Jaynes: Roy is pouting and faking

[SlyPokerDog]

But what we’re seeing from Brandon Roy right now isn’t just a physical thing. Rumors abound. Put your ear to the NBA ground and you hear all sorts of things. One of the murmurs making the rounds right now is that there’s really nothing more wrong with his knees today than there was a year ago. No, they say it’s much more than that.

They say he’s not happy with what’s gone on here.

The theory espoused to me yesterday by one NBA insider is that Roy is feeling lost and alone in Portland now that his sidekicks — Martell Webster, Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake — are all gone. He feels abandoned. That makes sense to a degree and also helps explain the idea that the team was attempting to trade for one of his old pals, Jamal Crawford of the Atlanta Hawks.

And oh yes, that little rumor also includes the idea that he doesn’t think much of the team’s front office and that he’s not real excited about Coach Nate McMillan lately, either.

The result is that he’s pouting — big-time pouting. And that he’s just not putting out right now. And the addendum to that theory is that he still has trade value — that if teams were to trade for him, he’d perk up again, particularly for a winning team, and return to his previous form. So would that make Roy more tradeable than we thought?

No way, says one general manager I spoke with.

“I cannot imagine any of us being able to go to our owner and convince him to commit to the kind of money that’s owed him,” he said. “There’s just no chance. Not, at least, without extensive medical examination. I just don’t see it happening.”

And for those calling for big, bold Trail Blazer moves, well, Rich Cho is going to have to turn into a magician to make those happen.

“What moves can they make?” one NBA executive asked me. “Unless they want to take back a contract worse than Roy’s, there are no deals out there for them. There are always people around who want to dispose of bad contracts. For Portland, they just don’t have many moves they can make. They are locked in on players to the point where they really don’t have much they can do.

http://www.dwightjaynes.com/theres-more-bothering-employee-no-7-than-just-sore-knees

 

[MIXUM]

2 things...

1. i thought Roy was insane?

2. posting dwight jaynes material here is dangerous

 

[HailBlazers]

More Great Theories/Rumors by the BaldFather.

“What moves can they make?” one NBA executive asked me. “Unless they want to take back a contract worse than Roy’s, there are no deals out there for them. There are always people around who want to dispose of bad contracts. For Portland, they just don’t have many moves they can make. They are locked in on players to the point where they really don’t have much they can do.

Wake up Blazer fans! Blow yourselves up, or learn some patience

 

[e_blazer]

Hmmm. A couple of days ago, according to Jaynes, Roy was psycho. Today, he's just pouting.

Sounds like improvement to me.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Cho is very inexperienced and has been very idle with a team below .500. Though, he likely has absolutely NO pull with this team and is merely Paul and Larry's puppet. With the lack of assets we're pretty much screwed and likely to take the long 're-build through the draft' rout.

Oh, it doesn't help that the "franchise player" is ego tripping, either.

 

[maxiep]

Yeah, there's no way he could just be angry and frustrated because he can't carry this team the way he did before. It has to be because he has psychological issues or is petulant.

Dwight ain't no Dr. Phil.

 

[MIXUM]

its funny how back and fourth you guys are...

first we had great expiring contracts in joel and miller.... now we have no trading assets. hmmm....

 

[maxiep]

its funny how back and fourth you guys are...

first we had great expiring contracts in joel and miller.... now we have no trading assets. hmmm....

The problem is, what do you trade for? Our window isn't open any more. We thought about trading Miller for a player who works better next to Roy. We thought about trading Joel for a backup four. We're not making a deep run in the playoffs, so it may be better if we let them drop off our cap. But we don't really even know what to do because we don't know what shape the new CBA will take.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Yeah, there's no way he could just be angry and frustrated because he can't carry this team the way he did before. It has to be because he has psychological issues or is petulant.

Dwight ain't no Dr. Phil.

I think Jaynes just throws ideas out there so that he can go back to find the right one, disregarding the twenty other failed explanations. We saw him throw alot of different explanations for the Penn firing. Even though he does not have the ability to look at Brandon's medical record or around the lockerroom, he has now tried to explain Roy's dropoff with it being medical, OCD, then it not being medical and pouting.

Agree with your assertion in another thread that it is just not worth listening to.

 

[MIXUM]

i think the only answer is IF theres a trade that improves us at pg or pf... you take it without thinking twice.

miller could also be a blazer next year if we cant do any better. but trading those guys for cap relief is dumb. they come off books anyway in summer. make a run at playoffs and see what happens. this team still has talent regardless if they get booted in round 1.

 

[hasoos]

2 things...

1. i thought Roy was insane?

2. posting dwight jaynes material here is dangerous

There is nothing wrong with being insane. Just remember, its the people that can't handle being insane that go shoot a bunch of people that make the rest of us look bad.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I have been expecting this article. Not because I think he is pouting or faking, but because it looks like he is. One day he looks fine, and the next day he looks like he is going through the motions. If people can say it about Kobe and LeBron, then it was inevitable that they would say it about Roy. I don't know the answer, but last night he looked unsure of how he needed to help the team. Shoot or let LMA, Batum, and Wes take over. I am really pissed we lost last night. Winning with him scoring 4 pts would have been nice.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I really don't give Jaynes a lot of weight.

"Roy got the big $$ - now he is spoiled and pouting." It happens frequently enough, that it becomes an easy explanation to grab hold of. Roy bashing team-mates to the media doesn't help matters.

The sad part is, I almost hope he is right! At least this would be a fixable problem, unlike permanent knee damage.

 

[hasoos]

Well the reality is, if you were Brandon Roy and if your knee's were going bad, you would probably be upset too, and yes it would be hard to deal with. I feel bad for the guy. It's completely horrible what has happened to him and this franchise. I don't think he is faking though. Nobody wants to be a failure, and the best way to get what you want, is to play so well you are an important enough piece that they listen to you.

 

[Minstrel]

If I were 26 and had risen to the top of a highly elite field due to working like a dog for years and I was seeing it all crumble, I'd probably not be at my best, emotionally or outward personality.

 

[mook]

His PER is sinking like a rock. It's 15.0 now.

In the three games he's had this year with 2 or more days off, he's been just as good as the old Brandon Roy. Two of those games were on the road, one against OKC. The first one was only 3 games into the season, and the second two he'd played under 23 minutes in the prior game.

The dude is just not physically able to hack playing big minutes. Nate needs to tell Roy to STFU about how he doesn't need his minutes monitored, because he does. Severely.

I'm less concerned about him starting or not. Let him start, if that's what's good for his ego. It may help him stay limber, anyway, by not starting the game on the bench. But Nate needs to let him know he's only playing 20 minutes if there are back-to-back games, and 28 or so minutes tops. It's Arvydas Sabonis rule-time. (I went with him over Yao for the metaphor because I'm an optimist.)

The season is a marathon and Roy is still trying to sprint. (Well, metaphorically anyway. In reality he's barely trotting out there.) The team can always adjust his minutes upwards if it looks like he can handle more, but this 37 mpg nonsense is over.

One glimmer of hope on Roy in last night's game: 29 minutes played.

 

[RR7]

If I were 26 and had risen to the top of a highly elite field due to working like a dog for years and I was seeing it all crumble, I'd probably not be at my best, emotionally or outward personality.

You lie. Not only would you be walking around smiling, but you'd also offer to give your salary back to the team.

 

[illmatic99]

Kinda contradicting points in that article. First he says Roy's problem might not be in his knees. Then he cites someone who says that his knees are shot. And anyone who has seen Roy run in the few weeks knows Roy's knees are done.

 

[anonymous gambler]

We have a great trading chip in Andre Miller- he's got a talent and is an expiring contract. Likewise with Camby. Which contender wouldn't want one or the other? If I'm Oklahoma, a trade for Camby would make sense. Likewise, for Orlando, imagine the alley-ops with Miller to Howard.

That said, I'm willing to be patient to see what Cho does with our assets. It does seem clear that we're not contending this year or next. That said, I'd like to see how the Batum/Matthews starting lineup does.

 

[blazedanugz]

i thought he was pouting long before this article was written. andre miller=the ache in Broys knees

 

[SnakeOiler]

Jaynes is a retard. He says what he does to get people to listen to his crap. You all fall for it.

 

[bodyman5001]

Yeah, there's no way he could just be angry and frustrated because he can't carry this team the way he did before. It has to be because he has psychological issues or is petulant.

Dwight ain't no Dr. Phil.

I saw him APPEAR to go hard after a loose ball last night and Jason Kidd's 90 year old butt blew right by him. That would have to be frustrating at some level.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I really doubt that he's either pouting or faking. His body has failed him and there is always an emotional toll when something like this happens. If anything he's probably struggling with depression and know how much confidence can affect on-court performance it's no shock to see him flailing and seemingly going through the motions. It's a rough enough break without local talking head types playing arm-chair psychologist and calling into question his work ethic, sanity, etc.

 

[Kaydow]

I really doubt that he's either pouting or faking. His body has failed him and there is always an emotional toll when something like this happens. If anything he's probably struggling with depression and know how much confidence can affect on-court performance it's no shock to see him flailing and seemingly going through the motions. It's a rough enough break without local talking head types playing arm-chair psychologist and calling into question his work ethic, sanity, etc.

My thoughts exactly. No way he's faking. Did anybody see him chase after that loose ball against Orlando? or run down that steal last night? He is clearly hurt. Besides, if he was faking it . . . why not just sit out? Why go our and play like a turd? He's said all year he doesn't want to miss games, and Then he comes out last week and says "no more monitoring my minutes". That's a guy who wants to play, he's just in a bad spot. But he's not faking the injuries by any means

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Yep now he can sit home get fat making a 100k a game without even being in the arena! NICE!!! I would think you free lunch guys on this board would love this!!! Ironclad contract that pays him to pout and disrupt the teams chemistry! This is exactly what we'd hoped our franchise player would become! HAHAHAHAHA!

 

[LameR]

Jaynes is a straight up idiot.

 

[Minstrel]

This is exactly what we'd hoped our franchise player would become!

It is? I don't recall any Blazers fans on this forum hoping this is what would become of Roy.

Can you link to posts detailing those hopes, please?

 

[Ghost Pepper]

clever, how's that working out for you! hahaha

 

[Minstrel]

clever, how's that working out for you! hahaha

Hehe, pretty good, thanks.