Politics It's The Economy, Stupid!

[ABM]

People tell me that Trump "doesn't care about the little guy." Well, the little guys have jobs like never before, folks!

The job situation just keep getting better and better. Even MSNBC's Cramer admits, Like or hate Trump, "...these are the best numbers of our lives" on jobs.

 

[yankeesince59]

The numbers on unemployment are based only on the people who have actually been seeking jobs...it does not factor the ever-growing numbers of people freeloading on certain types of "government cheese".

And who did Trump's tax deal benefit the most, big business?...the very rich?...or "the little guy"?

 

[CupWizier]

People tell me that Trump "doesn't care about the little guy." Well, the little guys have jobs like never before, folks!

The job situation just keep getting better and better. Even MSNBC's Cramer admits, Like or hate Trump, "...these are the best numbers of our lives" on jobs.

and you should say thank you Obama as he is the one that got the trajectory in motion as unemployment began the decline during the Obama administration. trump has been responsible for raising the deficit to over a trillion dollars. Congrats to your man on that.

 

[riverman]

People tell me that Trump "doesn't care about the little guy." Well, the little guys have jobs like never before, folks!

The job situation just keep getting better and better. Even MSNBC's Cramer admits, Like or hate Trump, "...these are the best numbers of our lives" on jobs.

This clearly explains the enormous increase in homeless camps all across the country popping up like The Grapes of Wrath.....homeless people don't fill out a lot of polls...fact is everyone has always been able to get a job in my lifetime. Not everyone can afford the cost of living in the current bubble....Xmas season always sees an increase in jobs...temp jobs...farmers got 22 billion in govt welfare...Walmart got a 2.2 billion dollar bailout...and the trade wars haven't fully kicked into the economic numbers yet. We're in a bubble right now but it's not because of Trump. Lawyers are certainly getting all the work they want

 

[ABM]

and you should say thank you Obama as he is the one that got the trajectory in motion as unemployment began the decline during the Obama administration. trump has been responsible for raising the deficit to over a trillion dollars. Congrats to your man on that.

Thanks, Barack. You da man!

 

[ABM]

This clearly explains the enormous increase in homeless camps all across the country popping up like The Grapes of Wrath.....homeless people don't fill out a lot of polls...fact is everyone has always been able to get a job in my lifetime. Not everyone can afford the cost of living in the current bubble....Xmas season always sees an increase in jobs...temp jobs...farmers got 22 billion in govt welfare...Walmart got a 2.2 billion dollar bailout...and the trade wars haven't fully kicked into the economic numbers yet. We're in a bubble right now but it's not because of Trump. Lawyers are certainly getting all the work they want

Hence, Cramer's remarks.

BTW, the homeless aren't necessarily on Trump. There are many, many US cities that are successfully dealing with this (homeless) issue in responsible manners. Hey, gotta love San Fran for spending the money on providing needles to the addicts, then spending more on the clean up of the same. Ay yi yi!

 

[CupWizier]

Thanks, Barack. You da man!

Жаль, что следующий не последовал его примеру. Я не помню, чтобы Обама когда-либо сталкивался с импичментом, и любой, кто отрицал бы республиканцев, не попытался бы, если бы у них было что-нибудь. Трампа переизбирают = Вы собираетесь учиться говорить по-русски?

 

[CupWizier]

Hence, Cramer's remarks.

BTW, the homeless aren't necessarily on Trump. There are many, many US cities that are successfully dealing with this (homeless) issue in responsible manners. Hey, gotta love San Fran for spending the money on providing needles to the addicts, then spending more on the clean up of the same. Ay yi yi!

https://www.nashvillescene.com/news...homelessness-crisis-in-the-national-spotlight

 

[ABM]

Жаль, что следующий не последовал его примеру. Я не помню, чтобы Обама когда-либо сталкивался с импичментом, и любой, кто отрицал бы республиканцев, не попытался бы, если бы у них было что-нибудь. Трампа переизбирают = Вы собираетесь учиться говорить по-русски?

Hold it up to mirror, and read it backwards, and you'll suddenly be enlightened.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Its the FED, Trump (nor any President) has nothing to do with the economy since we bailed the banks out and started with Quantitative Easing.

We're fucked still and have been. It just hasn't hit yet because the QE and low rates hasn't been normalized.

 

[CupWizier]

Hold it up to mirror, and read it backwards, and you'll suddenly be enlightened.

I find my enlightenment in much better ways.

 

[jonnyboy]

A lot of the high employment numbers over the last few presidential terms are a result of inflation and stagnant wages. People are being forced to work more than one job to get by, hence more “jobs”. Things aren’t necessarily better for people, look at the skyrocketing homeless population.

Homelessness and employment aren’t two things that go up simultaneously in any logical way.

 

[ABM]

https://www.nashvillescene.com/news...homelessness-crisis-in-the-national-spotlight

Absolutely. It's a challenging issue. That said, it's still incumbent upon the city/state level to help create solutions.

As an example...

https://www.bendsource.com/bend/por...ral-oregon-should-follow/Content?oid=11556432

 

[ABM]

I find my enlightenment in much better ways.

Heh, I'm sure you do. *wink*

 

[julius]

Weird how when the economy was growing (faster, under Obama), trump would say that the unemployment #'s were fake. "40-50%" was the "real number".

Now, for some reason, he doesn't say that anymore nor do the people who support him (and said it) say it either.

 

[riverman]

Its the FED, Trump (nor any President) has nothing to do with the economy since we bailed the banks out and started with Quantitative Easing.

We're fucked still and have been. It just hasn't hit yet because the QE and low rates hasn't been normalized.

no...you are focused on retail economy.....Trump has had an effect on the economy with his trade wars....22.5 billion farmer bailout..and check the deficit under Trump. He's not the entire picture because he really doesn't have a clue about any of this but his trade wars are a time bomb. Also companies have learned you can hire two people part time and not pay benefits to either...hire one and you pay benefits .The stock market is always fickle....it's the casino of the economy..another 4 years of Trump will crush the economy...now his billionaire club buddies are raking in the tax breaks and offshore account benefits...show me your taxes Don

 

[ABM]

Absolutely. It's a challenging issue. That said, it's still incumbent upon the city/state level to help create solutions.

As an example...

https://www.bendsource.com/bend/por...ral-oregon-should-follow/Content?oid=11556432

BTW, my wife and I are becoming an active part of this organization. It was exciting that Amazon brought a truckload of food two Saturdays ago!

https://thebranchofnashville.org/

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

no...you are focused on retail economy.....Trump has had an effect on the economy with his trade wars....22.5 billion farmer bailout..and check the deficit under Trump. He's not the entire picture because he really doesn't have a clue about any of this but his trade wars are a time bomb. Also companies have learned you can hire two people part time and not pay benefits to either...hire one and you pay benefits .The stock market is always fickle....it's the casino of the economy

Its all related. None of this matters in the long run.

Like I said, the President's actions have very little impact on the economy. He started a fucking trade war with China and things haven't been affected that much. They were telling us everything was going to double in price. Same shit, different day.

The only thing that will affect anything is if the FED hints at raising interest rates.

 

[riverman]

He started a fucking trade war with China and things haven't been affected that much

tell that to farmers

 

[CupWizier]

Absolutely. It's a challenging issue. That said, it's still incumbent upon the city/state level to help create solutions.

As an example...

https://www.bendsource.com/bend/por...ral-oregon-should-follow/Content?oid=11556432

and when it's a national crisis then the government (trump administration) needs to develop plans as well. Like in most national issues trump ignores them and instead steals money to build a border wall that Mexico was going to pay for. You have been duped buddy as your pro life agenda of trump that you voted for has had very little impact. Lots of money sure seems to go missing in this administration. Could it be the crook in charge? But hey, at least he is pro life right?

 

[CupWizier]

Heh, I'm sure you do. *wink*

I suggest you look into better things for enlightenment than looking at a post in Russian backwards in a mirror.

 

[ABM]

and when it's a national crisis then the government (trump administration) needs to develop plans as well. Like in most national issues trump ignores them and instead steals money to build a border wall that Mexico was going to pay for. You have been duped buddy as your pro life agenda of trump that you voted for has had very little impact. Lots of money sure seems to go missing in this administration. Could it be the crook in charge? But hey, at least he is pro life right?

I suggest you look into better things for enlightenment than looking at a post in Russian backwards in a mirror.

...sez the kid who posts in Russian! Say, do I need to be concerned that you're infiltrating S2?!!

 

[CupWizier]

...sez the kid who posts in Russian! Say, do I need to be concerned that you're infiltrating S2?!!

"the kid"? rotflmao!

as much as you are up trumps rear I would have thought you knew how to read Russian. Can we now end this worthless drivel?

 

[ABM]

Even CNBC, that bastion of conservationism, can't resist getting in on all the fun...

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-nonfarm-payrolls-november-2019.html

 

[jonnyboy]

tell that to farmers

The ones where I live seem to still be supporting him. And it’s not simply because they are stupid. They watch their finances closely. I don’t think loyalty to a president is more important to them than their livelihood. Clearly they feel they are better off with him than they would be otherwise.

 

[barfo]

The ones where I live seem to still be supporting him. And it’s not simply because they are stupid. They watch their finances closely. I don’t think loyalty to a president is more important to them than their livelihood. Clearly they feel they are better off with him than they would be otherwise.

They might feel that, but if so it would be evidence that they are stupid. It's very clear they aren't better off now - that's why Trump has had to spend billions on new subsidies.

What maybe you meant was that they feel that they'll be better off in the long run, after some short-term pain. That's at least a plausible thing for them to think, although very possibly very wrong.

barfo

 

[yankeesince59]

They might feel that, but if so it would be evidence that they are stupid. It's very clear they aren't better off now - that's why Trump has had to spend billions on new subsidies.

What maybe you meant was that they feel that they'll be better off in the long run, after some short-term pain. That's at least a plausible thing for them to think, although very possibly very wrong.

barfo

^^^This...I'm smack in the middle of farm country down here...and believe me, the farmers I'm related to and have talked to, are pissed at Trump.

 

[CupWizier]

The ones where I live seem to still be supporting him. And it’s not simply because they are stupid. They watch their finances closely. I don’t think loyalty to a president is more important to them than their livelihood. Clearly they feel they are better off with him than they would be otherwise.

A recent report from the American Farm Bureau Federation says the number offarms filing for bankruptcy is up 24% from the previous year. It's the steepest rise thefarming industry has seen in years, and the total farm debt for 2019 is expected to hit $416 billion, a record high.

 

[ABM]

A recent report from the American Farm Bureau Federation says the number offarms filing for bankruptcy is up 24% from the previous year. It's the steepest rise thefarming industry has seen in years, and the total farm debt for 2019 is expected to hit $416 billion, a record high.

Nonetheless, they still appear to be supporting Trump. At least, according to this report:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/07/us-...g-farmers-but-theyre-sticking-with-trump.html

 

[CupWizier]

Nonetheless, they still appear to be supporting Trump. At least, according to this report:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/07/us-...g-farmers-but-theyre-sticking-with-trump.html

From your article.

Still, it’s too soon to tell how China’s decision to stop buying U.S. agriculture products will affect that support.