Politics IMPEACHMENT 2020: THE BIG SNOOZE

[e_blazer]

I’m a little surprised that there isn’t a running thread on here about every development in the Senate impeachment trial. Then again, I guess it’s like trying to get excited about a mystery novel when you already know who done it.

I’m glancing at headlines and watching a couple of YouTube clips a day. Maybe fifteen minutes total. How about you?

 

[Shaboid]

I have one word.

MILK

 

[julius]

Since I already know that the turtle is going to help the orange get off here, (tho he will still be an impeached president), I don't care to watch or listen.

Why get myself up for disappointment.

 

[oldfisherman]

The lynch Trump party started the day he took office.

The question now becomes. Did Trump con his way into enough rope to hang himself?

The two party system at its worst.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Burn out. The Mueller shit didn't pan out for the dems so here we are. People don't really care anymore.

Its the Boy Who Cried Wolf, in real time.

 

[ABM]

I have it on with the sound off. I glance up occasionally. Kinda like a baseball game. Ya look up if something seemingly interesting is happening.

 

[CupWizier]

This snapshot of a few republican senators tells it all.

 

[Chris Craig]

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else."

Theodore Roosevelt

 

[CupWizier]

Burn out. The Mueller shit didn't pan out for the dems so here we are. People don't really care anymore.

Its the Boy Who Cried Wolf, in real time.

Must be why 70% of the people say there should be witnesses and documents presented in the senate hearing. The sham is in the way this trial is being manipulated to avoid the truth.

 

[Chris Craig]

"When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the ability of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanor—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may 'ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.'"

Alexander Hamilton

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Must be why 70% of the people say there should be witnesses and documents presented in the senate hearing. The sham is in the way this trial is being manipulated to avoid the truth.

70% of who? Democrats out to get Trump?

What witnesses and documents, only those they deem relevant themselves?

There is no "truth" here. Both sides have an agenda and they are both assholes for their own personal glory. They give zero fucks about the country, they just want themselves to look good and grandstand. Fuck them all.

 

[Propagandist]

Burn out. The Mueller shit didn't pan out for the dems so here we are. People don't really care anymore.

Its the Boy Who Cried Wolf, in real time.

You can't actually believe your posts...can you?

BEFORE Trump took office he was as shady as they come. He has never been a good guy: cheating on taxes and wives, lying and abusing and slimeballing etc. The only difference now is that Republicans have hitched their carts to his pony. Mueller's report wasn't a failure. The failure was that we've given the Executive Branch way too much leeway.

The truth, Mr El Presidente, is that Trump has destroyed the Republican party. There is no debate that he is a disgrace to humanity, but now he's dragged all that follow down into the hole that he's in. Best of luck getting out in the years to come.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You can't actually believe your posts...can you?

BEFORE Trump took office he was as shady as they come. He has never been a good guy: cheating on taxes and wives, lying and abusing and slimeballing etc. The only difference now is that Republicans have hitched their carts to his pony. Mueller's report wasn't a failure. The failure was that we've given the Executive Branch way too much leeway.

The truth, Mr El Presidente, is that Trump has destroyed the Republican party. There is no debate that he is a disgrace to humanity, but now he's dragged all that follow down into the hole that he's in. Best of luck getting out in the years to come.

Trump isn't a good guy, but neither are the dems or republicans. He's a dick. So are all the politicians. They are all scumbag shitbags.

They all suck. I care very little about politics to be honest. Because all of them are assholes. "Destroyed the republican party". Give me a fucking break, both parties are broken, and if you can't see that you are part of the problem. Look at these dipshits the democrats are parading around for President, they are a joke.

The huge waste of space these politicians are is being exposed for all to see.

 

[barfo]

There is no "truth" here. Both sides have an agenda and they are both assholes for their own personal glory. They give zero fucks about the country, they just want themselves to look good and grandstand. Fuck them all.

That's a convenient thing to say when you are trying to defend the indefensible.

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

Must be why 70% of the people say there should be witnesses and documents presented in the senate hearing. The sham is in the way this trial is being manipulated to avoid the truth.

The House bungled their handling of the impeachment so badly that it’s really hard to make that argument with a straight face. They subpoenaed a bunch of people from Trump’s inner circle, then failed to fight his claims of executive privilege through the courts because of the need to avoid delay, and then Pelosi sits on the articles for almost a month? And now they want to use the Senate process to get the testimony that they should have obtained in the House?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

That's a convenient thing to say when you are trying to defend the indefensible.

barfo

Whats the indefensible?

 

[barfo]

Trump isn't a good guy, but neither are the dems or republicans. He's a dick. So are all the politicians. They are all scumbag shitbags.

I suppose you could just as justifiably say all humans are scumbag shitbags.

But there is a range. Some of us are less scumbag shitbags than others.

Making excuses for the biggest shitbags is not something that helps anyone.

barfo

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I suppose you could just as justifiably say all humans are scumbag shitbags.

But there is a range. Some of us are less scumbag shitbags than others.

Making excuses for the biggest shitbags is not something that helps anyone.

barfo

Yes, humans are bad by nature.

Politicians are right there at the top.

 

[barfo]

Whats the indefensible?

What's indefensible is Trump.

barfo

 

[Propagandist]

70% of who? Democrats out to get Trump?

What witnesses and documents, only those they deem relevant themselves?

There is no "truth" here. Both sides have an agenda and they are both assholes for their own personal glory. They give zero fucks about the country, they just want themselves to look good and grandstand. Fuck them all.

Asking for witnesses and documents is in your opinion an agenda? Lol. Just like all prosecutors when charging someone with a crime maybe? Who usually wants witnesses and documents (or more commonly known as "evidence") hidden from view? The innocent, right?

Gtfo. The giving zero fucks people are those, like you, who vacillate between "he did nothing wrong" and "they all do wrong." People wonder why politics are no longer civil, but it's bullshit like this, this disingenuous snark, fucking it all up.

 

[barfo]

The House bungled their handling of the impeachment so badly that it’s really hard to make that argument with a straight face. They subpoenaed a bunch of people from Trump’s inner circle, then failed to fight his claims of executive privilege through the courts because of the need to avoid delay, and then Pelosi sits on the articles for almost a month? And now they want to use the Senate process to get the testimony that they should have obtained in the House?

Those are just excuses. It might be good politics to make those statements, but they don't make Trump innocent.

barfo

 

[CupWizier]

The House bungled their handling of the impeachment so badly that it’s really hard to make that argument with a straight face. They subpoenaed a bunch of people from Trump’s inner circle, then failed to fight his claims of executive privilege through the courts because of the need to avoid delay, and then Pelosi sits on the articles for almost a month? And now they want to use the Senate process to get the testimony that they should have obtained in the House?

Difference being it would have easily taken more than a year for anything to be decided and the 2020 election would have been over. There hands were tied by trump and his obstruction agenda. Just like how the pubs cry about no first hand witnesses and they were the ones preventing first hand witnesses. Schumer said it best today. He spoke with several republican senators that claim nothing new has been presented in the senate and Schumer points out that they voted 9 times to deny new info to be presented. Can't make this shit up. This trial was already decided way before the impeachment as we have too many people in the senate that have no spines.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What's indefensible is Trump.

barfo

Nah.

 

[Propagandist]

Trump isn't a good guy, but neither are the dems or republicans. He's a dick. So are all the politicians. They are all scumbag shitbags.

They all suck. I care very little about politics to be honest. Because all of them are assholes. "Destroyed the republican party". Give me a fucking break, both parties are broken, and if you can't see that you are part of the problem. Look at these dipshits the democrats are parading around for President, they are a joke.

The huge waste of space these politicians are is being exposed for all to see.

You're an archarchist then? Cool. Thanks for fucking with all of us who care about this stuff.

 

[Propagandist]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You're an archarchist then? Cool. Thanks for fucking with all of us who care about this stuff.

No. I just realize following politics is a waste of fucking time.

But go ahead and care about this important stuff.

 

[Propagandist]

No. I just realize following politics is a waste of fucking time.

But go ahead and care about this important stuff.

LOL! YOU LIVE PRIMARILY IN THE OT SECTION! You comment almost exclusively on political things! All indications point to the fact that this is the important stuff to you.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

LOL! YOU LIVE PRIMARILY IN THE OT SECTION! You comment almost exclusively on political things! All indications point to the fact that this is the important stuff to you.

I make drive-by comments. That's about it. If people had other interesting shit to talk about, I'd probably participate in those discussions as well.

Every once in a while I'll chip in some comments.

Many people are fucking obsessed with politics and news. For the most part, ignore it all, you'll be happier with your life.

 

[e_blazer]

Difference being it would have easily taken more than a year for anything to be decided and the 2020 election would have been over. There hands were tied by trump and his obstruction agenda. Just like how the pubs cry about no first hand witnesses and they were the ones preventing first hand witnesses. Scumer said it best today. He spoke with several republican senators that claim nothing new has been presented in the senate and Schumer points out that they voted 9 times to deny new info to be presented. Can't make this shit up. This trial was already decided way before the impeachment as we have too many people in the senate that have no spines.

And if the Senate allows witnesses, and Trump again claims EP, how is the time spent going to court to compel testimony any shorter? The process is what the process is. Trump is entitled to all the legal and political maneuvering the Constitution allows. And, of course the outcome was known at the outset. Barring some horrible new revelation, there was never any chance he would be removed from office. I’ve said all along that this is pure political theater, with both sides playing to their bases and jockeying for an advantage next fall.

 

[e_blazer]

Those are just excuses. It might be good politics to make those statements, but they don't make Trump innocent.

barfo

I’ve been consistent on here stating that I think Trump is trash. I think there’s not much question about him holding up the aid to gain a favor that was politically advantageous to him. That said, as of right now he is innocent. The Dems have seriously fouled up the process that might prove him guilty. Saying that is “excuses” is kind of silly.