I'm So SICK & TIRED of Neil Olshey

[kjironman1]

I’m gonna keep saying it loud so people don’t forget what a flaming turd this season was... fans deserve change. People have short memories so they will forgot and let Neil sell his “patience” narrative and be content with all his fuckups... until something changes I will keep reminding people... it’s unacceptable as a fan to have no accountability for the complete and utter failure in the playoffs... someone has to pay... either Neil or Terry fired or CJ traded... will keep posting til one of those happens

Hope you enjoy your summer and for the most part the next season or even two or three more seasons. Gonna get real tired if they give Terry and Neil another contract.

 

[kjironman1]

That do-nothing has to spend his $400,000 per month some way or another.

Is that all he's getting? Doesn't he make a little extra on the car lot also?

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I’m gonna keep saying it loud so people don’t forget what a flaming turd this season was... fans deserve change. People have short memories so they will forgot and let Neil sell his “patience” narrative and be content with all his fuckups... until something changes I will keep reminding people... it’s unacceptable as a fan to have no accountability for the complete and utter failure in the playoffs... someone has to pay... either Neil or Terry fired or CJ traded... will keep posting til one of those happens

Thanks for the warning Mr. One Trick Pony. I’ve tried to stay out of this conversation while agreeing 100% with those who have called you out. But you just became the first poster I’ve put on ignore in my almost 3 years on SC2. I’m certainly not going to be the “someone who has to pay” for your childish.....and obsessive.....bullshit.....It was obnoxious within a week after the season ended and has aged poorly since. You’re awfully old to be throwing a sustained tantrum.......

 

[THE HCP]

I’m gonna keep saying it loud so people don’t forget what a flaming turd this season was... fans deserve change. People have short memories so they will forgot and let Neil sell his “patience” narrative and be content with all his fuckups... until something changes I will keep reminding people... it’s unacceptable as a fan to have no accountability for the complete and utter failure in the playoffs... someone has to pay... either Neil or Terry fired or CJ traded... will keep posting til one of those happens

Oh well, keep fightin the fight. Let me know how it goes.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Thanks for the warning Mr. One Trick Pony. I’ve tried to stay out of this conversation while agreeing 100% with those who have called you out. But you just became the first poster I’ve put on ignore in my almost 3 years on SC2. I’m certainly not going to be the “someone who has to pay” for your childish.....and obsessive.....bullshit.....It was obnoxious within a week after the season ended and has aged poorly since. You’re awfully old to be throwing a sustained tantrum.......

Good riddence...

 

[kjironman1]

Good riddence... you are mentally fragile

Ohhh the irony.....

 

[THE HCP]

Good riddence... you are mentally fragile

This is another example of why your message is not being accepted. And I'M the one you claim acts like he's still in high school? Nobody is asking you to change your view, just your delivery.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

The way I see it is, that PA ultimately is the only guy with the power to change the GM. The way the season ended was awful, and I place the Blame on NO and Stotts in that order, but if PA has decided to keep NO around, all I can do as a fan is hope that NO and Stotts does something to make it so next year doesn't end on such a sour note.
I don't personally believe NO will make the moves required to put the Blazers closer to contending for a title, but he has apparently sold PA on it. So I'll just wait and see what they do, sure I'll voice my displeasure here (that's a big part of what forums are for), and it sucks from my perspective because I don't believe in NO. I do hope he can change my mind though, as ultimately what I want is the Blazers to contend for titles so if he does a good job with that than I'll be happy.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I’m gonna keep saying it loud so people don’t forget what a flaming turd this season was... fans deserve change. People have short memories so they will forgot and let Neil sell his “patience” narrative and be content with all his fuckups... until something changes I will keep reminding people... it’s unacceptable as a fan to have no accountability for the complete and utter failure in the playoffs... someone has to pay... either Neil or Terry fired or CJ traded... will keep posting til one of those happens

Please don't assume you know how my memory works. It works well. Maybe some people want a better vibe around here and are just putting it in the back of their minds? You are actively trying to take the peace away from people?
Try PM them individually then, so those of us with memories aren't constantly annoyed?
I agree with half of your take, but not how you bring it. Just sayin...

 

[Gronk Brady]

The way I see it is, that PA ultimately is the only guy with the power to change the GM. The way the season ended was awful, and I place the Blame on NO and Stotts in that order, but if PA has decided to keep NO around, all I can do as a fan is hope that NO and Stotts does something to make it so next year doesn't end on such a sour note.
I don't personally believe NO will make the moves required to put the Blazers closer to contending for a title, but he has apparently sold PA on it. So I'll just wait and see what they do, sure I'll voice my displeasure here (that's a big part of what forums are for), and it sucks from my perspective because I don't believe in NO. I do hope he can change my mind though, as ultimately what I want is the Blazers to contend for titles so if he does a good job with that than I'll be happy.

I can’t remember going into a season less excited than this upcoming year beginning with the same coach and both Dame and CJ still on roster... the hope is gone and there is no trust to feel good about regular season... at least on a lottery team there is the hope of getting a superstar with a high draft pick... we have been rolling with same team for years and same issues persist... except there is no flexibility to fix it

 

[Gronk Brady]

Please don't assume you know how my memory works. It works well. Maybe some people want a better vibe around here and are just putting it in the back of their minds? You are actively trying to take the peace away from people?
Try PM them individually then, so those of us with memories aren't constantly annoyed?
I agree with half of your take, but not how you bring it. Just sayin...

That’s exactly what Neil wants... for people to just quiet down and go away

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I can’t remember going into a season less excited than this upcoming year beginning with the same coach and both Dame and CJ still on roster... the hope is gone and there is no trust to feel good about regular season... at least on a lottery team there is the hope of getting a superstar with a high draft pick... we have been rolling with same team for years and same issues persist... except there is no flexibility to fix it

I get it, we have a low draft pick, and what feels like a not very good position to get the pieces we need to compete without making some changes, and it sucks. I really don't think NO is the guy for the job, and I don't believe he will make the moves necessary. I'm having a hard time looking forward to next season too, but it's also a few months away a lot can change (hopefully something does), we already know they have a bunch of decisions to make, and have a pick and MLE to work with (if nothing else). So hopefully things don't feel so crappy come October.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

That’s exactly what Neil wants... for people to just quiet down and go away

I don't think we need to sit down and shut up and suck our thumbs til October either, so don't take what I'm saying to mean I think we should just not say anything and trust neil olshey will get it. PA is the only one with a voice in the matter though, so don't drive yourself and those around you crazy hoping for some guy that (I'm guessing) none of us know personally to make a decision. We literally have no say in the matter, if I did Olshey would be gone, and Stotts may still be there but the leash would be pretty short.

 

[hoopsjock]

I can’t remember going into a season less excited than this upcoming year beginning with the same coach and both Dame and CJ still on roster... the hope is gone and there is no trust to feel good about regular season... at least on a lottery team there is the hope of getting a superstar with a high draft pick... we have been rolling with same team for years and same issues persist... except there is no flexibility to fix it

You mean like how the defense went from historically bad to top-10 in defensive rating this year? Gee I sure wish they wouldn't just let that issue persist.

Or do you mean how since the summer of 2016 they've had no "flexibility" but somehow managed to add a quality young center and a lottery pick big man?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

You mean like how the defense went from historically bad to top-10 in defensive rating this year? Gee I sure wish they wouldn't just let that issue persist.

Or do you mean how since the summer of 2016 they've had no "flexibility" but somehow managed to add a quality young center and a lottery pick big man?

I don't know how I feel about the season Nurkic had, he definitely helps defensively and at times is effective on offense...
Zach Collins is a guy that I've gone back and forth with co-workers, I think I see flashes of potential there, but his season stats are, 4.4ppg, 3.3rpg, .5bpg, and an impressive PER of 7.56. Also for a center / pf his fg% is awful it's at 39%. Not saying he can't and won't get better just saying, I think we need to pump the breaks a bit on proclaiming he's the future PF for the Blazers.
I won't deny that in the regular season they were better overall this year than last, and the defense did improve, I won't even deny that they did manage to get an average starting center (with potential to be better) for a back up center and some how got a pick out of Denver too.

Let's not forget they were last in fast break and assists the offense went way down hill from the year before.

 

[CupWizier]

That’s exactly what Neil wants... for people to just quiet down and go away

Olshey doesn't even know you exist. Maybe you can invite him over to see your basement.

 

[hoopsjock]

I don't know how I feel about the season Nurkic had, he definitely helps defensively and at times is effective on offense...
Zach Collins is a guy that I've gone back and forth with co-workers, I think I see flashes of potential there, but his season stats are, 4.4ppg, 3.3rpg, .5bpg, and an impressive PER of 7.56. Also for a center / pf his fg% is awful it's at 39%. Not saying he can't and won't get better just saying, I think we need to pump the breaks a bit on proclaiming he's the future PF for the Blazers.
I won't deny that in the regular season they were better overall this year than last, and the defense did improve, I won't even deny that they did manage to get an average starting center (with potential to be better) for a back up center and some how got a pick out of Denver too.

14 points and 9 rebounds a game with ELITE rim protection and we have people (not you) talking about how the Blazers should just let him walk. It's crazy talk. Yes, he needs to improve but there aren't many young bigs that are fully developed. He was great over the last few months of the season. I don't buy the "he doesn't fit today's game" argument either. We aren't going to out small ball teams like Houston and GS so why not go a different route and beat them up inside.

Collins was supposed to have somewhat of a redshirt year this year. The fact that a project big that was 2-3 years away from being in the rotation actually contributed and showed flashes is promising. His defense is phenomenal for his age. He's also got the potential to score in ways we haven't seen in awhile from a big man with post moves including a money Dirk like step back, some ability to score off the dribble, and a decent looking three pointer that should improve with hard work. This kid has a lot of tools and despite being mad at his selection I am really looking forward to seeing him develop.

 

[dviss1]

IMHO it's because most fans are happy with having good guys who are competitive enough to make the playoffs.

Portlanders have always been a little small town thinking. It's part of the reason there is only 1 of the 4 major sports there.

If more fans demanded change, there would be change

Like we did when the fans ended the jail blazer era?

Please tell me how you demand a team change their coach/GM?

 

[BBert]

How big is YOUR house?

Oh, it's plenty big enough. Bigger than normal actually. Believe me.

FAMS!

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

14 points and 9 rebounds a game with ELITE rim protection and we have people (not you) talking about how the Blazers should just let him walk. It's crazy talk. Yes, he needs to improve but there aren't many young bigs that are fully developed. He was great over the last few months of the season. I don't buy the "he doesn't fit today's game" argument either. We aren't going to out small ball teams like Houston and GS so why not go a different route and beat them up inside.

Collins was supposed to have somewhat of a redshirt year this year. The fact that a project big that was 2-3 years away from being in the rotation actually contributed and showed flashes is promising. His defense is phenomenal for his age. He's also got the potential to score in ways we haven't seen in awhile from a big man with post moves including a money Dirk like step back, some ability to score off the dribble, and a decent looking three pointer that should improve with hard work. This kid has a lot of tools and despite being mad at his selection I am really looking forward to seeing him develop.

My issue with Nurkic is how engaged mentally is he going to be, we saw it at times this year, and the mental stuff is basically why Denver let him go. I'll give him some what of a pass for the Pelicans series as while I think Nurkic is pretty good, AD is probably the best big in the league (he's at least top 3). It seems to be a pattern though, of
long stretches of good Nurkic, than a bad game turns into a long stretch of bad Nurkic. My personal take is I'd love to keep him if the price is in the 12-15M range, and honestly if they have to pay him more they are in a position they may just have to give him a bigger contract, I think he's like in the top 10-15 starting centers in the NBA which you can win with that especially when he helps your defense so much, but can they keep him mentally locked in when they need him to be?

I wouldn't be surprised if Collins takes a step up in the next couple years and can be a legit starting PF, I'm just pointing out that he still appears to be quite a ways from it, and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it either. I'm kind of taking a lets wait and see how much he works at it approach. Tools seem to be there, but he is definitely a project and who knows how that''ll turn out.

 

[CupWizier]

My issue with Nurkic is how engaged mentally is he going to be, we saw it at times this year, and the mental stuff is basically why Denver let him go. I'll give him some what of a pass for the Pelicans series as while I think Nurkic is pretty good, AD is probably the best big in the league (he's at least top 3). It seems to be a pattern though, of
long stretches of good Nurkic, than a bad game turns into a long stretch of bad Nurkic. My personal take is I'd love to keep him if the price is in the 12-15M range, and honestly if they have to pay him more they are in a position they may just have to give him a bigger contract, I think he's like in the top 10-15 starting centers in the NBA which you can win with that especially when he helps your defense so much, but can they keep him mentally locked in when they need him to be?

I wouldn't be surprised if Collins takes a step up in the next couple years and can be a legit starting PF, I'm just pointing out that he still appears to be quite a ways from it, and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it either. I'm kind of taking a lets wait and see how much he works at it approach. Tools seem to be there, but he is definitely a project and who knows how that''ll turn out.

One thing to consider is that Nurkic is still only 23 years old and bigs develop slower than other players.

 

[CupWizier]

I can’t remember going into a season less excited than this upcoming year beginning with the same coach and both Dame and CJ still on roster... the hope is gone and there is no trust to feel good about regular season... at least on a lottery team there is the hope of getting a superstar with a high draft pick... we have been rolling with same team for years and same issues persist... except there is no flexibility to fix it

define what "years" mean to you.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Like we did when the fans ended the jail blazer era?

Please tell me how you demand a team change their coach/GM?

I don't think you can. We, as a fan base though seem to be more accepting of mediocrity than others.

 

[e_blazer]

I can’t remember going into a season less excited than this upcoming year beginning with the same coach and both Dame and CJ still on roster... the hope is gone and there is no trust to feel good about regular season... at least on a lottery team there is the hope of getting a superstar with a high draft pick... we have been rolling with same team for years and same issues persist... except there is no flexibility to fix it

I usually wait to see what changes actually happen during an off-season before deciding whether I'm going to be excited about the team or not. Apparently, you don't even have to wait until the off-season even starts. That's a special kind of talent.

 

[kjironman1]

define what "years" mean to you.

I was actually pretty sure 3 years ago they were missing the playoffs and would pretty much be garbage all year. Didn't happen that way. Thing is some will say that was the problem. If they would have tanked or at least really sucked they could have got that third high draft pick to go along with CJ and Dame. I understand the tanking to get better. But that isn't the way this is going. Blame Olshey all they want but every game they are right there with us rooting for the team to do well. Unless of course they are hoping every game is a loss.

 

[CupWizier]

I was actually pretty sure 3 years ago they were missing the playoffs and would pretty much be garbage all year. Didn't happen that way. Thing is some will say that was the problem. If they would have tanked or at least really sucked they could have got that third high draft pick to go along with CJ and Dame. I understand the tanking to get better. But that isn't the way this is going. Blame Olshey all they want but every game they are right there with us rooting for the team to do well. Unless of course they are hoping every game is a loss.

Was that the year ESPN predicted 26 wins for the team? and it was after we replaced 4 starters?

 

[Orion Bailey]

That’s exactly what Neil wants... for people to just quiet down and go away

You are not getting my point I don't think.

You can quiet down without going away. Do you really think NO is reading your posts saying... "oh shit. .this guy wont shut up. I better get off my ass...."

 

[Lanny]

I’m gonna keep saying it loud so people don’t forget what a flaming turd this season was... fans deserve change. People have short memories so they will forgot and let Neil sell his “patience” narrative and be content with all his fuckups... until something changes I will keep reminding people... it’s unacceptable as a fan to have no accountability for the complete and utter failure in the playoffs... someone has to pay... either Neil or Terry fired or CJ traded... will keep posting til one of those happens

A flaming turd? You don't say.

 

[dviss1]

The narrative that the Pels were a bad match up is selective thinking. This team limped into the playoffs getting their butts kicked by the Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and Denver in crucial games. The team was showing cracks well before AD and Holiday dismantled them.

Making roster changes is a needed and it not simply a reaction to the Pels sweep.

Sure but then we beat the hottest team in the league holding the rookie of the year to 6-26 shooting.

The only loss to complain about in your lil soliloquy, is the Mavs.

 

[dviss1]

I’m gonna keep saying it loud so people don’t forget what a flaming turd this season was... fans deserve change. People have short memories so they will forgot and let Neil sell his “patience” narrative and be content with all his fuckups... until something changes I will keep reminding people... it’s unacceptable as a fan to have no accountability for the complete and utter failure in the playoffs... someone has to pay... either Neil or Terry fired or CJ traded... will keep posting til one of those happens

You've done nothing but annoy me since you joined.

It's just the same recycled bullshit. Wash, rinse, repeat.