Is Brandon Roy a long time All-Star?

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So because B-Roy was an All-Star last season, wouldn't it make sense that he'll be an All-Star this year and going forward because now he's not the primary/only concern of the opposing defense going forward?

I say he will be a long time All-Star because of the talent that surrounds him.

Your thoughts....
 
I'm not sure if Roy will be on the All-Star team year in, year out, but I do know we will be well represented on All-Star weekend for the next 10 years.
 
It's hard to say, but based on the league-wide respect that coaches and players alike seem to have for him (and rightfully so), I see no reason why that respect would decrease as our team gets better (hopefully). I would definitely think he'd be voted in by the coaches many times over in the coming years. Not sure if anyone from Portland other than maybe Greg will ever be voted in as a starter by the fans, just because of our smallish population and the fact that their are Kobe's and Duncan's in the league. The center position is probably the weakest, and Greg is already hugely popular and well-known.

edit - Actually I forgot that Yao Ming has billions of Chinese fans who will probably vote him in as a starter every year till he retires, so I don't know if we'll ever have a starter : )
 
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Will Roy be a perennial All-star? That's a tough call, I think there was a pretty strong case that he got in when some possibly more deserving guys were snubbed (Deron Williams, and Baron Davis to name two) I think it all comes down to how much Roy asserts himself with this team as LaMarcus and Greg begin to assume a more prolific role.

Call me a pessimist, but I think he's going to be an occasional All-Star and might end up with 3-4 appearances when his career is all said and done.
 
Fans vote for the All Stars, then the coaches vote. Hopefully after last years All Star performance and the Blazers getting better this year, Roy will actually be voted in, but thats hard with all the talent in the west. I think the fact that he was in once helps his case, like when Nash won the MVP, the following year they had to give it to him again cause he put up better numbers then when he won it, as Roy will ideally put up better numbers then he did last year.
 
He will be a long time All-Star because of his skill and game play, regardless who is around him.
 
Roy will be an occasional All-Star, mostly voted in because of our record. As LMA and Oden become more offensively prominent, they're going to get more nods. And when push comes to shove, it's tough to put in three guys from the same team on an AS roster.
 
BRoy will never be the kind of player the fans would vote in. Just doesn't have that flashy kinda' game. But the coaches love and respect the kind of player he is. That is how he will get invited to all-star weekend.
 
Yep, he will be. He'll be right up there with the Chris Paul's and Deron Williams' this season.
I see Greg making a ton of them. The only guy that may be left out could be LaMarcus, IMO. But that'd be pretty sweet if we could get three of our guys on there eventually.
 
alex42083 said:
Yep, he will be. He'll be right up there with the Chris Paul's and Deron Williams' this season.
I see Greg making a ton of them. The only guy that may be left out could be LaMarcus, IMO. But that'd be pretty sweet if we could get three of our guys on there eventually.
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B Roy up there with CP3 and DWill?!? Although I respect the hell outta Roy's game....ummmm....can I have some of what your smokin'?!? lol
 
NattaNerNuttaMan said:
No, but he shoulda been....not saying BRoy didn't deserve to be but DWill was a killa though
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Sure, they're both MVP caliber players. Based on their careers so far, I'd give Deron and Paul the leg up on Brandon, but I said by the end of this season, Brandon's gonna make that big leap to be one of the NBA's elite players.
 
I love Brandon, but I don't think he is an MVP caliber player yet.
 
He's not an MVP, but he's definitely the type of player to take over a game and beat you. DWill was certainly the most deserving player to miss the all-star game.
 
alex42083 said:
Was Deron an All-Star last season?
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exactly. Chris Paul is arguably the best guard in the whole league... dude was an MVP candidate last year... but since when has Deron Williams established himself as a cut above Roy? Though they play different spots I see them as very comparable in their effect on the game and in the awards/recognition they've received so far in their short professional careers. Fans can have a favorite between the two, but these guys are close in talent.

STOMP
 
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Stats at All-Star break
PPG Asst RPG Stls
D-Will: 19.1 9.7 3.0 1.2

B-Roy: 19.7 5.8 4.7 1.0

Not to mention that Baron shoulda made it ahead of B-Roy as well

PPG Asst RPG Stls
B-Diddy: 21.7 8.1 4.8 2.5
 
STOMP said:
exactly. Chris Paul is arguably the best guard in the whole league... dude was an MVP candidate last year... but since when has Deron Williams established himself as a cut above Roy? Though they play different spots I see them as very comparable in their effect on the game and in the awards/recognition they've received so far in their short professional careers

STOMP
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I'd say D-Will has established himself already...not to mention how much he steps up his game in the Playoffs (22.3 PPG, 11.5 APG & 4.5 RPG against the Lakers!!!)! I'm pretty sure if you put DWill and Roy in front of a board of GM's ...Dwill would be picked more than Roy to build a team around...

Once again, I'm not trashing Roy...so don't get sensitive...I'm just stating that DWill is already of the top 3-5 PG's on the league right now...although Roy will be good (maybe great) he's not quite there yet in regards to his position or overall skill set...but of course playing different positions means having different responsibilites....still you should get the idea of what I'm talkin' about...;)
 
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NattaNerNuttaMan said:
Stats at All-Star break
PPG Asst RPG Stls
D-Will: 19.1 9.7 3.0 1.2

B-Roy: 19.7 5.8 4.7 1.0

Not to mention that Baron shoulda made it ahead of B-Roy as well

PPG Asst RPG Stls
B-Diddy: 21.7 8.1 4.8 2.5
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I love baron Davis, but he was a product of a system. A lot of players #'s look inflated because of the type of game the Warriors play. Brandon deserved it more then Baron, but DWill might have had an argument.
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
I love baron Davis, but he was a product of a system. A lot of players #'s look inflated because of the type of game the Warriors play. Brandon deserved it more then Baron, but DWill might have had an argument.
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very, very true...B-Diddy did just get the number's because of the system. But I do still stand by the argument that DWill shoulda been an All-Star....but I think after last years playoff showing...that won't happen again...He's too far up on the list now.

As for BRoy...it's gonna be a shame, because of the added talent taking away touches and his "non-flashy" way of playing...he'll never get the amount of All-Star respect he will deserve from now on...Not a ballot All-Star....but he could keep getting in as a coaches pick
 
NattaNerNuttaMan said:
I'd say D-Will has established himself already...not to mention how much he steps up his game in the Playoffs (22.3 PPG, 11.5 APG & 4.5 RPG against the Lakers!!!)! I'm pretty sure if you put DWill and Roy in front of a board of GM's ...Dwill would be picked more than Roy to build a team around...

Once again, I'm not trashing Roy...so don't get sensitive...I'm just stating that DWill is already of the top 3-5 PG's on the league right now...although Roy will be good (maybe great) he's not quite there yet in regards to his position or overall skill set...but of course playing different positions means having different responsibilites....still you should get the idea of what I'm talkin' about...;)
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I don't think you're trashing Roy (except the whatever you're smoking comment :wink:).
But Brandon is ready to take that next step IMO with this team. And judging by what he's been saying in the preseason, the guy is ready to take over and be THE man.
It just took him a little while to reach the level that I think he can be this season. I'll give you that Paul is just on another level, the guy is amazing.
Those three guys are going to do battle for the next decade, and I think Roy could more than hold his own against Paul.
 
alex42083 said:
I don't think you're trashing Roy (except the whatever you're smoking comment :wink:).
But Brandon is ready to take that next step IMO with this team. And judging by what he's been saying in the preseason, the guy is ready to take over and be THE man.
It just took him a little while to reach the level that I think he can be this season. I'll give you that Paul is just on another level, the guy is amazing.
Those three guys are going to do battle for the next decade, and I think Roy could more than hold his own against Paul.
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you had me until the "more than hold his own against CP3" comment...lol...it's hard for a whole team to contain Paul...lol. But I'm a fan of Roy....I was pissed when my Wolves traded him on draft day for Foye....I really like Foye as well...but I just had a feeling we made a big mistake letting Roy go. Kinda like when we traded Mayo....but then I weighed the Pro/Cons....now I'm feeling better
 
slickyseenis said:
brandon is a future six time allstar
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That's all well and fine....the point some of us are trying to make is, if Roy is a future 6 time allstar, then Paul is a future 15 time allstar and DWill is a future 10-12 time allstar...lol.

Although Roy is good, he still won't be seen as a "ballot-allstar" (ie; no flashy play for the fans to oogle...lol)...but he'll get in on coaches votes.
 
I think most of you are forgetting how many seasons Roy has played in the league and that Deron has one extra year under his belt. Also Roy played well enough in the All-Star game last year to be a MVP candidate out of all of the leagues All-Stars. I think we are all under estimating how good Roy can become simply because of his calm demeanor on the court and how he effects the game seamlessly. Look at how Roy stacks up against some well known all-stars, and I think Roy has a better head on his shoulders than most of these guys, also it just reminds me why Grant Hill is probably my favorite player.

Rebs Asts Pnts

Roy 2nd Year - 4.7 5.8 19.1
Deron 2nd Yr - 3.3 9.3 16.2
Peirce 2nd Yr - 5.4 3.0 19.5
R. Allen 2nd Y -4.9 4.3 19.5
Kobe 3rd Year - 5.3 3.8 19.9
G. Hill 2nd Yr - 9.8 6.8 20.2
Carter 2nd Yr - 5.8 3.9 25.7

What stands out most to me is that Roy is the 2nd highest in assists on this list outside of the PG (D.Williams). He already is a better distributor than any of these guy were at this stage of their career outside of Hill, I could see Roy retiring with Averages of 25, 7.5asts, 5.5 rebounds. Oden should help him get more assists as well as a better and more mature supporting cast in the coming years
 
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Why is it that some people are taking offense to the topic? I'm not saying that Roy isn't a good player...and I'm not underestimating him. I'm just pleading DWill's case that Roy is supposedly better than DWill simple because he made the All-Star game? D-Will was snubbed and shoulda made it last year...and when it's all said and done...he will probably be in more All-Star games than Roy
 
NattaNerNuttaMan said:
I'd say D-Will has established himself already...not to mention how much he steps up his game in the Playoffs (22.3 PPG, 11.5 APG & 4.5 RPG against the Lakers!!!)! I'm pretty sure if you put DWill and Roy in front of a board of GM's ...Dwill would be picked more than Roy to build a team around...

Once again, I'm not trashing Roy...so don't get sensitive...I'm just stating that DWill is already of the top 3-5 PG's on the league right now...although Roy will be good (maybe great) he's not quite there yet in regards to his position or overall skill set...but of course playing different positions means having different responsibilites....still you should get the idea of what I'm talkin' about...;)
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yes I see what you're talking about... you've a disagreement with the NBA coaches in the Western conference and feel that you know better then them which is (of course) ridiculous. When confronted with these facts, you're getting upset and blaming the messenger.

Try not to be so sensitive.

STOMP
 
It all depends on our record. Roy wouldn't have been voted into the All-Star game by the coaches if we didn't win those 13 games in a row in December. The timing was perfect for him.

If the All-Stars were voted in after the season was over (like the NFL) then Roy wouldn't have made the cut.

Winning teams get more players into the All-Star game. Look at the Pistons. Winning=Respect.

Roy will never be an MVP candidate (he doesn't dominate the ball enough for 40 minutes a game) but I think he'll make 5-6 All-Star appearances.
 
When Roy is healthy Roy IS an All Star and The Blazers will Win end of story
 
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