OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

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Cut the crap. You know what I meant.
No I don't.
For years I heard about "the gay lifestyle" as though all of us despite differences in nationality, ethnicity, gender, age, social class had the same lifestyle. No one would claim ABM, Bill Gates, Pipe Francis, Osama bin Laden, Elvis Presley and Nelson Mandela all had the same lifestyle because all were straight men. Talking of the gay lifestyle, the trans lifestyle, etc. is a way of othering us. We are outside normal range if people who have individual lifestyles.

So maybe I do know what you really mean.
 
So maybe I do know what you really mean.

I've heard the term, "lifestyle" in that context for many years. Shoot, I even heard it used by my sister....who lived in a "married" lesbian relationship for over thirteen years.
 
I've heard the term, "lifestyle" in that context for many years. Shoot, I even heard it used by my sister....who lived in a "married" lesbian relationship for over thirteen years.

So what is the "gay lifestyle" or the "trans lifestyle?"
 
So what is the "gay lifestyle" or the "trans lifestyle?"
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OK, so I blew it and completely misdefined your gay "life". I stand corrected.

Interesting that you just assume that Minstrel is gay, as if he's said something to lead you to believe that. Or maybe you actually meant it as some kind of insult.

This, along with many many threads you create or post in, is not looking good on you.
 
Interesting that you just assume that Minstrel is gay, as if he's said something to lead you to believe that. Or maybe you actually meant it as some kind of insult.

This, along with many many threads you create or post in, is not looking good on you.

Dude, he's gay. Is that a crime?
 
Nope. I think you're confusing "non-white" with "gay" in your list of things you consider suspicious.

Sorry. Coulda sworn you had mentioned that years ago.
 
I'm just happy that Alex is content and having a great time hanging with Pericles. That's the "real" bottom-line here: What does the kid want to do/become and how can/will they help him realize his aspirations.....whatever they may be.
 
Apparently it’s an extremely cold day in hell today, but I tend to side with ABM on this one. I have NO problem whatsoever with transgendered people, LBGT people, straight people etc (just assholes in general). But with more and more “transgendering” (for lack of a better word) going on, it CAN be confusing. Especially if you come into a town like Portland from a state like Tennessee (no stereotyping intended). Transgender people are practically ubiquitous around the PDX area. I can only assume that some are either at the beginning of the transition, or smack dab in the middle. Again, it can be very confusing. And as much as I would honestly like to respect their choices and address them by their preferred honorific, I find it easier to just react to them as I would pretty much anyone else; gender neutral, thank you for the service. That way no one is offended if I don’t get it right. All that said, respect and understanding are a two way street. Some transgendered people are almost deliberately testy and confrontational. Again, I get that. They’ve spent a lifetime pondering their identities, their sanity, etc, all the while being “targets” for a narrow minded society. That would make me cranky and defensive too. But by being a rude and defensive, that individual that ABM encountered only dug the chasm deeper. It should have been a teaching moment by that transgender individual. Oh, I’m sure ABM “learned” something, if only not to make assumptions. But it could have been so much more than it was. It takes two to tango (or tangle) and the individual ABM met sounds at least as much unenlightened as they felt ABM was. If the transgendered want understanding from a society that “doesn’t get it”, they are going to have to try and understand “our” ignorance and help “us” work through it. Seems to me the individual ABM met failed too………

Most in here don't understand, nor agree with, this point of view. I appreciate your sentiments.
 
Most in here don't understand, nor agree with, this point of view. I appreciate your sentiments.
uh....you've already posted this once....pretty sure UCD already got the memo...everybody here "understands" the point of view..not everyone agrees but don't confuse comprehension with choices
 
uh....you've already posted this once....pretty sure UCD already got the memo...everybody here "understands" the point of view..not everyone agrees but don't confuse comprehension with choices

So what? This thread will be approaching 500 posts. Not everyone reads every post. It was probably the only post in here that brings a semblance of understanding of my perspective. It bears repeating and again thanking the poster. Sorry if you don't think so.
 
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