Is this the best starting 5 of Dame's career?

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Is the current staring 5 (Dame/CJ/Hood/Melo/Whiteside) the best unit of Dame's career?

  • Yes--they're as balanced a group as he's ever played with

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • No--Dame/Wes/Nic/LA/Rolo was better

    Votes: 29 60.4%

  • No--Dame/CJ/Moe/Chief/Nurk was better

    Votes: 3 6.3%

  • No--Ptldplatypus is high for even asking this question

    Votes: 7 14.6%
  • Total voters
    48
Current Dame > Young Dame
CJ > Wes
Hood > Nic
Melo = Aldridge
Hassan > Rolo

Nic was supremely overrated. Dude would have one good game out of every five games. Wes was really solid, but not a star. Obviously he was a better defender than CJ, but CJ is a much better all around scorer. Rolo was also extremely overrated. Aldridge and Melo are actually pretty comparable.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
You sure about that one? Wes' WS/48, BPM and VORP the years he played with Dame were far superior to anything CJ's ever put up.
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I'll put it this way, if Dame is out, CJ can carry the scoring load/playmaking.

Wes could not. Not even a little bit. Wes was a better spot up shooter though. But I think we had a better offensive scheme back when we had Dame/Wes/Nic/LMA/Rolo. It was a cleaner offense. Our offense from the past few years has been super iso focused and really just overall complete ass.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'll put it this way, if Dame is out, CJ can carry the scoring load/playmaking.

Wes could not. Not even a little bit. Wes was a better spot up shooter though. But I think we had a better offensive scheme back when we had Dame/Wes/Nic/LMA/Rolo. It was a cleaner offense. Our offense from the past few years has been super iso focused and really just overall complete ass.
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Part of that is they focused the offense around their guards skills, but wes could lock up guys defensively, switch and every year added stuff to his game, at one point he wasnt a good shooter, he learned a post game, was never great on the dribble but got better. Im really biased but Wes was awesome.
 
riverman said:
I think CJ and Hood are way better then Wes and Nico...look at those guys since leaving and only Lamarcus is still really good ...Allan Crabbe has been dogshit for years since he left
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Disagree. CJ is much more versatile offensively, but Wes + Batum is MUCH better defensively than CJ and Hood.
 
wizenheimer said:
why are people plugging in Nurk instead of Whiteside when the question is "this", not 3 months from now?
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Because he's our franchise center....Kevin Durant isn't playing now either but when folks talk about the Nets roster...he's part of the conversation. I also think Nurk is closer to getting back than they say. Injuries happen ….Rolo was out for a long stretch his final year here....we still talk about him as the starting center...Alan Crabbe played a lot of games Batum missed. I don't see any point of contention concerning how folks define our roster throughout the Dame period...we know what Dame and Nurk look like compared to Dame and LA...I doubt Hassan will finish the season here with this Blazer core. We're not talking about the Anthony Tolliver substitute center roster either.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Disagree. CJ is much more versatile offensively, but Wes + Batum is MUCH better defensively than CJ and Hood.
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Wes was ...and I've said that about 3 times but he was way way worse on offense than Rodney or CJ and CJs defense has improved this season more than Wes' offense ever did....I liked Wes..he was a very good defender....but really, so was Mo Harkless in the same vein....Wes wasn't averaging over 20 pts a game anytime soon. Rodney is a solid two way player...more so than either CJ or Wes in my view...Wes was pretty far from clutch with a game on the line.
 
riverman said:
Wes was ...and I've said that about 3 times but he was way way worse on offense than Rodney or CJ and CJs defense has improved this season more than Wes' offense ever did....I liked Wes..he was a very good defender....but really, so was Mo Harkless in the same vein....Wes wasn't averaging over 20 pts a game anytime soon. Rodney is a solid two way player...more so than either CJ or Wes in my view...Wes was pretty far from clutch with a game on the line.
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Wes in his years with Portland was a 15ppg scorer, and fairly efficient, and Moe was a 7.7ppg scorer. If they’re even defensively ok, give me was 100 out of 100 times.
CJ is a great ISO scorer and shooter, but basically a huge negative defensively. So if your team needs a creator or offense than CJ is the guy for you, but I prefer Wes.
I love Hood he vs Nic is an interesting battle.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
So you think platy was high when he asked this! :)
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Dame/Wes/Nic/LA/Rolo was better
Dame/CJ/Moe/Chief/Nurk was better

I think both were better than the current line up. Even if you don't think much of Moe & Chief, Nurk was too good last year.
 
bobf said:
Dame/Wes/Nic/LA/Rolo was better
Dame/CJ/Moe/Chief/Nurk was better

I think both were better than the current line up. Even if you don't think much of Moe & Chief, Nurk was too good last year.
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Id have loved to see Nurk/Aminu/Hood/CJ/Dame as starters.
 
bobf said:
Dame/CJ/Moe/Chief/Nurk was better
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Melo and Hood are so much better than Mo and Chief it's not even fucking funny.

The gap between Whiteside and Nurk isn't enough to make that lineup better.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Melo and Hood are so much better than Mo and Chief it's not even fucking funny.

The gap between Whiteside and Nurk isn't enough to make that lineup better.
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Nurk is so much better passing out of the post and scoring....I see a big difference...Hassan had a great game...Nurk has had many great games...Nurk is better in a few areas...Hassan is a better shot blocker but not at anything else from my view...we've missed good passing from our front court players....Melo and Nurk are both good passers..Nurk sets massive screens
 
riverman said:
Nurk is so much better passing out of the post and scoring....I see a big difference...Hassan had a great game...Nurk has had many great games...Nurk is better in a few areas...Hassan is a better shot blocker but not at anything else from my view...we've missed good passing from our front court players....Melo and Nurk are both good passers..Nurk sets massive screens
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All i know is after 10 blocks in one game it's kind of hard to think about letting Whiteside go this season at any time?
 
HailBlazers said:
Didn't you hear? Everyone who's anyone thinks we're trading him before the deadline.
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Yeah i have read that a few places but of course i ain't anyone and certainly don't agree with everyone so here i stand.
 
Let’s see how they play... it can be. Nurkic coming back can put us in good perspective.
 
riverman said:
I think CJ and Hood are way better then Wes and Nico...look at those guys since leaving and only Lamarcus is still really good ...Allan Crabbe has been dogshit for years since he left
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And look at Aminu’s stats this season. Sit down. They will terrify you.
 
hoopsjock said:
You couldn't put offensive, defensive, and net ratings of each of those starting lineups???????

I'd take the Dame, Wes, Batum, LMA, and RoLo starting 5. A lack of bench and then injuries did in those teams, not the starting lineup. Off the top of my head I believe the Blazers were 24-5 out of the gate one of the two seasons with that group.
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Yes it was Rolo’s first season with us. We had the best record in the league. That is my least favorite season though because we were awful in the middle portion of that season. It was so depressing. We fell to 5 seed and we had to win 8 of our last 10 to get that. First round was great but like I said, that regular season was ultimately awful in its entirety.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
For the record, I'd rather have a healthy (pre-injury) Wes, than CJ and this isn't an "I hate CJ" thread, but as I've stated on numerous occasions, Wes was my favorite Blazer of all time, that man played with all heart.
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What?? Dame doesn’t play with all heart? How can Dame not be everyone’s favorite Blazer of all time? Outside of maybe Terry Porter.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Current Dame > Young Dame
CJ > Wes
Hood > Nic
Melo = Aldridge
Hassan > Rolo

Nic was supremely overrated. Dude would have one good game out of every five games. Wes was really solid, but not a star. Obviously he was a better defender than CJ, but CJ is a much better all around scorer. Rolo was also extremely overrated. Aldridge and Melo are actually pretty comparable.
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KingSpeed said:
Yes it was Rolo’s first season with us. We had the best record in the league. That is my least favorite season though because we were awful in the middle portion of that season. It was so depressing. We fell to 5 seed and we had to win 8 of our last 10 to get that. First round was great but like I said, that regular season was ultimately awful in its entirety.
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So, the year Wes got hurt, I remember vividly telling my Dad how I thought the Blazers could win a championship with that group, they just needed something positive from their bench and they could hang with anyone... It was only a few weeks later I saw Wes get hurt, Ive never been so devastated by an athletes injury in my life, not only did I think that was the end of their season, but I was sure at that point that, that was the last time Id see Wes playing in a Blazer uni. It takes a lot to make me cry, but that came really close.

Then to top it off I ended up being right, and then when Wes came out and talked about how disrespected he felt by Neil not contacting him at all, and all that it took me a long time to not be pissed at Neil. The Blazers have been lucky enough to have a few players that would run through a wall for their teammates and Wes was that type of guy, whatever he lacked in talent he made for in heart. Anyways, man I miss that guy, too bad he hasnt quite been the same since then.
 
KingSpeed said:
What?? Dame doesn’t play with all heart? How can Dame not be everyone’s favorite Blazer of all time? Outside of maybe Terry Porter.
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No one said Dame didnt, and its easy I know people who would choose Maurice Lucas, or Bill Walton, over Dame. People gravitate towards people for different reasons. I really like Dame, I think he’s great on and off the court, but he’s number 2 for me, there have been times that he’s been close to taking it from Wes, but its Wes for me.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
So, the year Wes got hurt, I remember vividly telling my Dad how I thought the Blazers could win a championship with that group, they just needed something positive from their bench and they could hang with anyone... It was only a few weeks later I saw Wes get hurt, Ive never been so devastated by an athletes injury in my life, not only did I think that was the end of their season, but I was sure at that point that, that was the last time Id see Wes playing in a Blazer uni. It takes a lot to make me cry, but that came really close.

Then to top it off I ended up being right, and then when Wes came out and talked about how disrespected he felt by Neil not contacting him at all, and all that it took me a long time to not be pissed at Neil. The Blazers have been lucky enough to have a few players that would run through a wall for their teammates and Wes was that type of guy, whatever he lacked in talent he made for in heart. Anyways, man I miss that guy, too bad he hasnt quite been the same since then.
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Well he might win a championship this year so there’s that. Wes was important in 2015, yes, but we still had 2 All Stars and couldn’t win more than 1 playoff game. I was ready to move on from that core. At least I was ready to move on from Batum.
 
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