Injury Excuse Propaganda

[Neil O. Shyster]

I have been reading this forum for a while now and finally felt like I needed to post. I am just sick of this false injury excuse that is being pushed by all the local media. Injuries are part of the game. When your 2 best players are still healthy getting paid 80 mil per year and you are 5 games below .500 close to mid season this is a pathetic excuse to eliminate accountability and for Neil to keep the status quo.

1) Nurk injury was baked into cake. Blazers made western conference finals without Nurk, and actually replaced him with arguably a better player in Whiteside. So going from no Nurk, to adding Whiteside is actually a big upgrade. And the team was talking title knowing Nurk would be out this season.

2) Zach Collins was averaging 9 points and 4 rebounds before injury this year. If Collins doesn’t get injured, Carmelo probably doesn’t sign with Blazers. Carmelo’s inside game and scoring arguably provided a bigger impact than what Zach was giving.

3) Blazers had a below .500 record with Rodney Hood.

4) Teams with injury’s to better players have beaten the Blazers. Losing to Warriors with Steph, Klay... Kings without Fox, Bagley... Cavs without Love... I could go on. So they are making excuse for losing 4th or 5th best player while losing to teams missing 1st or 2nd beat player.

This team caught lightning in a bottle last year. Being dead last in NBA in passing and assist is not a recipe for success, yet Neil doubles down. This ISO ball style is the true culprit and until CJ is traded I just can’t see anything changing.

 

[tlongII]

Lol wut?

 

[julius]

It's pretty sad that someone made a fake account just to make this post.

 

[Propagandist]

I have been reading this forum for a while now and finally felt like I needed to post. I am just sick of this false injury excuse that is being pushed by all the local media. Injuries are part of the game. When your 2 best players are still healthy getting paid 80 mil per year and you are 5 games below .500 close to mid season this is a pathetic excuse to eliminate accountability and for Neil to keep the status quo.

1) Nurk injury was baked into cake. Blazers made western conference finals without Nurk, and actually replaced him with arguably a better player in Whiteside. So going from no Nurk, to adding Whiteside is actually a big upgrade. And the team was talking title knowing Nurk would be out this season.

2) Zach Collins was averaging 9 points and 4 rebounds before injury this year. If Collins doesn’t get injured, Carmelo probably doesn’t sign with Blazers. Carmelo’s inside game and scoring arguably provided a bigger impact than what Zach was giving.

3) Blazers had a below .500 record with Rodney Hood.

4) Teams with injury’s to better players have beaten the Blazers. Losing to Warriors with Steph, Klay... Kings without Fox, Bagley... Cavs without Love... I could go on. So they are making excuse for losing 4th or 5th best player while losing to teams missing 1st or 2nd beat player.

This team caught lightning in a bottle last year. Being dead last in NBA in passing and assist is not a recipe for success, yet Neil doubles down. This ISO ball style is the true culprit and until CJ is traded I just can’t see anything changing.

Hey man! Long time! How's LA?

And let me guess: Dame is lazy.

(And not to nitpick, but seeing "injuries" written as "injury's" hurts bad, real bad.)

 

[Chris Craig]

 

[Chris Craig]

 

[Neil O. Shyster]

Hey man! Long time! How's LA?

And let me guess: Dame is lazy.

(And not to nitpick, but seeing "injuries" written as "injury's" hurts bad, real bad.)

I love Dame... I think he has ability to win a title with a balanced team around him. I just don’t like him paired with CJ and committing 70% of our salary cap to an undersized backcourt. Pairing Dame with ISO ball CJ is why we are dead last in assists. A full assist per game worse than the Knicks. Unfortunately, Neil will not even entertain the idea of trying something different. His ego is to big and he will go down with the sinking ship before offering CJ in a trade.

 

[Dougnsalem]

It's pretty sad that someone made a fake account just to make this post.

Dang it Sly! Stop doing that!!!

 

[BonesJones]

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As a Mod that's how you welcome a new member to the forum whos respectfully sharing his opinion?

 

[CupWizier]

Hey man! Long time! How's LA?

And let me guess: Dame is lazy.

(And not to nitpick, but seeing "injuries" written as "injury's" hurts bad, real bad.)

We all know this is tunchi right?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

As a Mod that's how you welcome a new member to the forum whos respectfully sharing his opinion?

What's wrong with it? Not an insult.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We all know this is tunchi right?

Actually we don't know that.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I have been reading this forum for a while now and finally felt like I needed to post. I am just sick of this false injury excuse that is being pushed by all the local media. Injuries are part of the game. When your 2 best players are still healthy getting paid 80 mil per year and you are 5 games below .500 close to mid season this is a pathetic excuse to eliminate accountability and for Neil to keep the status quo.

1) Nurk injury was baked into cake. Blazers made western conference finals without Nurk, and actually replaced him with arguably a better player in Whiteside. So going from no Nurk, to adding Whiteside is actually a big upgrade. And the team was talking title knowing Nurk would be out this season.

2) Zach Collins was averaging 9 points and 4 rebounds before injury this year. If Collins doesn’t get injured, Carmelo probably doesn’t sign with Blazers. Carmelo’s inside game and scoring arguably provided a bigger impact than what Zach was giving.

3) Blazers had a below .500 record with Rodney Hood.

4) Teams with injury’s to better players have beaten the Blazers. Losing to Warriors with Steph, Klay... Kings without Fox, Bagley... Cavs without Love... I could go on. So they are making excuse for losing 4th or 5th best player while losing to teams missing 1st or 2nd beat player.

This team caught lightning in a bottle last year. Being dead last in NBA in passing and assist is not a recipe for success, yet Neil doubles down. This ISO ball style is the true culprit and until CJ is traded I just can’t see anything changing.

Welcome, it's nice to have you here.

 

[Neil O. Shyster]

As a Mod that's how you welcome a new member to the forum whos respectfully sharing his opinion?

Thanks man. I thought I made some valid points. This feels like a communist forum where everyone has to agree with the company talking points. No one disputed anything I said and just disregards my post because it’s not all rainbows and butterflies.

 

[Strenuus]

Thanks man. I thought I made some valid points. This feels like a communist forum where everyone has to agree with the company talking points. No one disputed anything I said and just disregards my post because it’s not all rainbows and butterflies.

Seriously? Have you read this forum? Theres way more dissention than there is agreement.

 

[tlongII]

Thanks man. I thought I made some valid points. This feels like a communist forum where everyone has to agree with the company talking points. No one disputed anything I said and just disregards my post because it’s not all rainbows and butterflies.

I agree this forum is filled with commies but you get used to it after a while.

 

[CupWizier]

Actually we don't know that.

Get with the program. All new posters are tunchi. At least according to some of the posters on this forum.

 

[Neil O. Shyster]

Another way to look at it... 85% of Neil’s salary cap allocation is available to play. So missing 15% of Neil’s salary cap allocation is excuse for being 5 games under .500 for a team who was in western conference finals last season. Even if you take away Nurk, Zach, and Hood completely... Neil is way over the salary cap for a team that is 5 games under .500.

 

[wizenheimer]

Welcome, it's nice to have you here.

I know this much: when a dog come at you in a welcoming way, grinning and wagging his tail, don't turn your back or expose your leg

 

[Neil O. Shyster]

Welcome, it's nice to have you here.

Thanks!

 

[GhostOfPGA]

Well considering we flipped most the roster, this team already had no on court chemistry... then sprinkle in injuries aaaaaaaand we suck. Shit happens.

 

[oldfisherman]

The OP raises a valid question.

When there is a solid system in place, replacing a part of the system/player, should not result in a huge change in production.

The problem is. The system being used by the Blazer's roster is flawed.

I used roster, not team. This roster does not have system in place that results in "team play" on a consistent bases.

Therefore, when players are replaced, for what ever reason, including injuries. The results are not good. Especially when players that can cover up some of the flaws in the system are replaced by players that can not cover up flaws.

Last season, the players had developed a better system to deal with the flaws. Resulting in better "team play". Not so this season.

Hope "team play" improves this season.

 

[TBpup]

Thought @Neil O. Shyster raised some valid points and did so in a well written manner. When you have Dame/CJ + Whiteside and then Melo, you should not be losing to nearly as many of the teams they are losing too. That is WAY more talent then some of the opposing rosters have had.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Thought @Neil O. Shyster raised some valid points and did so in a well written manner. When you have Dame/CJ + Whiteside and then Curry, you should not be losing to nearly as many of the teams they are losing too. That is WAY more talent then some of the opposing rosters have had.

Curry?

 

[TBpup]

Curry?

No idea why I typed Curry instead of Melo'. It's been a travel day....but not that much. Thanks for the catch.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

No idea why I typed Curry instead of Melo'. It's been a travel day....but not that much. Thanks for the catch.

Oh! No worries I was just confused.

 

[BBert]

I don't blame our injuries. I blame the hubris of Neil Olshyster (not affiliated with Neil O. Shyster) turning over half the roster of a conference finals team and expecting to be a contender. What happened to recognizing the strength of roster continuity?

 

[Lanny]

I have been reading this forum for a while now and finally felt like I needed to post. I am just sick of this false injury excuse that is being pushed by all the local media. Injuries are part of the game. When your 2 best players are still healthy getting paid 80 mil per year and you are 5 games below .500 close to mid season this is a pathetic excuse to eliminate accountability and for Neil to keep the status quo.

1) Nurk injury was baked into cake. Blazers made western conference finals without Nurk, and actually replaced him with arguably a better player in Whiteside. So going from no Nurk, to adding Whiteside is actually a big upgrade. And the team was talking title knowing Nurk would be out this season.

2) Zach Collins was averaging 9 points and 4 rebounds before injury this year. If Collins doesn’t get injured, Carmelo probably doesn’t sign with Blazers. Carmelo’s inside game and scoring arguably provided a bigger impact than what Zach was giving.

3) Blazers had a below .500 record with Rodney Hood.

4) Teams with injury’s to better players have beaten the Blazers. Losing to Warriors with Steph, Klay... Kings without Fox, Bagley... Cavs without Love... I could go on. So they are making excuse for losing 4th or 5th best player while losing to teams missing 1st or 2nd beat player.

This team caught lightning in a bottle last year. Being dead last in NBA in passing and assist is not a recipe for success, yet Neil doubles down. This ISO ball style is the true culprit and until CJ is traded I just can’t see anything changing.

The Blazers' record without Hood included some injuries to other key players.
I'm going to disagree and say that although you can't exclude injuries from the win-loss record you have to consider them as a factor in that record. To do otherwise is insanity meaning that there is no logic in that thinking.

 

[Neil O. Shyster]

The Blazers' record without Hood included some injuries to other key players.
I'm going to disagree and say that although you can't exclude injuries from the win-loss record you have to consider them as a factor in that record. To do otherwise is insanity meaning that there is no logic in that thinking.

Insanity??! No logic??! To expect more than 5 games under .500 when your 2 best players making 80 mil per year are healthy??! So if Montrez Harrell and Mo Harkless are out then you should expect Clippers to be 5 games under .500

 

[Lanny]

Insanity??! No logic??! To expect more than 5 games under .500 when your 2 best players making 80 mil per year are healthy??! So if Montrez Harrell and Mo Harkless are out then you should expect Clippers to be 5 games under .500

Logic? How can you expect your team to play at the same level when suffering injuries to key personnel? And by key personnel I'm referring to starters and key bench players. Now, where is the logic in that? How are the warriors doing with their injuries? Should they fire Kerr?