Is this a hate crime? Part 2

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Now we are getting somewhere! An actual liberal that admitted one of their own did a blunder! SUCCESS!

The bullshit notion that you continue to try to push is that I have not been critical of Obama. Did I vote for him yes. Have I approved of everything that he's done? Hell fucking no. So get out of here with that crap notion okay?
 
IMO, the biggest problem with two-term presidents is the inherent "lame-duck" nature of that second term. What I think would be interesting would be a progressive vote requirement, increasing after every term. After your first term, if you want to win the presidency for a second term, you need 60% of the vote. To stay in for a third term, you need 70%, and so on. In fact, something similar to that could work for all levels of elected office--it would encourage politicians to act in a more broad general interest, allow highly popular/effective officials to remain in office longer, and make it much more difficult for less effective incumbents to retain their positions.

Personally, I don't believe in term limits at all. If I want to continue to vote for someone who wants to continue to run, I should be able to. If Obama ran for a third term against Bernie Sanders I would not vote for Obama.
 
I'm with you on the lack of cooperation between parties to get things done, but this isn't a one-way street. Obama spent his first two years in office, when his party controlled both houses, telling the Republicans that elections have consequences and kicking them in the balls repeatedly over health care and a myriad of other policy issues. Curiously, when the midterm elections cost him the House, he no longer was a believer in elections having consequences. When the most recent elections cost the Dems the Senate, he became even less a supporter of that concept. I guess it's a matter of which elections.

People who always push this bullshit get on my nerves. Do you not remember when Scott Brown was elected? Do you not remember Republican filibuster after Republican filibuster or threat of that? Obama and the Democrats control both houses for literally 72 days. Go back and look at when Scott Brown was elected.
 
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Your idea of "democracy" is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

Constitutionally elected representatives run the country. Term limits happen every election. You're like what they do vote their asses out. I think our country should run a lot more like Switzerland. Funny how they get to sit back and play neutral while everybody else goes to war. People don't war with Switzerland they put their money there.
 
And even for that 72 days the Democrats never really had a 60 seat majority. You still have the oil whore Mary Landrieu. Ben Nelson with that rat pelt on his head. There were a few others that I can't really name off the top but he only had like 57 votes.
 
You gotta be fucking kidding me...

You lose and credibility by being a George W defender...
Wait are you telling me the economy was worse when Obama took office than when Reagan? How fucking old are you bro???? Obviously you don't remember high interest rates, high inflation and gas lines then. Let me find some numbers for you. You are being beyond ridiculous and will be shunned in epic fashion.
 
You don't remember when Reagan sold missiles to Iran? You don't remember when Reagan bombed the small country of Grenada? I certainly do...
$30M worth. They were used in a week or less.
 
Reagan is one of the greatest presidents of all time. Sorry democrats, it's not even close
 
Poor Obama. Barely got stuff passed with 60 votes in the senate and veto proof in the house.

A clue about how terrible a leader he is... Consider Clinton got stuff passed with republican house and senate that impeached him.

Poor O had it rough. Boo hoo.
 
Poor Obama. Barely got stuff passed with 60 votes in the senate and veto proof in the house.

A clue about how terrible a leader he is... Consider Clinton got stuff passed with republican house and senate that impeached him.

Poor O had it rough. Boo hoo.
In hindsight, Bill was a damn good president
 
History may be kinder to W after a few decades pass and less bias either way. His dad was miserable as president, and lost reelection to a nobody from Arkansas.

Yet GHW is now more respected by scholars than he was then.

Nixon, similar story.
 
Constitutionally elected representatives run the country. Term limits happen every election. You're like what they do vote their asses out. I think our country should run a lot more like Switzerland. Funny how they get to sit back and play neutral while everybody else goes to war. People don't war with Switzerland they put their money there.
Great post! If you want a free market democracy where an across the board 6% sales tax covers all national health insurance and the police are not bothering people. Check out Taiwan's system. The shame is we don't even vote for them to become a member of the United Nations because it would piss of mainland China. Their president can't get out of the airplane in Hawaii yet thousands of american businesses have branches there and we sell them weapons. If ever there were a friend of the US that we are ignoring, it's Taiwan.
 
People who always push this bullshit get on my nerves. Do you not remember when Scott Brown was elected? Do you not remember Republican filibuster after Republican filibuster or threat of that? Obama and the Democrats control both houses for literally 72 days. Go back and look at when Scott Brown was elected.

A. I don't always push this bullshit; I've never made this argument here before. I'm sorry if it hit a hot button with you.

B. Where did I say that the Democrats had a super-majority in Obama's first two terms? I said they controlled both houses of Congress.

C. The point I was making, that both major parties have contributed to gridlock, has nothing to do with whether the Democrats had a super-majority in his first two terms.

D. The President was awarded 4 Pinocchios from the Washington Post for his gross exaggeration of the amount of Republican filibusters his policies have endured during his presidency. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...filibustered-about-500-pieces-of-legislation/

E. The President's signature piece of legislation, the Affordable Care Act, was rammed through Congress during his first two years without making a single concession to the Republicans and in full opposition by that party. It passed Congress on March 21, 2010, a month and a half after Scott Brown came into office.

I get tired of the point consistently made by Democrats that the Republicans were out to get Obama from day 1. Not that it's not true, but that it is any different than what Bush dealt with from the Democrats his last term of office. Washington has been broken for a long time. Both sides have gotten progressively more polarized in their views. The art of the compromise has been lost. The hyperbole and the vitriol has gotten worse and worse. Pretending that one side is more responsible than the other is silly, in my view. Unless the people see through the political crappola and start electing candidates who are more moderate and willing to work together for the good of the country, the country won't experience much of anything good out of Washington.
 
A. I don't always push this bullshit; I've never made this argument here before. I'm sorry if it hit a hot button with you.

B. Where did I say that the Democrats had a super-majority in Obama's first two terms? I said they controlled both houses of Congress.

C. The point I was making, that both major parties have contributed to gridlock, has nothing to do with whether the Democrats had a super-majority in his first two terms.

D. The President was awarded 4 Pinocchios from the Washington Post for his gross exaggeration of the amount of Republican filibusters his policies have endured during his presidency. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...filibustered-about-500-pieces-of-legislation/

E. The President's signature piece of legislation, the Affordable Care Act, was rammed through Congress during his first two years without making a single concession to the Republicans and in full opposition by that party. It passed Congress on March 21, 2010, a month and a half after Scott Brown came into office.

I get tired of the point consistently made by Democrats that the Republicans were out to get Obama from day 1. Not that it's not true, but that it is any different than what Bush dealt with from the Democrats his last term of office. Washington has been broken for a long time. Both sides have gotten progressively more polarized in their views. The art of the compromise has been lost. The hyperbole and the vitriol has gotten worse and worse. Pretending that one side is more responsible than the other is silly, in my view. Unless the people see through the political crappola and start electing candidates who are more moderate and willing to work together for the good of the country, the country won't experience much of anything good out of Washington.

Solid post.
 
They all need to be paid like school teachers, that'll give them some perspective
 
Reagan is one of the greatest presidents of all time. Sorry democrats, it's not even close

HE FUCKING SOLD WEAPONS TO THE PEOPLE ALL THE RIGHT WINGERS WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH.... WTF????
 
Reagan ADMITS trading arms for hostages! WTF? We aren't supposed to negotiate with Terrorists and REAGAN DID....
 

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