Science Is Neil trying to increase value or is he actually screwing this up?

[sheed30]

You may view it is hard to read. Many of us don't.

Many of us view the posters that don't care if we get bounced in the first round, that we don't actually improve much, if at all in talent in the offseason, that always think our team is better than they actually are......are the hard to read posts.

Many of "us' dont? It's just the same bunch come on haha whatever makes you feel better. Sitting on a forum or reading views on Twitter is a small sample size of what the real world really thinks btw. You know how many times I hear, Neil is getting blasted on Twitter? lol I doubt Neil is giving a shit about people he will never see giving their opinion sitting behind a cpu. People think because they have a voice on social media that their opinion actually matters

But regardless of all of that, there is no need to clog up the forum with the same threads more or less. Why not just put them into one? There is no reason why it shouldn't be. That's been done here many times but for some reason the many negative threads about more or less the same things about Neil is keep separate lol?

This is slowly becoming Blazer Edge 2.0

 

[sheed30]

Hassan, here. You rang?

Hassan signed with the Jazz

 

[wizenheimer]

I am not defending Neil at all, where did you get that? I dont care for Neil either for the record, but I sure as hell don't go out of my way to spite out negatives views on him 24/7. We get it, you guys dont like Neil, but no need to shove that down our throat with multiple threads

lol...you're in the threads you 'hate'...making multiple posts about what it is you hate. You're participating

 

[blazerkor]

Olshey is the guy that chose to take those contracts on - terrible business.
Then doubled down with terrible value contract extensions for Cj and Lillard (3 for 100M & 4 for 196M respectively)
Moves that have and will hurt the Blazers moving forward.

Agreed about CJ but do you think you're keeping a perennial all nba player for less than the supermax as far as Dame is concerned? I love calling Neil out on bidding against himself and he definitely did that again with CJ but Dame is a supermax player.

 

[Hoopguru]

Agreed about CJ but do you think you're keeping a perennial all nba player for less than the supermax as far as Dame is concerned? I love calling Neil out on bidding against himself and he definitely did that again with CJ but Dame is a supermax player.

agree, if he hadn't extended Dame then, FA would have been at the door. Great move for Neil, imo. And I think Dame helped CJ with his extension, of course I could be very wrong about?

 

[Fairly-Hard]

So this thread is now “Science” .
Nice!

 

[Fairly-Hard]

What?

Brooklyn gave Crabbe that contract. They also gave Nicholson that contract. Half of the teams in the league gave out terrible contracts that summer. And Olshey should be investigated for collusion?! Hah!

You guys crack me up.

Evan Turner was kind of a bad contract.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Another thread made to more or less bash Neil, blah blah blah. This should be merged with the Fire Oshley thread. Nothing to see here

He’s gonna be the fall guy whipping post until the season starts and they pick a player.
It’ll be CJ if he’s still here most likely.
Fear not! Some player will be in the doghouse.

 

[Natebishop3]

So this thread is now “Science” .
Nice!

You like that? I thought it was appropriate.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

You like that? I thought it was appropriate.

Highly appropriate obviously.
There is a snarky/humorous/sarcastic side of you i'm just starting to appreciate.

 

[Tince]

What?

Brooklyn gave Crabbe that contract. They also gave Nicholson that contract. Half of the teams in the league gave out terrible contracts that summer. And Olshey should be investigated for collusion?! Hah!

You guys crack me up.

If we're going to let Olshey off the hook for matching Crabbe's contract (which he didn't have to do), then we have to assign him responsibility for trying to pay Kanter a max contract even though OKC ended up matching. Both are bad deals and Olshey has to be responsible for one, if not both, no matter how you spin it.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

If we're going to let Olshey off the hook for matching Crabbe's contract (which he didn't have to do), then we have to assign him responsibility for trying to pay Kanter a max contract even though OKC ended up matching. Both are bad deals and Olshey has to be responsible for one, if not both, no matter how you spin it.

Yeah I have to agree. I know i personally didn't like the Crabbe contract. I would have let him walk for sure.

 

[BonesJones]

Evan Turner was kind of a bad contract.

Yes he was.

 

[BonesJones]

If we're going to let Olshey off the hook for matching Crabbe's contract (which he didn't have to do), then we have to assign him responsibility for trying to pay Kanter a max contract even though OKC ended up matching. Both are bad deals and Olshey has to be responsible for one, if not both, no matter how you spin it.

Wasnt it reported that Paul made the decision to match Crabbe?

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Yes he was.

I didn't know it at the time though. I thought Turner was going to be better. I also thought Zach would work out better. I now feel Powell should be a good signing and i feel RoCo was a good signing.
I think a lot of us wanted CJ to be moved into the SG position after the Memphis series.
I really have a hard time looking at players Olshey has gambled on that were really obviously going to be bad?

 

[Tince]

Wasnt it reported that Paul made the decision to match Crabbe?

As I've understood it, Paul made the final call on every transaction. The GM would give Paul their suggestion and he would sign off or he wouldn't. To your point, I would assume Crabbe (and Kanter) were no different.

 

[tester551]

Wasnt it reported that Paul made the decision to match Crabbe?

that's what was 'reported'. Not sure how true it is...

Either way, the role of the GM is to help keep the owners from making stupid decisions.

 

[wizenheimer]

that's what was 'reported'. Not sure how true it is...

Either way, the role of the GM is to help keep the owners from making stupid decisions.

the entire "Paul Allen made me do it" defense of Olshey is fishy. Further, the same time that was trotted out as the excuse, there were other Paul Allen decisions that were added to the excuse. Seemed like PA was responsible for the bad decisions and Olshey was responsible for the good ones. Imagine that

 

[RR7]

the entire "Paul Allen made me do it" defense of Olshey is fishy. Further, the same time that was trotted out as the excuse, there were other Paul Allen decisions that were added to the excuse. Seemed like PA was responsible for the bad decisions and Olshey was responsible for the good ones. Imagine that

It's pretty similar to how anything good done by Neil was done by accident, not by him, for a different reason than what actually worked out, etc. Imagine that.

 

[wizenheimer]

It's pretty similar to how anything good done by Neil was done by accident, not by him, for a different reason than what actually worked out, etc. Imagine that.

maybe...can you give an example?