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Female Capitol rioter, 22, filmed brandishing broken sign from Nancy Pelosi's office is charged with killing young mom, 32, 'after drunkenly driving her car down wrong side of freeway'
  • Emily Hernandez, 22, was arrested after allegedly crashing into Victoria Wilson, 32, on Wednesday night while driving drunk and the wrong way of I-44 in MO
  • Hernandez was involved in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol last year and was charged with five misdemeanors after participating in a 'Stop the Steal' rally
  • She turned herself in to the FBI weeks later, but prosecutors did not recommend her jail time until the federal trial would be over
  • Wilson, a mother-of-two, leaves behind her husband and two boys, 10, and 15
  • Her husband, Ryan, who was driving at the time of the fatal incident, was taken to hospital for his injuries
  • Hernandez faces possible charges of driving while intoxicated resulting in death, and driving while intoxicated resulting in injury
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cy-Pelosis-office-kills-mother-car-crash.html
 
Joe was honest and pissed off.
Great speech!! BTW: Don't watch Fox News today. The ghouls are behind their desks and the snappy girls are on the couch.
 
stampedehero said:
Joe was honest and pissed off.
Great speech!! BTW: Don't watch Fox News today. The ghouls are behind their desks and the snappy girls are on the couch.
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Joe was reading someone else's words from a teleprompter. Neither he nor Trump can do it without making it completely obvious that they are reading "their" speech to you. We all know they have writers. So no, I don't believe that these were Biden's own words. But everyone else can believe so if they so choose to.
 
Road Ratt said:
Joe was reading someone else's words from a teleprompter. Neither he nor Trump can do it without making it completely obvious that they are reading "their" speech to you. We all know they have writers. So no, I don't believe that these were Biden's own words. But everyone else can believe so if they so choose to.
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The topic are writers. Have you ever seen a president give an hour speech without these tools? Joe and other decent presidents all prepare with the writers before the speech is finished. President Obama was the best. He had rare gifts as an orator. Trump said shit off the cuff like a bull shit artist does. We had seen that in the 016 primaries, throughout his shitty presidency and now in his shamed life.
 
barfo said:
All presidents since Harding have speechwriters. All presidents since Eisenhower use teleprompters. Those aren't meaningful ways to measure a presidential speech.

barfo
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True. I find that the number of drinks induced is a much better measure.
 
stampedehero said:
The topic are writers. Have you ever seen a president give an hour speech without these tools? Joe and other decent presidents all prepare with the writers before the speech is finished. President Obama was the best. He had rare gifts as an orator. Trump said shit off the cuff like a bull shit artist does. We had seen that in the 016 primaries, throughout his shitty presidency and now in his shamed life.
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Obama was the best bald faced liar there is. These people lie, and you people support liars. What makes a Biden supporter any different than a Trump supporter?
 
Open up my eager eyes
Cause I'm Mr. Bothsides

barfo
 
Road Ratt said:
Who cares?

It literally has nothing to do with my post, at all. So I find it odd.

Edit: And if your point was the death threat. Trump had plenty of those too, so your point seems to have no point.
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One razed the capitol building, causing death, the other has yet to do that. The proclivity to use violence is the difference between the two, in my eyes. We can disagree, that's fine.
 
Road Ratt said:
Obama was the best bald faced liar there is. These people lie, and you people support liars. What makes a Biden supporter any different than a Trump supporter?
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...what did he lie about that has you feeling so jaded about him? Genuinely curious where this sentiment is coming from :dunno:
 
Shaboid said:
One razed the capitol building, causing death, the other has yet to do that. The proclivity to use violence is the difference between the two, in my eyes. We can disagree, that's fine.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with their lying. You totally sidestepped the issue...
 
Road Ratt said:
Obama was the best bald faced liar there is. These people lie, and you people support liars. What makes a Biden supporter any different than a Trump supporter?
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Like I said.......The topic are writers. You brought that up. I don't need this. I have more important things to do. Have a nice day.
 
Haakzilla said:
...what did he lie about that has you feeling so jaded about him? Genuinely curious where this sentiment is coming from :dunno:
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And there in lies the problem. Both sides believe their party, and their candidates. The bias is so thick that neither side can see through it.
 
stampedehero said:
Like I said.......The topic are writers. You brought that up. I don't need this. I have more important things to do. Have a nice day.
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Neither side wants to face the truth, and that is the truth.

I do understand though. So have a good one yourself.
 
Road Ratt said:
That has absolutely nothing to do with their lying. You totally sidestepped the issue...
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I was simply answering your question: "What makes a Biden supporter any different than a Trump supporter?".

As far as them all being liars, sure, I don't disagree with you. They (edit: they=past and current presidents) are all complete pieces of shit. Wasn't trying to sidestep anything.
 
Trump supporters lie, biden supporters lie, surely the people who support neither also lie.

What are we doing here?
 
No, Trump did not order 10,000 troops to secure the Capitol on Jan. 6

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-not-order-10000-troops-secure-capitol-jan-6/

“Don’t forget, President Trump requested increased National Guard support in the days leading up to January 6. The request was rejected — by Pelosi, by congressional leaders, including requests, by the way, from the Capitol Police chief.”

— Sean Hannity of Fox News, speaking to former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, Dec. 13

“What we also know is that President Trump wanted to make sure that the people that came, that there was a safe environment for that kind of assembly. And I’ve said that publicly before — the 10,000 National Guard troops that he wanted to make sure that everything was safe and secure. … Obviously having those National Guards available, actually the reason they were able to respond when they did, was because President Trump had actually put them on alert.”

— Meadows, to Hannity

It’s always dismaying when false claims that were previously debunked turn up as accepted facts months later. Yet, increasingly, Fox News hosts and their guests appear to live in a world untethered by the truth.

As we have documented before, President Donald Trump never requested 10,000 National Guard troops to secure the Capitol that day. He threw out a number, in casual conversation, that is now regarded by his supporters as a lifeline to excuse his inaction when a mob inspired by his rhetoric invaded the Capitol.
 
American Psychosis - Chris Hedges on the US empire of narcissism and psychopathy.

 
Tyrant of Ants said:
Better the right-wing talking heads run the country than the "Deep State," I guess. It's right in front of their fucking face and they can't see it. And, it baffles me that they still can't see that the former guy is all about himself 100% of the time. "Look at all those people fighting for ME." 74 million people voted for him. Unfuckingbelievable.
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Just as Hitler was Unfuckingbelievable in Germany during and prior to WW II.
 
Haakzilla said:
...what did he lie about that has you feeling so jaded about him? Genuinely curious where this sentiment is coming from :dunno:
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It’d probably be easier to list things he didn’t lie about. Smaller list.
 
Road Ratt said:
And there in lies the problem. Both sides believe their party, and their candidates. The bias is so thick that neither side can see through it.
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So then where do the people who know all politicians are liars stand when they know that what happened last year is wrong BECAUSE it was predicated on the BIGGEST liar to ever be in office?

Because that's where I stand. It's fucked up no matter WHOSE side youre on, and the fact that there are people that got brainwashed by the biggest liar to ever be in office is the problem. The SINGULAR problem. With the stoking and the misinformation and the hatred. And that, for lack of a better word, trumps everything else. THATS the problem.

We all know politicians are liars. But this is BIGGER than that.

(I'm not directing this at you, just my point of view).

And I am a HUGE Obama guy. Yet I know he lied too. But it never turned into this. Because it's bigger than just a politician lying. It's the misinformation and the stoking that led up to it that led to this SINGULAR epic issue.

THATS the difference. And believe me, if it was a democrat who caused the disinformation and the stoking and the hatred I would be just as pissed and be an independent which is where I feel I'm at regardless.
 
Road Ratt said:
Obama was the best bald faced liar there is. These people lie, and you people support liars. What makes a Biden supporter any different than a Trump supporter?
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Trump attempted a coup of the US government... Biden has never done so.

There is a big difference between supporting a coup and not.
 
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