Notice Infowars BANNED from Youtube, Facebook, Spotify, Apple.

[DaLincolnJones]

I liked the "raciest" part better...DLJ never struck me as the raciest person

Thank you.

 

[Further]

I don’tike it. I understand it’s a private company but it worries me to censor any opinions even ones that are harmful and pure BS like infowars. I would much rather YouTube not ban them but 1) stop all adds on that feed so no money is made by either YouTube or Alex Jones from YT, and perhaps a warning and active acceptance to view the material before it plays.

But outright banning - one day my opinions will be counter-culture and then will that be banned?

 

[riverman]

I don’tike it. I understand it’s a private company but it worries me to censor any opinions even ones that are harmful and pure BS like infowars. I would much rather YouTube not ban them but 1) stop all adds on that feed so no money is made by either YouTube or Alex Jones from YT, and perhaps a warning and active acceptance to view the material before it plays.

But outright banning - one day my opinions will be counter-culture and then will that be banned?

They all gave Jones a lot of rope and he put it around his neck....if the American Nazi party started advertising on the Blazers website, or Toyotas website , etc...they'd lose my business...market analysts surely showed that infowars was losing them business...they can ban who they like...they aren't the govt....you realize the Nazi Party and KKK or the American Communist Party would love to be represented in the presidential elections but they are banned as well from any media outlet who sees them as a bad risk for viewership....this is nothing new Bill Maher was fired from ABC for his politically incorrect TV show that aired in competition with Letterman and Leno....he was losing them money and people complained...no more Politically Incorrect show....what's the diff with Infowars?

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

That is a matter of opinion. If you want an example of people saying things that are a danger to others, look no further than Maxine Waters telling people to harass those that you do not agree with. To me Alex Jones is more in line with Art Bell. Most of what he says is to be taken with a grain of salt.





I do not see how you equate these two, but whatever. I am more concerned with freedom of speech.

I have never seen his show or any show regarding politics as I think both sides are raving lunatics only concerned in getting as much cash as they can from us 'regular people.

 

[dviss1]

What the heck are you talking about? What is "My side"? You automatically toss me in with a pile of human garbage simply so you can feel superior and point out that I an raciest. I have not always agreed with you, but often I have stated my respect for you. This kind of shit negates those positives.

Did you vote for the Orange man in office? Do you still support him?

If you do, that's your side.

I have never said that everyone who voted for him is racist. That's simply not true. But after all that's happened, I can unequivocally say his side is racist. Those that have a hard time recognizing this need to decide what side of history they want to reside on.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

if you compared Bill Maher to Alex Jones you'd have the spectrum of opinion based commentary.....the AP news feeds tell me what is happening with world events, volcanos, weather, sports scores..fires...protests etc..don't confuse their editorial columns with news...Bill O'Reilly isn't a newsman....he's a shock jock as are Maher and Jones....I for one am sick of the war against the media by the administration when clearly, there are world problems to solve and address...editorials have always required followers to prop up their own beliefs with those of a public speaker....news is not that. Compare Maher and Jones....not Jones and OPB or the AP news feed shared by the entire world daily. Jimmy Kimmel and Roseanne Bar are not jounalists….many, many brave war correspondents have lost their lives on the battlefield...they are not "fake news"

Yeah..you have some good stuff. I will address as I go through it. Yeah, AP is a great News Feed. I also have stated that I am tired of the President fighting the little battles with the media. Hmm, Bill O is a mixed bag..just like his books. I have read them all, although they, I am quite sure by design, all read the same, so meh.

As far as AP and OPB being equal, I would differ with you on that. In fact I have made a practice of cross checking stories to see who covers them, and how, and OPB always has a very left leaning slant, while AP is usually just the facts.

To hit the patriotism button, with war correspondents is almost the funniest thing I have read today, brings to mind hillery "under fire" and imagining some of the talking heads performing anything of the kind as laughable.

Thank you for your insight, though.

 

[Lanny]

I do not remember, although it was one of the regulars. It will probably hit me at three this AM.

Please don't call when it hits you.

 

[barfo]

The guy is a self professed conspiracy theorist. Not my cup of tea. Where I have a problem with this is he is no worse than many "news" program on air. To shut him down across the board sets a bad precedence.

Which news programs specifically do you think are equally as bad as him?

barfo

It is pretty easy to go across the dial and see opinion reported as "news". OPB, PBS, CNN, MSLSD, Fox...

And which of those engage in conspiracy theories as ridiculous and harmful as Infowars does?

barfo

That is a matter of opinion. If you want an example of people saying things that are a danger to others, look no further than Maxine Waters telling people to harass those that you do not agree with.

No, that is not what I want. Maxine Waters is not a news network or an employee of one. I want an example of one of the networks you listed pushing conspiracy theories equivalent to the ones Alex Jones pushes.

To me Alex Jones is more in line with Art Bell. Most of what he says is to be taken with a grain of salt.

Only most? What does he say that you find credible?

I am more concerned with freedom of speech.

Alex Jones is free to keep talking.

barfo

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

I don’tike it. I understand it’s a private company but it worries me to censor any opinions even ones that are harmful and pure BS like infowars. I would much rather YouTube not ban them but 1) stop all adds on that feed so no money is made by either YouTube or Alex Jones from YT, and perhaps a warning and active acceptance to view the material before it plays.

But outright banning - one day my opinions will be counter-culture and then will that be banned?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I don’tike it. I understand it’s a private company but it worries me to censor any opinions even ones that are harmful and pure BS like infowars. I would much rather YouTube not ban them but 1) stop all adds on that feed so no money is made by either YouTube or Alex Jones from YT, and perhaps a warning and active acceptance to view the material before it plays.

But outright banning - one day my opinions will be counter-culture and then will that be banned?

Yeah..I have seen some outrageous stuff on YouTube, that never got a sniff. What is even more suspicious is that it was not just one medium, but all of them at the same time.

 

[riverman]

To hit the patriotism button, with war correspondents is almost the funniest thing I have read today

I worked first hand with photo journalists and war correspondents in Viet Nam....nothing funny about what these folks did to report on the war...some died doing their jobs....we as radiomen got to censor their work by Nixon's directive to ….slant the news feed to make us look better than the truth showed after the fact....took a big eraser to things we weren't supposed to give to the media...don't confuse these folks with Oprah and Sean Hannity...some brave people...the photo journalists were among the bravest...didn't write a word...just documented the war with the picture is worth a thousand words mentality...makes me sick to see them called, "fakenews"

 

[Lanny]

I worked first hand with photo journalists and war correspondents in Viet Nam....nothing funny about what these folks did to report on the war...some died doing their jobs....we as radiomen got to censor their work by Nixon's directive to ….slant the news feed to make us look better than the truth showed after the fact....took a big eraser to things we weren't supposed to give to the media...don't confuse these folks with Oprah and Sean Hannity...some brave people...the photo journalists were among the bravest...didn't write a word...just documented the war with the picture is worth a thousand words mentality

A lot of that slanting of the news was due to General Westmoreland.

 

[riverman]

A lot of that slanting of the news was due to General Westmoreland.

He towed the Nixon line.....there was a culture of what they don't see won't hurt them...right up to the end of the war

 

[DaLincolnJones]

No, that is not what I want. Maxine Waters is not a news network or an employee of one. I want an example of one of the networks you listed pushing conspiracy theories equivalent to the ones Alex Jones pushes.



Only most? What does he say that you find credible?



Alex Jones is free to keep talking.

barfo

Barfo bubby, You are not going to get me to defend what he says. Heck, I have more than likely seen as much of him as you have. I equate him with a lot of the talking heads up and down the dial. So, Maxine is not a news person, she is in a more dangerous position in the job she occupies.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I worked first hand with photo journalists and war correspondents in Viet Nam....nothing funny about what these folks did to report on the war...some died doing their jobs....we as radiomen got to censor their work by Nixon's directive to ….slant the news feed to make us look better than the truth showed after the fact....took a big eraser to things we weren't supposed to give to the media...don't confuse these folks with Oprah and Sean Hannity...some brave people...the photo journalists were among the bravest...didn't write a word...just documented the war with the picture is worth a thousand words mentality...makes me sick to see them called, "fakenews"

River, those self sacrificing people you works with are a far cry from the self serving bags of hot air we are unfortunate to have on air at this time.

 

[riverman]

River, those self sacrificing people you works with are a far cry from the self serving bags of hot air we are unfortunate to have on air at this time.

war correspondents are not new anchors generally....most of them work completely out of the spot light....there are fluff anchors hired for their good teeth and full head of hair and there are the scarred, alcoholic front line journalists who wouldn't sniff a major news anchor job...most would have a hard time not cussing on air

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Did you vote for the Orange man in office? Do you still support him?

If you do, that's your side.

I have never said that everyone who voted for him is racist. That's simply not true. But after all that's happened, I can unequivocally say his side is racist. Those that have a hard time recognizing this need to decide what side of history they want to reside on.

D, I really hope that you do not truly believe that if someone does not agree with you, that they must be raciest by proxy in the very least.

Hey! do you like orange juice? well, then you are like Anita Bryant and hate gay people.........weak souse

 

[barfo]

Barfo bubby, You are not going to get me to defend what he says.

Not asking you to defend what he says. Asking you to defend what you said.

Heck, I have more than likely seen as much of him as you have. I equate him with a lot of the talking heads up and down the dial.

It's that equating that I'm asking you to defend. How are they equal?

So, Maxine is not a news person, she is in a more dangerous position in the job she occupies.

I guess one could argue over whether a congressperson or a news network is more powerful, but anyway, I'm not seeing an equality between Maxine Waters and Alex Jones of any sort. And you still haven't defended your claim that he's no worse than news programs.

barfo

 

[Further]

I would rather YouTube mark them as Nazi /KKK or whatever but not stop the information. I hate that talk but if we ban ithen we don’t fight against it accurately

They all gave Jones a lot of rope and he put it around his neck....if the American Nazi party started advertising on the Blazers website, or Toyotas website , etc...they'd lose my business...market analysts surely showed that infowars was losing them business...they can ban who they like...they aren't the govt....you realize the Nazi Party and KKK or the American Communist Party would love to be represented in the presidential elections but they are banned as well from any media outlet who sees them as a bad risk for viewership....this is nothing new Bill Maher was fired from ABC for his politically incorrect TV show that aired in competition with Letterman and Leno....he was losing them money and people complained...no more Politically Incorrect show....what's the diff with Infowars?

 

[riverman]

I would rather YouTube mark them as Nazi /KKK or whatever but not stop the information. I hate that talk but if we ban ithen we don’t fight against it accurately

Nobody stops them from building their own website, having their Grand Wazoo Gestapo gatherings...playing with snakes in the swamp....but privately owned companies don't have to allow them to advertise or give them airtime any more than they have to let tobacco advertise or pornographers to advertise...choices...

 

[Cippy91]

If anything this recent banning just confirms certain things Jones has said about these big companies. I don’t agree with him most of the time but he’s harmless. What happened to free speech? It’s being taken away very slowly. Jones wasn’t spewing hate speech. Just being whacky and talking about whacky conspiracies. There are worse things on YouTube than Alex that will go on to exist on YouTube

 

[riverman]

If anything this recent banning just confirms certain things Jones has said about these big companies. I don’t agree with him most of the time but he’s harmless. What happened to free speech? It’s being taken away very slowly. Jones wasn’t spewing hate speech. Just being whacky and talking about whacky conspiracies. There are worse things on YouTube than Alex that will go on to exist on YouTube

as barfo pointed out...Jones has free speech...just not a prime location for his soap box ...he can say whatever he wants....facebook and youtube can block anyone they want. No law stops them from doing that. You can still go to his website and listen to him everyday...if he joined this forum... hell I could get Sly to ban him for 50 bucks....first time he threatens to shoot someone I promise he gets the ban hammer...as he should. If facebook and youtube ban him you too are free to not support their websites in protest...or write to them and complain about it...they don't have to give a shit though...they're all for profits and traffic.

 

[barfo]

I don’t agree with him most of the time but he’s harmless.

Most of the time?

The sandy hook parents disagree with you that he's harmless. As does the yogurt company...

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Infowars BANNED from Youtube, Facebook, Spotify, Apple.

Seems like an opportunity to create WhiteTube, Whitebook, Whiteify, and Whiple, to me.

 

[barfo]

Seems like an opportunity to create WhiteTube, Whitebook, Whiteify, and Whiple, to me.

Maybe, but I think my companies YouWhite, WhiteFace, WhiteSpot, and WhiteApp, are going to dominate the market.

Edit: Sheed is going to be the spokesperson for WhiteSpot.

barfo

 

[DaLincolnJones]

as barfo pointed out...Jones has free speech...just not a prime location for his soap box ...he can say whatever he wants....facebook and youtube can block anyone they want. No law stops them from doing that. You can still go to his website and listen to him everyday...if he joined this forum... hell I could get Sly to ban him for 50 bucks....first time he threatens to shoot someone I promise he gets the ban hammer...as he should. If facebook and youtube ban him you too are free to not support their websites in protest...or write to them and complain about it...they don't have to give a shit though...they're all for profits and traffic.

I suppose you are correct.

Do you want these major social platforms deciding who and what you are to be exposed to?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I suppose you are correct.

Do you want these major social platforms deciding who and what you are to be exposed to?

They do that anyways.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

They do that anyways.

Yeah, by controlling algorithms. I get that. Did Facebook just pledge to be equal in content a short time before the pledged to stop bulling?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Yeah, by controlling algorithms. I get that. Did Facebook just pledge to be equal in content a short time before the pledged to stop bulling?

No algorithm can make me stop bullying people on facebook!

 

[barfo]

No algorithm can make me stop bullying people on facebook!

Be best.

barfo