Jaynes: If the Blazers lose to GS...sh!t hits the fan

[PtldPlatypus]

That doesn't make it right. I have seen Golden State play a lot this season, and they are a very bad team. There is no excuse for letting that happen. So, lets hope it doesn't happen, and the streak ends. But it's not like Anthony Morrow hasn't had career nights against us before when folks refused to guard him on the perimeter, and that is just fucking sad.

No doubt--looking at the talent levels and motivations of the two teams, Portland should win by 25+. However, looking at strengths vs weaknesses, I'm betting it will be a lot closer than it should be.

 

[oldmangrouch]

If Jaynes is guilty of anything, it's (over)stating the obvious. If the Blazers give an honest effort, they are about 90% likely to win.

 

[OddEnormous]

Not sure where I was moaning. There was a debate about whether or not this is a game we should win or not.


I guess this means no one should talk about the draft before it happens? Or the season before it happens? Or the playoffs before they happen? Why do we have a prediction game for a game that hasn't been played yet? Or have threads about the upcoming schedule because we haven't played those games yet?

The entire spirit of the thread is moaning about not beating GS.

 

[hasoos]

If Jaynes is guilty of anything, it's (over)stating the obvious. If the Blazers give an honest effort, they are about 90% likely to win.

I'll take a dishonest effort. As long as somebody finally plays with effort!

 

[The_Lillard_King]

If Jaynes is guilty of anything, it's (over)stating the obvious. If the Blazers give an honest effort, they are about 90% likely to win.

Exactly. Jaynes is making a big deal out of something that is likely not to happen.

In fact couldn't have Jaynes wrote a similar article when the Blazedrs played the Kings. I think he choose this game to do it because he knows there is more of an upset potential in this game (Blazers against a team they don't play well on the road).

 

[maxiep]

oldguy... i just dont wanna hear any excuses if we lose tonight

Rudy, the solution is simple: go outside and walk around your beige clapboard apartment complex in Bristol, CT.

 

[maxiep]

The problem isn't that we're cursed in Oakland or that we don't play well there. The problem is that Don Nelson owns Nate. He's so unpredicable, Nate can't crack him. When you combine that fact with the Warriors playing much better at home than the road, especially when that crowd gets going, and you have a tough game.

Crazy Donnie + High energy play = Warrior dominance over the Blazers at Oracle.

All that being said, I expect us to win tonight.

 

[hasoos]

The problem isn't that we're cursed in Oakland or that we don't play well there. The problem is that Don Nelson owns Nate. He's so unpredicable, Nate can't crack him. When you combine that fact with the Warriors playing much better at home than the road, especially when that crowd gets going, and you have a tough game.

Crazy Donnie + High energy play = Warrior dominance over the Blazers at Oracle.

All that being said, I expect us to win tonight.

Exactamundo! See the problem with Nate, as I have seen it all through the years, is Nate is a matchup coach. He will matchup with other coaches, even if it is to our detriment to do so. Don Nelson knows his players strengths is small ball. He also knows Nate is match up coach, much like Avory Johnson who he owned in the playoffs a few years ago. He just goes small, wait for Nate to match up, and then knows he has the advantage because that is his teams strength, and rolls the dice.

By the way, matchup coaches don't win finals. Coaches that dictate the mismatches, do.

 

[e_blazer]

By the way, matchup coaches don't win finals. Coaches that dictate the mismatches, do.

I think it's more correct to say, coaches that dictate the mismatches because they have players capable of dictating mismatches, win finals.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Exactamundo! See the problem with Nate, as I have seen it all through the years, is Nate is a matchup coach. He will matchup with other coaches, even if it is to our detriment to do so. Don Nelson knows his players strengths is small ball. He also knows Nate is match up coach, much like Avory Johnson who he owned in the playoffs a few years ago. He just goes small, wait for Nate to match up, and then knows he has the advantage because that is his teams strength, and rolls the dice.

By the way, matchup coaches don't win finals. Coaches that dictate the mismatches, do.

I don't think it is the coaches that dictate the mismatches . . . it's the players on the team.

Give me Kobe or Lebron, I'll show a mismatch. In fact isn't one of Nate's fault that he runs iso with Roy all the time down the stretch . . . isn't that dictating a mismatch (when Roy is healthy)

 

[hasoos]

I think it's more correct to say, coaches that dictate the mismatches because they have players capable of dictating mismatches, win finals.

Would they even be there if they didn't have them?

 

[THE HCP]

What a combo!?!?!?!?! I can't believe that a fucking thread started by this jackhole quoting ANOTHER jackhole actually now has 39 posts! What a combo!

 

[Cake]

and ellis is returning tonight... we are fucked

Monta Ellis is to overrated as Mixum is to Rudy Cee.

 

[e_blazer]

Would they even be there if they didn't have them?

Ummm, yeah. Nelson is able to get away with forcing teams to try and match up with his small ball lineups because he has players who excel in running and hitting outside shots. If he doesn't have those players, Nate just laughs at him and plays our usual lineup.

 

[hasoos]

Ummm, yeah. Nelson is able to get away with forcing teams to try and match up with his small ball lineups because he has players who excel in running and hitting outside shots. If he doesn't have those players, Nate just laughs at him and plays our usual lineup.

What does that have to do with the finals comment?

 

[e_blazer]

What does that have to do with the finals comment?

Nelson is an example of a coach who is able to get the opposing team to change the way they play in order to match up with the unusual lineups he throws out there. My point is that at any level, including the finals, a coach has to have players that are really good at playing something other than the typical style in order to force the opponent to change. Right now, I'm not sure that the Blazers, for instance, have players capable of a particular dominant style of play that, no matter who the coach is, they would be able to force the opposing coach to change what they're doing. I"m hoping that will change with a healthy Oden.

 

[ABM]

People get ready.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

People get ready.

If you drop shit into a fan and are standing directly behind the fan, does any shit get on you?

 

[hasoos]

Nelson is an example of a coach who is able to get the opposing team to change the way they play in order to match up with the unusual lineups he throws out there. My point is that at any level, including the finals, a coach has to have players that are really good at playing something other than the typical style in order to force the opponent to change. Right now, I'm not sure that the Blazers, for instance, have players capable of a particular dominant style of play that, no matter who the coach is, they would be able to force the opposing coach to change what they're doing. I"m hoping that will change with a healthy Oden.

Not true. Matchup coaches will match up every time. Every single time. Mike Dunleavy. Nate McMillan. Avory Johnson. You don't have to do anything special, but put a mismatch out there, to force them to react. Meanwhile coaches like Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich, and Jerry Sloan, run their same stuff no matter what you do. They force you to play against their strength. If you go small, they kick the shit out of you with their bigs, which is their normal lineup.

 

[e_blazer]

Not true. Matchup coaches will match up every time. Every single time. Mike Dunleavy. Nate McMillan. Avory Johnson. You don't have to do anything special, but put a mismatch out there, to force them to react. Meanwhile coaches like Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich, and Jerry Sloan, run their same stuff no matter what you do. They force you to play against their strength. If you go small, they kick the shit out of you with their bigs, which is their normal lineup.

Which presupposes that you've got dominant bigs. Do the Blazers have dominant bigs at this point in time? Guys who can post up Nelson's small lineup and kick the shit out of the Warriors? I guess if we had Jackson, Popovich or Sloan as a coach Aldridge and Camby would instantly become power players.

 

[e_blazer]

I guess if we had Jackson, Popovich or Sloan as a coach Aldridge and Camby would instantly become power players.

You know, upon reflection, in Aldridge's case that might actually be true. I think Sloan or Pop would rip him a new one if he wasn't more aggressive at going to the hole and rebounding.

 

[hasoos]

You know, upon reflection, in Aldridge's case that might actually be true. I think Sloan or Pop would rip him a new one if he wasn't more aggressive at going to the hole and rebounding.

I think you are correct.

 

[hasoos]

Speaking of shit hitting the fan:

 

[MickZagger]

daily quotes by washed up journalists that has to resort to being a blogger is the best material you can come up with on a daily basis?

 

[ABM]

daily quotes by washed up journalists that has to resort to being a blogger is the best material you can come up with on a daily basis?

I remember a year ago about this time....Jaynes was literally begging for a job via his blog. Talk about a pathetic way of doing things.

 

[MickZagger]

I remember a year ago about this time....Jaynes was literally begging for a job via his blog. Talk about a pathetic way of doing things.

I know, now he thinks he's some kind of portland sports media icon.

 

[hasoos]

I remember a year ago about this time....Jaynes was literally begging for a job via his blog. Talk about a pathetic way of doing things.

I don't like Jaynes, but taking swipes at his personal problems that really have nothing to do with topic is basically useless. Because remember...even unemployed people can have an opinion about the Blazers!

 

[ABM]

I don't like Jaynes, but taking swipes at his personal problems that really have nothing to do with topic is basically useless. Because remember...even unemployed people can have an opinion about the Blazers!

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[THE HCP]

I know, now he thinks he's some kind of portland sports media icon.

Zags, this is no joke, I got asked to be a guest on Talkin' Ball after the Pacers game 2 weeks ago. Said no thanks, don't know what I'd say if I was on set with that tool and Ian Furness! How sad that they have to ask ME to be on there, that's how hard up they are for guests.

 

[ABM]

I know, now he thinks he's some kind of portland sports media icon....

".....on 95 5 the game."