If CJ were to be traded, who are we most likely to get?

[Pinwheel1]

So, I agree it would be great to get more, but dont you think Portland overvalue's him, I mean if he was that decent and so valuable why are we getting rid of Dames best bud?

In Neil' mind...........because besides Dame he can bring back the most value. And that is only happening now because Neil thinks he can re-sign NP who plays the same position and is also pretty good. Before it made less sense to create a hole at the SG spot just fill a hole at one of the forward spots.

 

[illmatic99]

I have no idea who this guy is, again take with a mountain of salt .

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

https://clutchpoints.com/clippers-the-perfect-trade-la-must-offer-blazers-for-cj-mccollum/

 

[B-Roy]

I have no idea who this guy is, again take with a mountain of salt .

I mean, I could put a tweet saying Morey and Olshey have talked and will continue talking and I would probably be correct. Dude is not exactly going out on a limb here and the timing isn't really indicative of anything. I would hope both Olshey and Morey are doing their jobs.

 

[blazerkor]

Just so we're clear and maybe I don't know the forum joke but a "huge grain of salt" or "mountain of salt" ruins the idiom. You say "take it with a grain of salt" because a teeny tiny amount of salt changes nothing, making that grain bigger or adding more salt makes it a bigger deal, not a smaller deal.

 

[glazeduck]

Just so we're clear and maybe I don't know the forum joke but a "huge grain of salt" or "mountain of salt" ruins the idiom. You say "take it with a grain of salt" because a teeny tiny amount of salt changes nothing, making that grain bigger or adding more salt makes it a bigger deal, not a smaller deal.

Not that this thread should be derailed by arguing over idioms, but my understanding is: the implication of *not* telling someone to take something with a grain of salt, is that it should be believed, and that telling someone *TO* take it with a grain of salt, means they should be somewhat skeptical of the information. Thus, if the implication that the amount of skepticism needed is more than "somewhat", the size or amount of salt needed should grow.

 

[blazerkor]

Not that this thread should be derailed by arguing over idioms, but my understanding is: the implication of *not* telling someone to take something with a grain of salt, is that it should be believed, and that telling someone *TO* take it with a grain of salt, means they should be somewhat skeptical of the information. Thus, if the implication that the amount of skepticism needed is more than "somewhat", the size or amount of salt needed should grow.

It turns out I was unclear on the idiom so thanks. I thought the grain meant a small amount of potency and the salt was key in the analogy but really it turns out that the idea that you're taking in is the key element and the grain of salt is meant to inoculate you in some way from its possible falsehood. So you're right and I was definitely not.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

What kind of sauce will you be adding.

It won't come up.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Yeah, I would take him for sure and not trade the pick. But I would be hesitant to say he could transform our defense in year one. But yeah he is exactly the type of player we need at the 4.

I REALLY can't see Cleveland passing this up, just to get ANOTHER undersized, poor-defending guard (however much I love CJ).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think that, if there's anything at all to Quick's story of teams offering "high draft picks" for CJ, it's more likely to be this:


It would be... funny, if after all of us complaining for so long that a backcourt of Dame and CJ won't work, that the Warriors tried Curry and CJ.

Supposing that (a) this was offered, and (b) Olshey took it (neither of which are remotely plausible), whom would you want the Blazers to target in the draft? (And don't say "package them to move up" because the Warriors would do that if it were possible.)

 

[B-Roy]

https://syndication.bleacherreport....-nba-draft.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Go get Beal

 

[Rastapopoulos]

https://syndication.bleacherreport....-nba-draft.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Go get Beal

Jake Fischer = Henry Abbott.

 

[Scalma]

https://syndication.bleacherreport....-nba-draft.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Go get Beal

most noteworthy thing in there was that pascal is available. That’s who we should be trying to get.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think that, if there's anything at all to Quick's story of teams offering "high draft picks" for CJ, it's more likely to be this:
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It would be... funny, if after all of us complaining for so long that a backcourt of Dame and CJ won't work, that the Warriors tried Curry and CJ.

Supposing that (a) this was offered, and (b) Olshey took it (neither of which are remotely plausible), whom would you want the Blazers to target in the draft? (And don't say "package them to move up" because the Warriors would do that if it were possible.)

Exactly. If the Quick rumor is even remotely true there is no way a team who sucks so badly to be at the top of the draft would think
trading for a veteran guard (making 30 million-plus) is a good idea when the draft is guard-heavy at the top.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Supposing that (a) this was offered, and (b) Olshey took it (neither of which are remotely plausible), whom would you want the Blazers to target in the draft? (And don't say "package them to move up" because the Warriors would do that if it were possible.)

My choices: Garuba and Giddey. Defense and potential. And we could watch both of them in the Olympics!
Also tempted by:
Moses Moody
Murphy III
Franz Wagner
Chris Duarte
Jared Butler (very much an Olshey-type pick)

 

[wizenheimer]

I think that, if there's anything at all to Quick's story of teams offering "high draft picks" for CJ, it's more likely to be this:
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It would be... funny, if after all of us complaining for so long that a backcourt of Dame and CJ won't work, that the Warriors tried Curry and CJ.

Supposing that (a) this was offered, and (b) Olshey took it (neither of which are remotely plausible), whom would you want the Blazers to target in the draft? (And don't say "package them to move up" because the Warriors would do that if it were possible.)

as you said: very unlikely

I'd also think, if conversations took place, that what the Warriors were offering was 14 + Wiggins. Not the 7 or both. And of course, the Warrior would be trading for CJ to make him the 3rd option, not the 2nd option that he's been in Portland. And the Warriors would not be trading for him so he could ball-hog and stall their offense

or not. CJ could be viewed as a poor man's Beal, so maybe, I guess

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

https://syndication.bleacherreport....-nba-draft.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Go get Beal

 

[B-Roy]

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Hard cap.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The Simmons for Siakam trade rumor makes too much sense for both teams for us to beat.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

The Simmons for Siakam trade rumor makes too much sense for both teams for us to beat.

If they could make it Simmons for Siakam and Lowry, I agree. But just Simmons for Siakam is a downgrade for Philly.

 

[Scalma]

Jake Fischer = Henry Abbott.

rastapopolos = tunchi

 

[Rastapopoulos]

as you said: very unlikely

I'd also think, if conversations took place, that what the Warriors were offering was 14 + Wiggins. Not the 7 or both.

Yuck.

 

[wizenheimer]

Yuck.

well, what do you think they were 'offering'?

and, yeah, I know you don't think they offered anything

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Yuck.

I dunno. CJ and Wiggins are probably pretty close to equal talent/impact-wise, and if Duarte is as NBA-ready as everyone says, I think that deal could make a lot of sense for the Blazers, especially as the idea of dealing for Simmons and/or Siakam becomes increasingly unlikely.

Certainly not the home-run move we're all really hoping for, and we'd still need to sign a quality big in free agency (Olynyk?), but that could be a contending lineup if the pieces fit well, the new staff implemented an effective defensive scheme/emphasis, and the bench youngsters continue their progression.

Dame/Ant
Norm/Duarte
Wiggins/Little
RoCo/[Olynyk]
Nurk/[Olynyk]

 

[lawai'a]

Yuck.

Wiggins has turned himself into a + defender as well as signed for 1 less season than CJ@$30million. he fills a position of need and improved his efficiency in GS shooting 38% on 3's.

 

[boredinsalem]

The Simmons for Siakam trade rumor makes too much sense for both teams for us to beat.

Nah, unless they've got a move with Tobias Harris set up too. He doesn't work well at 3.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Nah, unless they've got a move with Tobias Harris set up too. He doesn't work well at 3.

Morey'll come back to Neil..."Since you wouldn't offer us Dame, we're sending Simmons to Canada. But if you really do want to trade that CJ guy for a forward, I've got another one that might interest you..."

 

[Pinwheel1]

If they could make it Simmons for Siakam and Lowry, I agree. But just Simmons for Siakam is a downgrade for Philly.

Or another PG. Maybe they feel Tyres Maxey is ready.

Nah, unless they've got a move with Tobias Harris set up too. He doesn't work well at 3.

Good point. That is a lot of money in one position. I wonder if Morey is trying to unload the Harris Contract on Portland for CJ and Jones
That is one horrible contract.

 

[Zach Collins Enthusiast]

CJ to the Warriors for the 14th and 7th?