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I think we need a thread to consolidate trade rumors. I have no idea who this guy is but according to his twitter he has called stuff before.
 
illmatic99 said:


I think we need a thread to consolidate trade rumors. I have no idea who this guy is but according to his twitter he has called stuff before.
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Thank goodness that Smart's contract doesn't come close to matching CJ's... we don't need more short guards... that's not what this team needs. Good grief.
 
blazerkor said:
Thank goodness that Smart's contract doesn't come close to matching CJ's... we don't need more short guards... that's not what this team needs. Good grief.
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Not a huge Marcus Smart fan but how is his size an issue? 222 lb guard with a 6'9" inch wingspan who is an excellent defender.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Not a huge Marcus Smart fan but how is his size an issue? 222 lb guard with a 6'9" inch wingspan who is an excellent defender.
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Did you see what happened to Norm when he tried to defend a real forward during the Denver series... he got slaughtered. If we needed another good guard, this would be great but Marcus Smart never has to defend guys bigger than him because the Celtics haven't ever bought into the nonsense that is "positionless basketball". That shit is all well and good on offense but you just can't roll out a bunch of short dudes on D. Marcus Smart and Norman Powell will get eaten up by 90% of starting small forwards in this league. They are both guards and they aren't even big guards.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Not a huge Marcus Smart fan but how is his size an issue? 222 lb guard with a 6'9" inch wingspan who is an excellent defender.
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How comparable are Smart & Powell? Powell I believe is a better shooter. I know Smart played a lot of PG too and does hand out assist.
 
illmatic99 said:


I think we need a thread to consolidate trade rumors. I have no idea who this guy is but according to his twitter he has called stuff before.
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if one of the pieces was Robert Williams, that might be interesting. If another component was reducing Portland's cap by 10-12M, that would also be attractive

but probably not enough to mask the disappointment of spending all this time talking about Simmons and Siakam to only end up with Smart
 
illmatic99 said:


I think we need a thread to consolidate trade rumors. I have no idea who this guy is but according to his twitter he has called stuff before.
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They just traded for Josh Richardson
 
wizenheimer said:
if one of the pieces was Robert Williams, that might be interesting. If another component was reducing Portland's cap by 10-12M, that would also be attractive

but probably not enough to mask the disappointment of spending all this time talking about Simmons and Siakam to only end up with Smart
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agree with this
 
wizenheimer said:
if one of the pieces was Robert Williams, that might be interesting. If another component was reducing Portland's cap by 10-12M, that would also be attractive

but probably not enough to mask the disappointment of spending all this time talking about Simmons and Siakam to only end up with Smart
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I'd rather have Siakam or Simmons than capspace
 
illmatic99 said:


I think we need a thread to consolidate trade rumors. I have no idea who this guy is but according to his twitter he has called stuff before.
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What "pieces" do the Celtics have that would make up the SEVENTEEN MILLION difference in salaries?

I like Smart a lot... but I would be disappointed if we lost CJ for just him.
 
wizenheimer said:
if one of the pieces was Robert Williams, that might be interesting. If another component was reducing Portland's cap by 10-12M, that would also be attractive

but probably not enough to mask the disappointment of spending all this time talking about Simmons and Siakam to only end up with Smart
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What other pieces, Nesmith? Langford? Picks? (Any picks will be shit with CJ, Brown, and Tatum on their team) I don't like it.

Steven's probably trying to get us to take Horford. Fuck that.

Jaylen Brown or he can fuck off
 
Chris Craig said:
I'd rather have Siakam or Simmons than capspace
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sure....but I think the chances either ends up a Blazer are fairly small. While the chances that Dame demands a trade if Portland just runs it back and fails again are high. He might not even wait for them to fail

problem is Smart, CJ. and Powell are all SG's. I don't think having two is a good idea, anymore than playing Powell at out of position at SF was a good idea
 
wizenheimer said:
sure....but I think the chances either ends up a Blazer are fairly small. While the chances that Dame demands a trade if Portland just runs it back and fails again are high. He might not even wait for them to fail

problem is Smart, CJ. and Powell are all SG's. I don't think having two is a good idea, anymore than playing Powell at out of position at SF was a good idea
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Yeah, it's same problem we already have I agree
 
Chris Craig said:
So?
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Unbalanced trade - they could take on CJ's salary and just give up Smart's.

Shit - I can just see Olshey spinning it as "that allowed us to re-sign Norman, so don't think of it as CJ for Smart, think of it as CJ for Smart AND Powell!"

Ugh.
 
I have to think smart would come off the bench….there would have to be another deal to get a SF in the works
 
Smart is good on D - no question - he's a slightly smaller Draymond (same personality, too). But he's very poor on O (albeit not terrible 3%) and he can't really play PG. Except he thinks he can.
If there's anything to this, I wonder if Chauncey thinks highly of Smart?
 
blazerkor said:
Did you see what happened to Norm when he tried to defend a real forward during the Denver series... he got slaughtered. If we needed another good guard, this would be great but Marcus Smart never has to defend guys bigger than him because the Celtics haven't ever bought into the nonsense that is "positionless basketball". That shit is all well and good on offense but you just can't roll out a bunch of short dudes on D. Marcus Smart and Norman Powell will get eaten up by 90% of starting small forwards in this league. They are both guards and they aren't even big guards.
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Agree to disagree on the never guarded bigger players for Boston. He is considered by Celtic fans as an excellent defender at multiple positions. But that is a different debate and not relevant in my mind. We have Little for the SF position. If we lose NP then having a bigger defensive-minded guard who can play some point would not be the worst thing to go along with Dame and ANT. Hoping Mudiay has improved enough to do that.....at a cheaper price. (But he is not as good) Regardless we would need more in return for CJ than Smart
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Smart is good on D - no question - he's a slightly smaller Draymond (same personality, too). But he's very poor on O (albeit not terrible 3%) and he can't really play PG. Except he thinks he can.
If there's anything to this, I wonder if Chauncey thinks highly of Smart?
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He can legitimately hold his own defensively at the 1/2 and 3. Plays much bigger - like Draymond as you mentioned.

However, he’d surely be plan C if Simmons/Siakam fails. Anticlimactic but is totally an Olshey type of move.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Agree to disagree on the never guarded bigger players for Boston. He is considered by Celtic fans as an excellent defender at multiple positions. But that is a different debate and not relevant in my mind. We have Little for the SF position. If we lose NP then having a bigger defensive-minded guard who can play some point would not be the worst thing to go along with Dame and ANT. Hoping Mudiay has improved enough to do that.....at a cheaper price. (But he is not as good) Regardless we would need more in return for CJ than Smart
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If Norm walks and we can't put a package together with CJ that lands us Simmons... I couldn't give a fuck about what we do. If Norm walks I think the Vulcans should fire Neil and the new GM should start a total tear down and rebuild on day one. There is no way Dame is staying for long if we don't get better... so there is no fucking way that Dame is staying around if we get worse.
 
Fez Forthright said:
He can legitimately hold his own defensively at the 1/2 and 3. Plays much bigger - like Draymond as you mentioned.

However, he’d surely be plan C if Simmons/Siakam fails. Anticlimactic but is totally an Olshey type of move.
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I could kind of talk myself into it just because Smart would become a total fan favorite if we got him.
Remember this?

But... as you said, if we end up with Smart after all this Simmons/Siakam talk... well it's a good thing Olshey doesn't care what people say about him. I'll just have to cling to the hope that this is a tactic to get Morey to get off the pot.
 
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