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If you're Trump, do you retaliate or let it go?

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Chris Craig said:
Leaving Syria and now attacking Iran who is showing us the door, has dramatically changed the geo-political map.

The middle east will solidify against us. We had a foot in the door to stop this, but a few ignorant decisions by Trump has fucked us.
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You can't say the middle East will solidify against us because the majority of Muslims are not Shiites. Iran is in the Islamic minority.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Not defending Trump at all, but we have at least half a centuries worth of "bad decisions" on the Middle East, but because it's Trump making bad decisions, were now going to act like wow he's done all of this, he's the one who really screwed it up. We haven't had a president that handled the Middle East well in my life time.
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Were you born after Jimmy Carter?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
If he de-escalates and can "look" like a president of peace does that increase his chance for re-election?
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Nope. He isnt getting re-elected unless he cheats the system. Theres just far too much truthful bad about him to even be close to winning a fair election.
 
Lanny said:
If they have a nuke soon, and I believe they will, it will be thanks to Trump who killed the deal on Iran's nukes.
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They only couldn't build one because they lacked the money to do so.

Obama/Kerry gave them all they needed and they never even slowed down.

They never held up a single part of the "agreement", which America never agreed to anyway.
 
Strenuus said:
Nope. He isnt getting re-elected unless he cheats the system. Theres just far too much truthful bad about him to even be close to winning a fair election.
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You know he would beat Bernie and lose the popular vote by 15 million don't you?

Warren would probably still win the popular vote by a million or two and lose.

Why do you think they drag Biden out of assisted living and draft a nobody like Buttigggggiieegg?

That's why the DNC cheated Bernie and will cheat him again if they have to.

Even with the tariffs hurting some people in flyover country they will still vote against the open border socialist crowd every time.

They'd vote for evil Star Trek goatee Trump over that.
 
Strenuus said:
Nope. He isnt getting re-elected unless he cheats the system. Theres just far too much truthful bad about him to even be close to winning a fair election.
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I just dont know... I think he’s gonna win again. It seems like the GOP is playing chess while the DNC is playing checkers. Id rather have someone else, but more and more I think Trumps going to win again.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I just dont know... I think he’s gonna win again. It seems like the GOP is playing chess while the DNC is playing checkers. Id rather have someone else, but more and more I think Trumps going to win again.
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What are the chess moves you see being made?

I'd say the DNC is playing checkers and the RNC is playing mumblety-peg.


barfo
 
barfo said:
What are the chess moves you see being made?

I'd say the DNC is playing checkers and the RNC is playing mumblety-peg.


barfo
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Well, for one the impeachment thing I think that helps Trump, unless they actually get the senate to kick him out office.
Two his “deathcount” in the middle east is still very low by the standards of the US Presidents. If he comes out of this with killing a guy I think most people agree with, was a not good guy, and the repercussions are missiles fired into dirt, Trump can come away as the guy who killed the least amount over there. Which, I think he’ll use a lot in his campaign, as a lot of his opponents said having him at the helm hes going to start WW3, in fact I think a lot of people, on this site have talked like they almost want him to start ww3 for whatever reasons...

It just seems like in terms of the electoral college he’s playing his cards well for most of the swing states and the DNC is playing to their base states they werent going to lose in anyways (Like Cali, OR, Wash, etc.).

Obviously a long ways to go though so who knows.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I just dont know... I think he’s gonna win again. It seems like the GOP is playing chess while the DNC is playing checkers. Id rather have someone else, but more and more I think Trumps going to win again.
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If Trump survives being removed from office, the only way he wins re-election is if the Russians once again help him and if the Dems actually once again manage to somehow nominate someone less desirable than Hillary fucking Clinton.
 
barfo said:
What are the chess moves you see being made?

I'd say the DNC is playing checkers and the RNC is playing mumblety-peg.


barfo
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Kick the can?
 
yankeesince59 said:
If Trump survives being removed from office, the only way he wins re-election is if the Russians once again help him and if the Dems actually once again manage to somehow nominate someone less desirable than Hillary fucking Clinton.
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Personally, Id be more concerned about the Dem's nominating someone less desirable than HfC.
If Bernie or EW get the nomination, i'm going disappointed as I just don't believe the country is ready for a socialist ultra progressive country. Just my opinion, and I like the rest of you could be right or wrong!
 
Hoopguru said:
Personally, Id be more concerned about the Dem's nominating someone less desirable than HfC.
If Bernie or EW get the nomination, i'm going disappointed as I just don't believe the country is ready for a socialist ultra progressive country. Just my opinion, and I like the rest of you could be right or wrong!
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Yeah, both Bernie and Warren are just too far left to suit me...and they both have that crazy wide-eyed look when they are speaking.

...almost like meth heads. :shock2:
 
yankeesince59 said:
Yeah, both Bernie and Warren are just too far left to suit me...and they both have that crazy wide-eyed look when they are speaking.

...almost like meth heads. :shock2:
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thats funny! One of the three old dudes, Bloom, Joe , Sti will be the nominee. I wouldn't mind Amy though.
 
The DNC is playing darts, and the dartboard is on the wall behind them.
 
Hoopguru said:
thats funny! One of the three old dudes, Bloom, Joe , Sti will be the nominee. I wouldn't mind Amy though.
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I actually like Klobuchar, always have. I also like Pete, but I think his sexual preference will hurt him with many voters.

I could live with Bloomberg or Steyer...and they have plenty of money to campaign with.
 
MARIS61 said:
They only couldn't build one because they lacked the money to do so.

Obama/Kerry gave them all they needed and they never even slowed down.

They never held up a single part of the "agreement", which America never agreed to anyway.
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It was their money for crying out loud. It was only frozen because of their nuclear development. Once the nuclear deal was signed there was no reason to withhold their money except to satisfy some twisted logic or should I say illogical thought by the Trump cult.
 
Hoopguru said:
thats funny! One of the three old dudes, Bloom, Joe , Sti will be the nominee. I wouldn't mind Amy though.
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I wouldn't count Mayor Pete out just yet.
 
Lanny said:
I wouldn't count Mayor Pete out just yet.
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Never counted him in.

Complete failure in his only attempt at tiny Town mayoring.

Stated intention to ignore the Constitution and also the laws enacted by Congress.
 
MARIS61 said:
Never counted him in.

Complete failure in his only attempt at tiny Town mayoring.

Stated intention to ignore the Constitution and also the laws enacted by Congress.
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LOL...the perfect reverse barometer shits the bed again.
 
MARIS61 said:
Never counted him in.

Complete failure in his only attempt at tiny Town mayoring.

Stated intention to ignore the Constitution and also the laws enacted by Congress.
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Uhhh. Again, he's a DNC draft pick puppet.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Uhhh. Again, he's a DNC draft pick puppet.
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That doesn't make sense and here's why.
He's a homosexual and would lose votes in a general election just because of that. They want to beat Trump in the worst way so you'd think they'd pick someone, if they were the picking sort, who would get the most votes rather than Mayor Pete.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Uhhh. Again, he's a DNC draft pick puppet.
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That seems like a very weird claim. You could make that accusation against Joe Biden, and it would have some merit. Or arguably any of the senators in the race.

Pete might have centrist policies, but he's not part of the party establishment, nor does anyone see 2020 as being 'his turn'. Quite the opposite.

barfo
 
MARIS61 said:
Never counted him in.

Complete failure in his only attempt at tiny Town mayoring.

Stated intention to ignore the Constitution and also the laws enacted by Congress.
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You should love him then. Hes just like trump.
 
barfo said:
That seems like a very weird claim. You could make that accusation against Joe Biden, and it would have some merit. Or arguably any of the senators in the race.

Pete might have centrist policies, but he's not part of the party establishment, nor does anyone see 2020 as being 'his turn'. Quite the opposite.

barfo
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Idk Pete is basically young gay Biden and Amy is basically young female Biden. Feel free to pick your Biden flavor.
 
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