If CJ were to be traded, who are we most likely to get?

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illmatic99 said:
https://www.theringer.com/2021/6/21/22543167/ben-simmons-joel-embiid-philadelphia-76ers

Consider Portland. McCollum for Simmons as the main piece in a Blazers-Sixers deal is what executives around the league, just like fans, think is a reasonable trade that makes sense for both sides. Simmons could be like a supercharged Draymond Green to Damian Lillard’s Steph Curry. For years, the Warriors have shredded teams in this play because Curry would often draw a trap, and pass the ball to Draymond, who could get to the rim or make a clutch pass to a teammate. Simmons would thrive in a role like that since Lillard feels the same type of pressure in the pick-and-roll.

McCollum, in turn, would help the Sixers. Any player who can create their own shot at a high level would. But it’s not a no-brainer deal. McCollum is 29, and he has underperformed in past postseasons. A backcourt of McCollum and Seth Curry would also make for a weak defensive duo. Blazers fans have just about had it with McCollum, just as Sixers fans have with Simmons. But they could each drag their problems to a new team too.
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Out of all the guys we have talked about on here, he is the most obtainable.

Philly has to do something. They can't just run it back. They're in the same boat we are. They're on a treadmill and they can't keep expecting different results.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Out of all the guys we have talked about on here, he is the most obtainable.

Philly has to do something. They can't just run it back. They're in the same boat we are. They're on a treadmill and they can't keep expecting different results.
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It's one of the toughest markets for running a sports team. Definitely on a par with New York, Boston and Chicago. Look at the lifespan of coaches, GMs, quarterbacks, star players ... Andy Reid is the one notable exception, and they eventually ran him off. It doesn't take long for the fan base and media to turn on them, and they aren't the only game in town.

For cripes sakes, the fans threw iceballs at Santa Claus at an Eagles game.

Pressure to win is extremely high. There's going to be a strong push for them to do something big.
 
illmatic99 said:
https://www.theringer.com/2021/6/21/22543167/ben-simmons-joel-embiid-philadelphia-76ers

Consider Portland. McCollum for Simmons as the main piece in a Blazers-Sixers deal is what executives around the league, just like fans, think is a reasonable trade that makes sense for both sides. Simmons could be like a supercharged Draymond Green to Damian Lillard’s Steph Curry. For years, the Warriors have shredded teams in this play because Curry would often draw a trap, and pass the ball to Draymond, who could get to the rim or make a clutch pass to a teammate. Simmons would thrive in a role like that since Lillard feels the same type of pressure in the pick-and-roll.

McCollum, in turn, would help the Sixers. Any player who can create their own shot at a high level would. But it’s not a no-brainer deal. McCollum is 29, and he has underperformed in past postseasons. A backcourt of McCollum and Seth Curry would also make for a weak defensive duo. Blazers fans have just about had it with McCollum, just as Sixers fans have with Simmons. But they could each drag their problems to a new team too.
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CJ <=> Simmons swap

Follow that up with a 3 way where Nurk leaves & we get Myles Turner.

I like the potential of this team....

Dame, Norm, Roco, Simmons, Turner
Simons, Little, Zach, Kanter
 
tester551 said:
CJ <=> Simmons swap

Follow that up with a 3 way where Nurk leaves & we get Myles Turner.

I like the potential of this team....

Dame, Norm, Roco, Simmons, Turner
Simons, Little, Zach, Kanter
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We'll have to give up more than just Nurk to get Turner in my opinion. That being said, I would love that starting lineup.
 
B-Roy said:
If fan pressure mattered at all CJ would have been gone years ago.
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CJ's coach and star teammate never threw him under the bus in postgame interviews after a loss.

CJ never got clowned by every media person after an embarrassing loss. Shaq said if he were Ben's teammate, he woulda "knocked his ass out."

i am guessing Ben asks out this summer via rich paul. Needs a change of scenery in the worst way.
 
Trade for Simmons and then try to convince DeRozan to come ring chase. Have Norm call him up.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Trade for Simmons and then try to convince DeRozan to come ring chase. Have Norm call him up.
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that spacing is a recipe for disaster.

if we get Simmons, i want to explore all trade opps for a big who can be a shooting threat. the sad thing is Collins fits the mold perfectly but i don't trust his health.

keep going back to PJ Washington or Larry Nance.
 
illmatic99 said:
that spacing is a recipe for disaster.

if we get Simmons, i want to explore all trade opps for a big who can be a shooting threat. the sad thing is Collins fits the mold perfectly but i don't trust his health.

keep going back to PJ Washington or Larry Nance.
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This feels like the setup for an argument to sign Meyers as a FA.
 
Portland get-Simmons and Barnes
Sac get-Curry and Derrick Jones
Philly get- CJ and RoCo
Dame, Powell, Barnes, Simmons, and Nurk is a very solid starting 5 that can compete on both end of the floor. I would like to trade Nurk as much as I do like him, but realistically there isn’t a trade that make sense. It does give me hope that he shot really well from 3s, maybe he can teach Simmons a thing or two on how to improve on shooting lol
 
In the modern NBA, Ben Simmons' position is center. If we acquire him, we have to trade Nurkic. Maybe we re-sign Kanter for emergencies where we are getting destroyed on the boards, but for the most part you make our own version of Golden State's "death lineup" with Dame, Powel, Roco, (a forward we trade Nurk for and/or Little) and Simmons playing the Draymond role.

You keep around guys like Kanter and Zach Collins because sometimes you just need more size, just like the Warriors always did.

Are we as good as that GS team? No. That was an all-time great lineup. But we've got the Walmart version, which is still pretty damned good and enough to contend if things go right.
 
damianlillard said:
Portland get-Simmons and Barnes
Sac get-Curry and Derrick Jones
Philly get- CJ and RoCo
Dame, Powell, Barnes, Simmons, and Nurk is a very solid starting 5 that can compete on both end of the floor. I would like to trade Nurk as much as I do like him, but realistically there isn’t a trade that make sense. It does give me hope that he shot really well from 3s, maybe he can teach Simmons a thing or two on how to improve on shooting lol
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The last thing Sacramento needs is another guard. They have Fox, Hield, Haliburton, Wright...
 
Damn I was just joking. DeRozan isn’t signing here for the MLE.
 
"i am who i am, it is what it is", meaning: "ill never shoot mid range or 3-pointers and ill pass on wide open layups"

id love to have him for his ability to defend, pass and rebound, but that stubbornness is head scratching

still, love me some front court defense with nurk, simmons and roco

 
Mr. Robot said:
"i am who i am, it is what it is", meaning: "ill never shoot mid range or 3-pointers and ill pass on wide open layups"

id love to have him for his ability to defend, pass and rebound, but that stubbornness is head scratching
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I don't really know what I'd expect him to say. "I'm a little bitch for not taking the wide open dunk and letting the team down by disappearing as a scorer."?

Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself even when you know you've utterly failed. The strength to get back up on your feet has to come from somewhere. He's going to be shit on by everyone for months to come (or at least until somebody else becomes the collective villain) no matter what he says.

Still, yeah he'd be the perfect complement to Dame. You get Simmons for the first 42 minutes of the game. And then it's Dame Time.

You can't even hack Simmons a lot or you put your team in foul trouble, where Dame will absolutely feast. He was 3rd in the league already in free throw attempts without Ben's help.
 
Mr. Robot said:
"i am who i am, it is what it is", meaning: "ill never shoot mid range or 3-pointers and ill pass on wide open layups"

id love to have him for his ability to defend, pass and rebound, but that stubbornness is head scratching

still, love me some front court defense with nurk, simmons and roco

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Yeh, his comment kind of sounds like loser mentality.
 
I'm fine with getting Simmons for CJ, but why does Philly do it? How is CJ better than Curry? And why would they want two undersized shooting guards?
 
illmatic99 said:
And criticize CJ all you want, but the guy would not ever have the yips and stop shooting altogether in game 7 of a playoff game.

A perimeter creator is a perfect fit for that team.
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Yep. He’s not the best fit here, but he would help Philly
 
If you're the Sixers, would you rather have CJ or D'Angelo Russell? Serious question, because I'm not sure. Russell has more PG abilities and has shown some clutchness, but he sounds like he's a bit of a dick, to be honest, and has not won anywhere. CJ has a far better character, but he's older and not a PG.
Minny absolutely should jump on a Simmons-for-Russell trade, though. KAT and Simmons complement each other almost perfectly. They should even throw in a pick or two.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
If you're the Sixers, would you rather have CJ or D'Angelo Russell? Serious question, because I'm not sure. Russell has more PG abilities and has shown some clutchness, but he sounds like he's a bit of a dick, to be honest, and has not won anywhere. CJ has a far better character, but he's older and not a PG.
Minny absolutely should jump on a Simmons-for-Russell trade, though. KAT and Simmons complement each other almost perfectly. They should even throw in a pick or two.
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Russell has 2 yrs left on his deal. CJ has 3. Ben has 4.

Explain to me why Embiid and Simmons are a terrible fit, but KAT and Simmons are perfect.

KAT is probably the closest facsimile to Embiid in the league, but Joel is a far better defender.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Russell has more PG abilities and has shown some clutchness, but he sounds like he's a bit of a dick, to be honest, and has not won anywhere. CJ has a far better character, but he's older and not a PG.
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It is Philly, kind of a dick is an asset with fitting into it's fan base.
 
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