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Can't pardon someone who hasn't been charged with a crime.

pretty sure he can

he can pardon anybody who participated in the riot:

* "Experts agree it’s one of the broadest constitutional powers, and in the case of Wednesday’s siege of the Capitol, President Trump could pardon the entire mob.

“He can pardon either individual members or groups of people for any federal offense, period, full stop,” Professor Frank Bowman said. “From jaywalking on a federal street to treason.”

Capital University law professor Dan Kobil agreed with Bowman, saying there really aren't restrictions to his authority when it comes to federal offenses.

“The President has the authority to pardon any person who violated any federal laws on that date,” Kobil said. “He could even pardon the bomb-makers.”

The president could even pardon mob members before they’re identified or arrested.

A report on presidential pardons from the Congressional Research Service clarifies that “a pardon may be granted at any time prior to charge, prior to conviction, or following conviction.”

“As long as he defines the group in the pardon document reasonably well so that it includes somebody who later wants to take advantage of it, he can do that,” Professor Bowman explained
."

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...ights/65-f3d17a19-f021-4af5-ad5c-f217c01a5f77

does anybody doubt there's a strong probability he's going to do it?
 
pretty sure he can

he can pardon anybody who participated in the riot:

* "Experts agree it’s one of the broadest constitutional powers, and in the case of Wednesday’s siege of the Capitol, President Trump could pardon the entire mob.

“He can pardon either individual members or groups of people for any federal offense, period, full stop,” Professor Frank Bowman said. “From jaywalking on a federal street to treason.”

Capital University law professor Dan Kobil agreed with Bowman, saying there really aren't restrictions to his authority when it comes to federal offenses.

“The President has the authority to pardon any person who violated any federal laws on that date,” Kobil said. “He could even pardon the bomb-makers.”

The president could even pardon mob members before they’re identified or arrested.

A report on presidential pardons from the Congressional Research Service clarifies that “a pardon may be granted at any time prior to charge, prior to conviction, or following conviction.”

“As long as he defines the group in the pardon document reasonably well so that it includes somebody who later wants to take advantage of it, he can do that,” Professor Bowman explained
."

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...ights/65-f3d17a19-f021-4af5-ad5c-f217c01a5f77

does anybody doubt there's a strong probability he's going to do it?

...the only reason I doubt he would is because he doesn't give a fuck about any of them, but on the other hand it could be used to grift even harder as the god-like hero figure he so loves to be
 
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These Black Capitol Police Officers Describe Fighting Off "Racist Ass Terrorists"

"I found out what they were planning when a friend of mine screenshot me an Instagram story from the Proud Boys saying, 'We're breaching the capitol today, guys. I hope y'all already.'" The officer, who asked to remain anonymous out of fear of retaliation from his superiors, told BuzzFeed News

“That was a heavily trained group of militia terrorists that attacked us," he said. "They had radios, we found them, they had two-way communicators and earpieces. They had bear spray. They had flash bangs ...They were prepared. They strategically put two IEDs, pipe bombs in two different locations. These guys were military trained. A lot of them were former military,” the veteran said, referring to two suspected pipe bombs that were found outside the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee.

The officer even described coming face to face with police officers from across the country in the mob. He said some of them flashed the badges, telling him to let them through, and trying to explain that this was all part of a movement that was supposed to help.

“You have the nerve to be holding a blue lives matter flag, and you are out there fucking us up,” he told one group of protestors he encountered inside the Capitol. “[One guy] pulled out his badge and he said, ‘we're doing this for you.’ Another guy had his badge. So I was like, ‘well, you gotta be kidding.’”

"We were telling them to back up and get away and stop, and they're telling us, they are on our side, and they're doing this for us, and they’re saying this as I'm getting punched in my face by one of them … That happened to a lot of us. We were getting pepper sprayed in the face by those protesters, I'm not going to even call them protestors, by those domestic terrorists,” said the officer.

“There’s quite a big difference when the Black Lives Matter protests come up to the capitol," he said. "[On Wednesday], some officers were catering to the rioters.”

He said that what upset him the most was when he later saw images of a white colleague taking a selfie with the attackers, seeming to enjoy his time with the insurrectionists who were roaming the US Capitol with confederate flags and other symbols of white supremacy.

"That one hurt me the most because I was on the other side of the Capitol getting my ass kicked," he said.

He is certain that if a group of Black Americans had stormed the Capitol they wouldn’t have gotten that kind of friendly reception from his white colleagues.

“If you're going to treat a group of demonstrators for Black Lives Matters one way, then you should treat this group the same god damn way. With this group you were being kind and nice and letting them walk back out. Some of them got arrested but a lot of them didn't. Everyone who came into that Capitol should have been arrested regardless if they didn't take anything.”

“Our chief was nowhere to be found, I didn't hear him on the radio. One of our other deputy chiefs was not there,” he said. “You don't think it's all hands on deck?”

“I sat down with one of my buddies, another Black guy, and tears just started streaming down my face," he said. "I said, 'what the fuck, man? Is this America? What the fuck just happened? I'm so sick and tired of this shit.'"

Soon he was screaming, so that everyone in the rotunda, including his white colleagues, could hear what he had just gone through.

"These are racist ass terrorists," he yelled out.

"I got called a nigger 15 times today,” the veteran officer shouted in the rotunda to no one in particular. "Trump did this and we got all of these fucking people in our department that voted for him. How the fuck can you support him?"

“I cried for about 15 minutes and I just let it out.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmanuelfelton/black-capitol-police-racism-mob
 
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These Black Capitol Police Officers Describe Fighting Off "Racist Ass Terrorists"

"I found out what they were planning when a friend of mine screenshot me an Instagram story from the Proud Boys saying, 'We're breaching the capitol today, guys. I hope y'all already.'" The officer, who asked to remain anonymous out of fear of retaliation from his superiors, told BuzzFeed News

“That was a heavily trained group of militia terrorists that attacked us," he said. "They had radios, we found them, they had two-way communicators and earpieces. They had bear spray. They had flash bangs ...They were prepared. They strategically put two IEDs, pipe bombs in two different locations. These guys were military trained. A lot of them were former military,” the veteran said, referring to two suspected pipe bombs that were found outside the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee.

The officer even described coming face to face with police officers from across the country in the mob. He said some of them flashed the badges, telling him to let them through, and trying to explain that this was all part of a movement that was supposed to help.

“You have the nerve to be holding a blue lives matter flag, and you are out there fucking us up,” he told one group of protestors he encountered inside the Capitol. “[One guy] pulled out his badge and he said, ‘we're doing this for you.’ Another guy had his badge. So I was like, ‘well, you gotta be kidding.’”

"We were telling them to back up and get away and stop, and they're telling us, they are on our side, and they're doing this for us, and they’re saying this as I'm getting punched in my face by one of them … That happened to a lot of us. We were getting pepper sprayed in the face by those protesters, I'm not going to even call them protestors, by those domestic terrorists,” said the officer.

“There’s quite a big difference when the Black Lives Matter protests come up to the capitol," he said. "[On Wednesday], some officers were catering to the rioters.”

He said that what upset him the most was when he later saw images of a white colleague taking a selfie with the attackers, seeming to enjoy his time with the insurrectionists who were roaming the US Capitol with confederate flags and other symbols of white supremacy.

"That one hurt me the most because I was on the other side of the Capitol getting my ass kicked," he said.

He is certain that if a group of Black Americans had stormed the Capitol they wouldn’t have gotten that kind of friendly reception from his white colleagues.

“If you're going to treat a group of demonstrators for Black Lives Matters one way, then you should treat this group the same god damn way. With this group you were being kind and nice and letting them walk back out. Some of them got arrested but a lot of them didn't. Everyone who came into that Capitol should have been arrested regardless if they didn't take anything.”

“Our chief was nowhere to be found, I didn't hear him on the radio. One of our other deputy chiefs was not there,” he said. “You don't think it's all hands on deck?”

“I sat down with one of my buddies, another Black guy, and tears just started streaming down my face," he said. "I said, 'what the fuck, man? Is this America? What the fuck just happened? I'm so sick and tired of this shit.'"

Soon he was screaming, so that everyone in the rotunda, including his white colleagues, could hear what he had just gone through.

"These are racist ass terrorists," he yelled out.

"I got called a nigger 15 times today,” the veteran officer shouted in the rotunda to no one in particular. "Trump did this and we got all of these fucking people in our department that voted for him. How the fuck can you support him?"

“I cried for about 15 minutes and I just let it out.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmanuelfelton/black-capitol-police-racism-mob
I hit the like button because there is no "sad, depressed, frustrated, mad" button.
 
The man who stole podium from Speaker Pelosi's office has been arrested. Not grinning in his mug shot.

Some "revolutionaries". Crying like little boys when they realize they are facing prison time.
 
One of my childhood best friends and his mom used to say redneck was the worst thing you could call a white person. I heard him call someone a redneck one day and his mom got super embarrassed and mad at him. I was confused because I never equated redneck as being bad at like 8 or whatever age I was.

It was pretty enlightening researching the history behind it as I got older.
 
It baffles me that the guy can call the military people losers and they will still do all this for him as ex-military.


Make it make sense. God damn.
 
il say what the mods wont say....


you arent breaking the rules. You are prolong the drama you say i create and you don't like.
Why cant you and a few of your followers move on instead of coming at me when you please and never engaging in anything else?
You know your question is nothing more than an attempt to get me riled up and prolong things just so you can then try to say “he is at it again.....”
take some fucking ownership for your part in shit.... FOR ONCE!!

your followers will not tell you to let it go but then tell me to do so and call me out. You and your followers are simply unable to see the double standard in that. So i bitch about it. if you dont like my bitching have you and your follower stop the hypocrisy or just ignore me.
SO in this post and the one before it, you typed that I had "FOLLOWERS" 5 times and a "CLIQUE" once...... I am curious who these fellow forum members are. I didn't realize I was as great of a leader as you are implying. I'd report this post, but it is honestly a bit flattering.
 
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