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I also find it hilarious that "libs of tiktok" is our smoking gun proof.

For a group that runs around saying everything is fake news, it sure does show the hypocrisy whenever they find something that fits their narrative.

Libs of TikTok is not the source. This only shows you don't understand how to evaluate sources.
 
Imho it got nothing to do with this poor human being. They are just using her to have big discussion. In next few years there will be 'category open' in sports, where man and woman can compete. And next thing will be half man/half robot and same discussion we are having here. Should robots compete? Does one artificial hand makes man a robot or maybe artificial heart.

This shows, that we have cyborgs on the way to our society.
Robots don't have gender.

"Furthermore, societal acceptance of augmented individuals poses another layer of complexity. Prejudices and biases against those who choose or need to enhance themselves could lead to discrimination and social fragmentation. Promoting inclusivity and fostering a culture of understanding and acceptance will be vital in mitigating these risks."
There's already an open category in sports. It's the men's division. Anybody can compete in the men's division (unless they are on steroids and have inhuman quantities of performance enhancing drugs).

There is no reason to create an "other" division to try and isolate people further.
 
Read it and weep. I keep bringing you all accurate information, trying to rescue you from the cesspool of disinformation you're wallowing in, and I don't even charge you a fee. Where's the gratitude?
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This dude told me to read "Libs Of Tic Toc" and weep.
Yeah I'm crying for sure.
 
Went back and read over this thread. I should Apologize to @crandc
I probably should not have come across like that. This issue is a bit too personal to me.
I'll be better in the future.
This is a very personal conversation for many people. And I also apologize if anything I have said offends anybody in this thread.

Though, I do want to say that I engage in this thread because I feel it is important to best protect the rights of as many people as possible for the greatest good possible.
 
What is so disgusting is this young woman, who worked her butt off getting to the Olympics, from a country that so far as I know isn't very supportive of women's sports, has her dream spoiled by ignorant assholes publicly humiliating her to promote a political agenda. What should have been so special for her is a nightmare.
 
What is so disgusting is this young woman, who worked her butt off getting to the Olympics, from a country that so far as I know isn't very supportive of women's sports, has her dream spoiled by ignorant assholes publicly humiliating her to promote a political agenda. What should have been so special for her is a nightmare.
It's too bad grown adults have become so obsessed with one person they try to justify their disgusting behavior in the name of Merica'.
 
Children will tell truths that cowardly adults will not.
I was just talking to a 3-year-old the other day and they remarked "never assume from a person's genitals or secondary-sexual characteristics that they actually are the sex that anyone for centuries would have identified them as - only a chromosomal test is definitive!"

Out of the mouths of babes!
 
I was just talking to a 3-year-old the other day and they remarked "never assume from a person's genitals or secondary-sexual characteristics that they actually are the sex that anyone for centuries would have identified them as - only a chromosomal test is definitive!"

Out of the mouths of babes!
Having inside out balls doesn't make you a woman.

Why do I have to teach you lefties these basic facts like you are 3.
 
They produce different hormones and different gametes.
Testes start out as ovaries, and the expression of hormones on them during late pregnancy is what turns them into balls.
You got slightly mutated ovaries in your sack, buddy.

The human body is pretty generic, really.
 
I find the hate that is politically motivated the biggest issue. Tough to see things with an open mind if the people you are aligned with in most every aspect of your life fall in line to those kinds of attacks.
I think about the 15-16 year old who is simply repeating what their parents are saying. Heck . Take it a step further and think about what kids in grade school 9-10 years old are saying?
 
It's funny that it took successful intersex athletes to drag the conservatives kicking and screaming to the reality that sex is not binary... only to have them decide that it's still some nefarious plot to weaken the west or whatever. And they still cannot wrap their heads around the difference between sex and gender. Even a 5 year old could comprehend that.
 
Testes start out as ovaries, and the expression of hormones on them during late pregnancy is what turns them into balls.
You got slightly mutated ovaries in your sack, buddy.

The human body is pretty generic, really.
This is what happens in Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome: we all start out the same way and then XY individuals usually respond to the release of androgen in utero to turn their gonads into testes, but if you have AIS, you don't change and carry on in "default mode" which is to turn into somebody with a vagina and breasts (once puberty hits). But you're XY, so you don't have a uterus and instead of ovaries you have undescended testes. This was the reason that Maria Patino (Spanish hurdler) "failed" a sex test back in the day. Fucked up her life: killed her athletic career and her boyfriend dumped her (the cad).
 
This is what happens in Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome: we all start out the same way and then XY individuals usually respond to the release of androgen in utero to turn their gonads into testes, but if you have AIS, you don't change and carry on in "default mode" which is to turn into somebody with a vagina and breasts (once puberty hits). But you're XY, so you don't have a uterus and instead of ovaries you have undescended testes. This was the reason that Maria Patino (Spanish hurdler) "failed" a sex test back in the day. Fucked up her life: killed her athletic career and her boyfriend dumped her (the cad).
More on AIS from somebody who has it.
 

PARTICIPATION OF INTERSEX ATHLETES IN WOMEN’S SPORTS
An athlete with complete or near complete AIS will have little or no usable testosterone in her body, and therefore should not raise any concern about the competitive advantage over other women. In fact, since women’s bodies typically do use testosterone (though in quantities generally less than men), women with AIS would actually have less musculature and other physical characteristics that are perceived to relate to athletic ability than do women without AIS.

It really seems like assignment at birth would be incredibly effective and accurate regarding athletic advantage. From everything I can find, it seems like we've let all of this become far more complicated than it needs to be.
 
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