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If worst case scenario happened and Blazers moved out of state would you still root for them?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 5.4%

  • No

    Votes: 43 76.8%

  • Depends on where they moved to

    Votes: 10 17.9%
  • Total voters
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Mediocre Man said:
Portland 16th highest tax rate
Wealthy families and even well off families like mine are moving out of state
Voted no on measure 118
A lot more from previous generation like my old ass. You have your opinion. I love your opinion. I’m just skeptical because of history
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I hardly heard about measure 118. It'll come back again and get more traction.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Bragging rights and to demand those who were wrong eat a huge helping of crow... What could possibly be more important than that?
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No one ever changes their mind in an equal fashion.

35 posts of angst that were incorrect, will get you one "guess I might have been wrong" response.

maybe....
 
BassPlaya said:
No one ever changes their mind in an equal fashion.

35 posts of angst that were incorrect, will get you one "guess I might have been wrong" response.

maybe....
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Yes, but we can still make the demand.

Never underestimate the power of the right to scream "SCOREBOARD" at the top of ones lungs...

- Confucius, 479 BC
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tlongII said:
Who agreed to pay a billion?
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Oregon lawmakers pass $800 million bill for Portland MLB stadium

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A rendering provided by the Portland Diamond Project shows what a proposed baseball stadium would look like if Major League Baseball agrees to bring a new team to the city. Supporters want the Oregon Legislature to pass a bill providing $800 million in bonds to build the new stadium along the city's south waterfront.

In a bid to bring professional baseball to Portland, Oregon lawmakers have decided they’re swinging for the fences.

Senate Bill 110 sailed through the Oregon Legislature with bipartisan support, passing the House of Representatives on a 46-6 vote Tuesday.

The bill authorizes $800 million in bonds to help fund the construction of a professional baseball stadium on Portland’s South Waterfront.

Instead of pulling from current state revenue, the bill calls for paying off the bonds through income taxes on players and staff. Proponents say it would be on the team to figure out how to fund the rest of the stadium, expected to cost $2 billion.

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Phatguysrule said:
Oregon lawmakers pass $800 million bill for Portland MLB stadium

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A rendering provided by the Portland Diamond Project shows what a proposed baseball stadium would look like if Major League Baseball agrees to bring a new team to the city. Supporters want the Oregon Legislature to pass a bill providing $800 million in bonds to build the new stadium along the city's south waterfront.

In a bid to bring professional baseball to Portland, Oregon lawmakers have decided they’re swinging for the fences.

Senate Bill 110 sailed through the Oregon Legislature with bipartisan support, passing the House of Representatives on a 46-6 vote Tuesday.

The bill authorizes $800 million in bonds to help fund the construction of a professional baseball stadium on Portland’s South Waterfront.

Instead of pulling from current state revenue, the bill calls for paying off the bonds through income taxes on players and staff. Proponents say it would be on the team to figure out how to fund the rest of the stadium, expected to cost $2 billion.

Read More
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So you think the city and state would do something similar to keep the Blazers here? I don’t.
 
You poor fools. It’s clear that he’s gonna build an arena on a cruise ship and travel around. Whichever port he’s in will have the team for that season and then he will move on to the next port city. They will be renamed the Global Trail Blazers.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You poor fools. It’s clear that he’s gonna build an arena on a cruise ship and travel around. Whichever port he’s in will have the team for that season and then he will move on to the next port city. They will be renamed the Global Trail Blazers.
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The Kevin Love Boat!

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tlongII said:
So you think the city and state would do something similar to keep the Blazers here? I don’t.
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I do. It would be insane to support an MLB stadium that we may never get yet not support the team we already have.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I do. It would be insane to support an MLB stadium that we may never get yet not support the team we already have.
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Agree to disagree. I don’t think an ownership group would agree to that. It’s also a reason why Portland will not get a MLB franchise.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Portland 16th highest tax rate
Wealthy families and even well off families like mine are moving out of state
Voted no on measure 118
A lot more from previous generation like my old ass. You have your opinion. I love your opinion. I’m just skeptical because of history
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Stuff from previous generations is like saying "team X" hasnt done something on 50 years when no one on the team was involved. Means nothing about what happens today

Not sure what voting no on 118 backs your point. It didn't tax business.
 
Good fucking grief. Dude who leads the investment group that buys the team says he wants to stay here, has a history of keeping a team in a smaller market when he said he would and the city and state lawmakers say that they'll support splitting the cost for a new or completely refurbished arena. With all of that some of you are leaning towards the team leaving still?!? I mean it's a possibility but if you see it as more than an outside possibility at this point I feel bad for you.

The reason I feel bad is because if you choose to lean towards the less likely and obviously worse outcome in this situation, it's very likely you do that in most or all situations and that is no way to live.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Oregon lawmakers pass $800 million bill for Portland MLB stadium

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A rendering provided by the Portland Diamond Project shows what a proposed baseball stadium would look like if Major League Baseball agrees to bring a new team to the city. Supporters want the Oregon Legislature to pass a bill providing $800 million in bonds to build the new stadium along the city's south waterfront.

In a bid to bring professional baseball to Portland, Oregon lawmakers have decided they’re swinging for the fences.

Senate Bill 110 sailed through the Oregon Legislature with bipartisan support, passing the House of Representatives on a 46-6 vote Tuesday.

The bill authorizes $800 million in bonds to help fund the construction of a professional baseball stadium on Portland’s South Waterfront.

Instead of pulling from current state revenue, the bill calls for paying off the bonds through income taxes on players and staff. Proponents say it would be on the team to figure out how to fund the rest of the stadium, expected to cost $2 billion.

Read More
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that sure doesn't seem to be what you're implying. All it was is an authorization of 800M in bonds, and the sale of the bonds may or may not happen. It's dependent on a new MLB owner being willing to pony up the 1-1.2B balance of what a stadium could cost

not only that, there's this:

"Instead of pulling from current state revenue, the bill calls for paying off the bonds through income taxes on players and staff". WTF does that mean and really, how much money can be raised from that? I'd imagine if that 'tax' ever looks like it might be levied there would be all sorts of legal challenges. It's a 'pig-in-poke' scheme. Let me know when the first bond is actually issued.

do you really believe the City and State are just going to start selling bonds, doing site-work, and pouring concrete on spec? Reminds me of that old saying: 'a government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul'
 
The Bridge is good till 2030 after that the franchise would/could be portable. The City/State/Voters will need to really step up in order to keep the franchise here. Im sure there will be plenty of pushback for voters to approve when its billionaires and millionaires demanding a new/refurbished area.
 


See. These stadiums sometimes don’t choke cities around the necks of the local tax payers. I believe Minnesota paid off their new football stadium early too
 
Mediocre Man said:
No reason to at this point. Clay Bennett said all the right things and then moved the team to OKC before to ink was dry on the owners approval
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yeah i'm not sure why the word intend is inflating everyone's balloon so much. assholes are like intentions--you never know what you're going to chocolate. wait how's that go again?
 
TBpup said:
I believe it is a condition of the sale that the Blazers remain in Portland.
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that's not a thing, I wish it was though. paul definitely wanted them to stay in portland but there's nothing that can't be broken at this point.

I think this sale is great news for blazers fans--some minority owners have portland ties and the good faith vibes that the PE investors or Tom are floating some of the money until other smaller northwest investors pop up is really nice but as MM says this thing will be about whether city politicians stake their names on supporting an arena deal or RG upgrade deal ($$). the good news is the redevelopment piece is a win/win for the city.
 
wizenheimer said:
that sure doesn't seem to be what you're implying. All it was is an authorization of 800M in bonds, and the sale of the bonds may or may not happen. It's dependent on a new MLB owner being willing to pony up the 1-1.2B balance of what a stadium could cost

not only that, there's this:

"Instead of pulling from current state revenue, the bill calls for paying off the bonds through income taxes on players and staff". WTF does that mean and really, how much money can be raised from that? I'd imagine if that 'tax' ever looks like it might be levied there would be all sorts of legal challenges. It's a 'pig-in-poke' scheme. Let me know when the first bond is actually issued.

do you really believe the City and State are just going to start selling bonds, doing site-work, and pouring concrete on spec? Reminds me of that old saying: 'a government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul'
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As I understand it, it made financial sense according to professional people who looked at it. I think it would be fairly easy to get the same kind of support for the Blazers. Likely more support.

Having the team is a huge win for the city and state. Having the development that this investment group is clearly going to want is also going to be a huge win for this city, and thereby the state.

It doesn't make any sense not to support it. You're going to lose more money by losing the Blazers than it would ever cost you to do what it takes to keep them. And you're likely going to make more money from increased economic activity with a well thought out development than you'll contribute to the construction (especially if you're smart).

It's just not even worth considering letting them get away.
 
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Samuel said:
yeah i'm not sure why the word intend is inflating everyone's balloon so much. assholes are like intentions--you never know what you're going to chocolate. wait how's that go again?
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I think you nailed it. Then again part of my brain is gone, so…..
 
Mediocre Man said:
Vegas, Seattle, Austin, Raleigh. Some are bigger, some are better. I am on no way saying this will happen, I’m saying until the people of Oregon and or Portland show they are willing to pay for an arena, there is a good chance they move. If the people support more taxes then they’ll stay. History shows people in Portland won’t support it
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That list is so out of context. Raleigh NC has Charlotte hornets nearby. Austin has Dallas nearby. Vegas. Ill admit Vegas is a legit threat, but thats it in my viewable opinion.
But Vegas doesn't come with as large a market as the NW. not close considering it also has a couple of LA teams a couple hours away.

It really feels like you are stretching everything so far to hold onto this possibility of movement.
Reading the many comments and statements from the city and people working on the details, I see zero indication this city, or the league, would allow the Blazers to move.

The Blazers are a Portland icon and the glue to the community.
But being in Texas? I would understand you not understanding that, not being in the city on the daily.

Sorry man. I think you are pushing an extremely slim chance as a fair possibility, based of what the Sonics did 15 years or so ago?

Ill unhappily eat a healthy serving of crow if they do move. But as of now, I think you are pushing an extremely low percentage narrative here.
 
andalusian said:
China
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Yes and do you think that market will get larger by the team moving further inland with lease Chinese population? Or would be best to maximize that market by keeping the team on the West Coast, where the largest Chinese population in the states, exists?
 
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