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I played a little schedule maker and went through each team's schedule.
I see Utah losing 10 more games and finishing 49-33
I see Denver losing 7 more games and finishing 53-29
I see PDX losing 5 more games and finishing 54-28

Utah's Schedule
Utah Jazz Schedule said:
March Opponent
Fri 06 vs Denver
Sun 08 @ Toronto
Tue 10 @ Indiana
Wed 11 @ Atlanta
Sat 14 @ Miami
Sun 15 @ Orlando
Tue 17 vs Washington
Fri 20 @ Oklahoma City
Tue 24 vs Houston
Wed 25 @ Phoenix
Sat 28 vs Phoenix
Mon 30 vs New York
Tue 31 @ Portland
April Opponent
Thu 02 @ Denver
Fri 03 vs Minnesota
Sun 05 @ New Orleans
Wed 08 @ Dallas
Fri 10 @ San Antonio
Sat 11 vs Golden State
Mon 13 vs LA Clippers
Tue 14 @ LA Lakers
http://www.nba.com/jazz/schedule/

Denver Nuggets Schedule said:
March Opponent
Fri 06 @ Utah
Sun 08 @ Sacramento
Mon 09 vs Houston
Wed 11 vs Oklahoma City
Sat 14 vs LA Clippers
Mon 16 vs New Jersey
Wed 18 @ Memphis
Fri 20 vs Washington
Mon 23 @ Phoenix
Wed 25 @ New Orleans
Fri 27 @ Dallas
Sat 28 vs Golden State
Tue 31 vs New York
April Opponent
Thu 02 vs Utah
Sat 04 vs LA Clippers
Sun 05 @ Minnesota
Wed 08 vs Oklahoma City
Thu 09 @ LA Lakers
Mon 13 vs Sacramento
Wed 15 @ Portland
http://www.nba.com/nuggets/schedule/

Portland Trail Blazers Schedule said:
March Opponent Time Local TV Nat TV Radio
Sat 07 vs Minnesota
Mon 09 vs LA Lakers
Wed 11 vs Dallas
Fri 13 vs New Jersey
Sun 15 @ Atlanta
Mon 16 @ Memphis
Wed 18 @ Indiana
Thu 19 @ Cleveland
Sat 21 @ Milwaukee
Mon 23 vs Philadelphia
Thu 26 vs Phoenix
Sat 28 vs Memphis
Tue 31 vs Utah
April Opponent
Fri 03 @ Oklahoma City
Sun 05 @ Houston
Tue 07 @ Memphis
Wed 08 @ San Antonio
Fri 10 vs LA Lakers
Sat 11 @ LA Clippers
Mon 13 vs Oklahoma City
Wed 15 vs Denver
http://www.nba.com/blazers/schedule/
 
Care to expand upon what games you think each team will win/lose? I wish I shared your level of optimism about going 16-5 over the final 21 games, but I think those are some pretty lofty expectations. Mike Rice had them going 12-9 over the last 21, which sounds more realistic to me.

-Pop
 
By assuming losses to the three elite teams (Lakers, Celtics, Cavaliers) regardless of where we play them and assuming losses to other good teams on the road, I also reached 5 losses, which surprised me. Pessimism leads me to believe that they'll drop a few games (2-3) that they "shouldn't" which they won't make up by winning games that they "shouldn't," but still...it's a pretty favourable schedule remaining.
 
It's kind of scary to think that we might be willingly rooting for the Lakers on April 9th and 14th.


Interesting note, we both are on a B2B when the Blazers and Lakers play. They're on the tail end (against the Nuggets in LA) and we're at the start of one (the next night against the Clippers in LA).
 
Care to expand upon what games you think each team will win/lose? I wish I shared your level of optimism about going 16-5 over the final 21 games, but I think those are some pretty lofty expectations. Mike Rice had them going 12-9 over the last 21, which sounds more realistic to me.

-Pop

Yea, no prob

Jazz
Losses:

@ ATL
@Mia
@ORL
@PHX
@PDX
@DEN
@NO
@DAL
@SA
@LAL

Total-10

Nuggets
Losses:

@UTA
@PHX
Vs.HOU
@NO
@DAL
@LAL
@PDX

Total-7

Trail Blazers
Losses:

@ATL
@CLE
@IND
@HOU
@SA

Total-5 (although I wouldn't be surprised to see @ OKC be a loss as well)
 
Also, I just don't see this team losing at home the rest of the way. The Lakers are the only elite team we see on the home floor and we have their number here in Portland. Utah will be on the 2nd half of a B2B while we have 2 days rest and I see a big rebound performance vs. the Mavs.
 
I don't see Utah losing all of those games. They'll at least beat Atlanta, Miami and Phoenix imo.
 
I don't see Utah losing all of those games. They'll at least beat Atlanta, Miami and Phoenix imo.
Utah is worse on the road than we are. Don't drink their kool-aid right now. They haven't beat many good teams and they have all been on the home floor. We'll see them come down to earth once they head east. And do you see their last 9 games? Yikes.
 
Utah has missed Boozer basically the whole season
Deron missed basically the first month of the season
Okur missed a lot of the same stretch Deron did
and even Kirilenko missed a couple games here and there.

They've been beat up and now they're healthy. They're scary. I think this is basically the first time all season they've had their full roster together.
 
Utah has missed Boozer basically the whole season
Deron missed basically the first month of the season
Okur missed a lot of the same stretch Deron did
and even Kirilenko missed a couple games here and there.

They've been beat up and now they're healthy. They're scary. I think this is basically the first time all season they've had their full roster together.

That is all true. But of their recent 9 game streak, and 12 out of 13 wins, 2 wins have been on the road. The other 10 have been home games.

They go on a long trip (much like we do next week) and have 8 out of the next 13 on the road and end the season 6 out of 9 on the road (similar to how the Blazers end their season). But their 6 on the road are tougher.

The Jazz play Portland, Denver, Hornets, Mavs and Spurs, whereas the 5 Portland plays have only the Spurs and Rockets as playoff teams.
 
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So? They're protecting home court, the same thing the Blazers do. Difference is Utah with all of their players healthy are a better team than Portland.

They'll cool off a tad since it's hard to lose only 1 game in a month, but they're a very good team and I don't see them losing to Atlanta/Miami/Phoenix, teams they're much better than.
 
So? They're protecting home court, the same thing the Blazers do. Difference is Utah with all of their players healthy are a better team than Portland.

They'll cool off a tad since it's hard to lose only 1 game in a month, but they're a very good team and I don't see them losing to Atlanta/Miami/Phoenix, teams they're much better than.

Better than doesn't mean they'll win. We're better than OKC, but they kicked our ass in OKC. We're better than Warriors but the same result happened.

Phoenix is a tough place to win (although it wouldn't surprise me to see Utah win there). Same with Altanta and Miami.
 
Obviously there's no guarantee, but imo the chances of them winning those games seems very likely.

I mean I hope they don't, but I think they will.
 
Frankly, I see the team finishing out the season around .500 which will probably just squeak them in as the 8th seed and third in the division (unless Dallas really implodes).

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As things stand right now, 12-9 would be about the best we could hope for. Joel can't play 48 minutes a night, and every time he goes to the bench, our defense and rebounding take a significant hit. I don't want to think about what happens if Joel gets hurt!
 
I don't think we'll lose in Atlanta. But we'll probably drop a few we shouldn't. I don't know if Utah can win that many games on the road though - they're kinda bad on it like us.
 
Jazz will definitely fold. Only two of their 10 wins in the current streak were on the road. And they were against Minnesota and Golden State. They will now play 13 of their last 20 on the road against the likes of Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, Phoenix, Portland, Denver, New Orleans, Dallas, San Antonio, and finally, the Lakers.

I'm not worried about Utah at all. I'm worried about Denver. Denver has the tiebreaker over us so we have to be tied going into that final game of the season which I'm very glad is at the Rose Garden.
 
Jazz will definitely fold. Only two of their 10 wins in the current streak were on the road. And they were against Minnesota and Golden State. They will now play 13 of their last 20 on the road against the likes of Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, Phoenix, Portland, Denver, New Orleans, Dallas, San Antonio, and finally, the Lakers.

I'm not worried about Utah at all. I'm worried about Denver. Denver has the tiebreaker over us so we have to be tied going into that final game of the season which I'm very glad is at the Rose Garden.

Lol. There's so much more to consider when predicting Utah's final record than just their road record on the season.

While only two wins were on the road, those home wins included games against Boston and LA. You can't expect much more than 10 wins from 10 games including wins vs. last seasons finalists, regardless of where the game is played. Most of those games were fairly comfortable wins too. So right now, they're playing pretty darn well.

And yes, the Jazz do have a poor road record (they did last season too). But at the end of the day your still playing basketball when your on the road. And right now, the Jazz are playing better basketball than they have at any point this season which has to chip away at that disadvantage of playing on the road. Deron Williams is playing at a ridiculous level, Memo can't miss from three, the bench is deep...it's all just clicking. And that's because of health, something that's avoided them until now which has to account for a significant portion of that poor road record this season.

I'm not saying the Jazz will only drop one game this month, but their current form wont disappear entirely purely because they're on the road. They wont be as good, but they should still be a good team. Consequently they'll win some of those road games, which should be enough to get them the Northwest Division. Realistic, winnable games are ones like Atlanta. Utah have won I think nine of the last ten games vs. Atlanta including a blowout a few weeks ago, Miami at 33-28 aren't really anything special, Phoenix are doing their best to go to the lottery and Utah have won four straight season series vs. NO. Also, D-Will usually gets the better of Paul in head to head matchups. Then there's games against teams like Denver, Portland and Dallas. Who with the way they are playing right now Utah are simply better than atm, evidenced by their current climb up the standings despite a disastrous 2008. Being on the road just makes the home team probably the slightest of favourites.

San Antonio is pretty much an automatic L though, haven't won there since the last millennium. I don't expect to take down the Magic or Lakers on their floor either.

Another thing going in Utah's favour is that they're also experienced in high pressure, playoff atmosphere games with the current core having gone to the playoffs recently. Somewhere Portland hasn't been in a while (though you will get there this season).

They also have seven home games left, and winning them all is a fairly realistic expectation with the only seemingly playoff bound team being Houston. That same team Utah enjoy knocking out in the first round and just took care of at home.
 
I agree with the 54 wins for the Blazers and finishing the season with 5 more losses. I think the folks who are saying 8 and 9 losses really aren't looking at the schedule very closely. Even if the Blazers go 8 and 2 at home, which I don't see happening, I really don't see them going 4 and 7 on the road to finish out the year, especially with some of the games they have left.

Should be an interesting last game of the season against Denver. Could very well be for the NW division.
 
While I want the Blazers to win a lot because I predicted they would win 55 coming into the season (that was considering Oden to play all season), but I don't think they are going to make it. I am guessing a little bit above .500 ball the rest of the way. Maybe 3 wins for every 2 losses.
 
While I want the Blazers to win a lot because I predicted they would win 55 coming into the season (that was considering Oden to play all season), but I don't think they are going to make it. I am guessing a little bit above .500 ball the rest of the way. Maybe 3 wins for every 2 losses.

That may sound only "a little bit above .500" but that's .600 basketball. Only slightly worse than they have been all season.

While .600 basketball isn't unreasonable, I think the schedule is pretty kind the rest of the way. Not many tough road games left, which is the key. So I think they should do better than that, and that's without considering when Oden is back.
 
Lol. There's so much more to consider when predicting Utah's final record than just their road record on the season.

While only two wins were on the road, those home wins included games against Boston and LA.

Ummm we beat Boston at home too. And we did it without Roy. And the Celtics were healthy. We haven't played LA yet. I'm unimpressed.
 
Ummm we beat Boston at home too. And we did it without Roy. And the Celtics were healthy. We haven't played LA yet. I'm unimpressed.

Umm, Utah beat Boston without Boozer. And in the following game beat NO by 14. In Portland's following game they lost to NO by 15. No Roy again, but no Boozer again. But anyway, if your not impressed by a 10 game winning streak, I simply don't know what would impress you.
 
Umm, Utah beat Boston without Boozer. And in the following game beat NO by 14. In Portland's following game they lost to NO by 15. No Roy again, but no Boozer again. But anyway, if your not impressed by a 10 game winning streak, I simply don't know what would impress you.

Well, some things to think about.

Last year, Portland had a 13 game winning streak. But of that streak, something like 10 of them were at home. So home games kind of inflate winning streaks.

Also, Brandon Roy is just slightly more important to the Blazers than Boozer is to the Jazz. And by "slightly", I mean "take Brandon Roy off the Blazers and they might be winning 20 games this year. Take Carlos Boozer off the Jazz and they're still a playoff team".
 
Well, some things to think about.

Last year, Portland had a 13 game winning streak. But of that streak, something like 10 of them were at home. So home games kind of inflate winning streaks.

Also, Brandon Roy is just slightly more important to the Blazers than Boozer is to the Jazz. And by "slightly", I mean "take Brandon Roy off the Blazers and they might be winning 20 games this year. Take Carlos Boozer off the Jazz and they're still a playoff team".

Exactly.
 
Well, some things to think about.

Last year, Portland had a 13 game winning streak. But of that streak, something like 10 of them were at home. So home games kind of inflate winning streaks.

Also, Brandon Roy is just slightly more important to the Blazers than Boozer is to the Jazz. And by "slightly", I mean "take Brandon Roy off the Blazers and they might be winning 20 games this year. Take Carlos Boozer off the Jazz and they're still a playoff team".

No doubt. I agree with you about the home games part, but any time a team gets to a double digit win streak it's still significant. You don't exactly fluke that stuff. Just one bad game (and every team has them) out of ten and that streak is snapped. How many teams in a typical season would go for 10+ straight win streaks, regardless of where they're played? Not many.
 
No doubt. I agree with you about the home games part, but any time a team gets to a double digit win streak it's still significant. You don't exactly fluke that stuff. Just one bad game (and every team has them) out of ten and that streak is snapped. How many teams in a typical season would go for 10+ straight win streaks, regardless of where they're played? Not many.

Houston went on a 22 game win streak last season. The second longest of ALL TIME. But they still didn't get out of the first round. And we went on a 13 game win streak and didn't even make the playoffs.

Not impressed in Utah's streak at all. Let's see how they do on these last 20 games, 13 of which are on the road.
 
Furthermore, we haven't had a streak longer than 6 this season but are a much better team than last year and we have the same record as the Jazz.
 
Houston went on a 22 game win streak last season. The second longest of ALL TIME. But they still didn't get out of the first round. And we went on a 13 game win streak and didn't even make the playoffs.

Not impressed in Utah's streak at all. Let's see how they do on these last 20 games, 13 of which are on the road.

Yeah but how many times has any team with T-Mac in it got out of the first round again?

And the teams with the first, third and fourth longest streaks of all time went on to win championships I believe. Then two of the three teams tied for fifth with 18 straight got a championship. But that's getting kinda OT, I'm not saying the Jazz will break any of those nor win a championship.

But as you said, lets see how they do. Whatever happens, the race to win the NW division should be fun.
 

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