value is so low (the guys going back to Phili in trade suggestions from an article I read this morning: Mike Conley sign-and-trade, John Wall, Demar Derozan sign-and-trade, Kevin Love) that I think it would be worth it. If Dame still wants to leave in say a year or two, Ben and Dame traded away has to be able to net us close to 10 1sts.
 
OK, this is one is pretty far out there. But what if we can't find a trade where we add assets to CJ and try to get a better player and better fit? Lakers could really use a good SG. I just saw that Kuzma is on his way out of LA.. He hasn't turned out to be the player he once seemed he might be, doesn't shoot threes particularly well and only 70% on FT's. Average defender. But we could sure improve our depth. Would require something like Kuzma, Harrel, Horton-Tucker or Caruso and Kaldwell Pope (to make salaries match).
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
OK, this is one is pretty far out there. But what if we can't find a trade where we add assets to CJ and try to get a better player and better fit? Lakers could really use a good SG. I just saw that Kuzma is on his way out of LA.. He hasn't turned out to be the player he once seemed he might be, doesn't shoot threes particularly well and only 70% on FT's. Average defender. But we could sure improve our depth. Would require something like Kuzma, Harrel, Horton-Tucker or Caruso and Kaldwell Pope (to make salaries match).
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You’re right, that IS pretty far out there. Like...yikes, no thank you. Why exactly would this trade be better than one with NY where we would most likely get back one of their young guys and at least one 1st and some salary space? Harrell isn’t even better than Kanter. Kuzma isn’t a starter. KCP is a decent 3-D guy but isn’t better than Powell. I’d rather give Simons minutes than THT. Caruso, fine, but he can’t be the best piece coming back in a CJ deal. And not a single 1st coming back with that pile of hot garbäge.

I don’t see this move as improving our depth at all.
 
THT is the only Laker worth anything on that entire roster aside from AD/Bron.

ick :shitstorm:
 
I don’t want “clutch” Simmons! Coach just benched him with 54 seconds and the ball?

pass
 
Tobías Harris “could” be good but he’s not aggressive enough

pass
 
Ok….if you want Simmons, straight up for CJ - maybe throw in Lou Williams - but CJ is better than Simmons and I’m not a CJ fan
 
The problem we have if we do a CJ for Simmons trade is who is our #2 scorer?

Perhaps there would be others trades as well or someone else may step up (Nas? Ant?)
 
Here's my take on CJ v Simmons:

Simmons is a better player, but at the end of games, he'll neutralize Dame. His work ethic is also a question mark.

Our 2nd best player is massively flawed, and because of that we have to strongly consider a trade that will come with some serious downside.
 
CJ and DJJ and H. Giles III plus a second round pick

for

Simmons and Curry


Sign Powell, Kanter and Melo

Dame / Curry
Powell / Simons / Elleby
RoCo / Little / draft
Simmons / Collins / Melo
Nurkic / Kanter / vet or draft


Tradable players at 2022 trade deadline

RoCo / Nurkic / Powell
 
Scalma said:
The anti Simmons brigade: you know we’re talking about McCollum right? You telling me this lineup isn’t better than what we have right now?

dame
Powell
Roco
Simmons
Nurk

Really?
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That would be a lineup that would be interesting. Big, talented, and capable offensively, defensively and on the glass.

Whether Simmons would be a 3 or 4 isn't really relevant... he'd take ballhandling pressure off of Dame and he would be able to guard a variety of guys depending on the opponent.
 
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