Jaynes says in so many words "not gonna work"

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Some random thoughts generated by Sunday night's game, which wasn't nearly as close as the score indicated:

-- Some nights, it's just not there. You almost have to walk away from such games and not think about them anymore. Stuff happens.

-- That said, there are some things to worry about, too. The Blazers couldn't hit an outside shot and had a terrible time on the boards. A one-night fluke? Maybe, but consider this: The Blazers added yet another player to their rotation who can't make outside shots. Gerald Wallace is not a long-range shooter, not even a medium-range shooter. He's a slasher and a finisher. Also, Portland also traded two bigs, Dante Cunningham and Joel Przybilla, for a small, in Wallace. And the Blazers weren't all that big to begin with.

-- Once again, Portland is stuck with a nasty roster imbalance. Coach Nate McMillan has way too many players out on the wing. We're talking about Brandon Roy, Wesley Matthews, Nic Batum and Rudy Fernandez -- all of them are pretty much interchangeable, although at least another guy, Gerald Wallace (who I still see as a lot more of a small forward than a power forward) is a rebounder. Roy is the only consistent outside shooter of the bunch.

-- If the Blazers don't learn quickly how to make best use of Wallace that trade is not going to look very good. Man, posting him up and isolating him 18 feet from the basket are not the right things. He needs to be off the ball and slashing. You've got to move the ball and let him move and then get him the ball at the rim. It would also help if you ran a fast break once in a while. Man, four fast-break points is ridiculous.

-- Speaking of that, we learned earlier this season that using Brandon Roy as a point guard doesn't work very well. And the Portland second unit, which is probably most effective on the run, isn't going to run with Roy at the point. It seemed McMillan seemed to agree with that in the second half when he threw Patty Mills on the floor. Problem is, without using Roy at the point, it's going to be hard to get everyone their minutes.

-- I'm afraid, eventually, one of those wing players -- most likely Fernandez -- is going to have to be left out of the rotation. I just don't see how you can get them all adequate minutes and as painful as it is, one of them probably is going to have to sit.

-- Roy isn't going to be happy with 15 minutes a game much longer. He's been a starter all his life and it's not easy for him to jump-start his game in limited minutes. They might be better off just to play him 30 minutes for as many games as he can do it and then just put him on the shelf when his knees act up.

-- Camby simply has to play better than he did Sunday night. He's got to rebound and block shots -- and not take bad shots. He's the only legit center on the roster and he's got to play like one for Portland to have a chance. I'm also wondering about the undercurrent with him and his teammates and coaching staff because of his resistance to coming back from his knee injury before the trading deadline. Word, too, is that the team was hopeful he would return for Friday's game vs. Denver but he said he couldn't go but promised he'd play Sunday. He couldn't play Friday but started the game Sunday? There were people in that locker room a little befuddled by that.

-- Obviously, this team's got to get another big man in here fast. And there's hope the guy is actually capable of lending a hand. If not, this is a pretty small team. Yes, LaMarcus Aldridge is their backup center. Well, then who is the backup power forward? Not Gerald Wallace, really. He's a small forward, just like Batum. Again, roster imbalance is not a good thing.
 
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to me it looked like a cluster fuck of guys who were all trying to play their own style. like chickens with their heads cut off.

the scariest thing.... they simply cant afford to lose 2-3 in a row. there is no time to gel.
 
The best thing the Blazers can do is hope B Roy's knees give again, cause eveyone here knows that even though Roy isn't saying it yet, he expects to be the star again! Problem is the ball stops, our offense watches, and we lose!

Nate needs to grow a sack and tell BRoy that his days of calling the shots for this team are over, he can be a helpful sixth man but that's it! It's LA's team now! Roy can except it or face the reality that no other team in the NBA is going to make him a starter with his knee condition. THAT IS FACT!!! I don't want to see Nate placate Roy at the expense of this team W/L. This team can be a solid 4 seed if we go back to what was working a week ago!
 
4 seed? i dont even know if they make the playoffs
 
Biggest issue I have is that Dwight has made these observations after Wallace was first available to participate with this team at shoot around Sunday. I think I'd give it a couple of weeks of games and practices before declaring things might not work.

I agree posting Gerald and isolating him 15 feet from the basket does not look like his comfort zone, but what did you expect from his first appearance with the team? Running the offense with the crispness we've seen as of late wasn't going to happen. There were a couple of times that Wallace would have been open for a lob 'ala LaMarcus on that curl play they run with Rudy. Both times instead of going to the basket and looking for the pass Gerald popped to the corner. In time he'll realize that Rudy will get him the ball and get it to him in a place to finish. He just needs the reps.
 
According to Jaynes, Dante Cunningham is a "big" at 6'8. And Gerald Wallace is a "small" at 6'7. Really? One inch makes all that much difference?
 
in even less words... Jaynes is garbage.
 
I like Dante but for goodness sake.... Wallace is a huge upgrade and Joel was so slow out there it was almost painful to watch.... Not good points! The way I see the west is Spurs, Lakers, Mavs, Thunder, Blazers... The THunder are starting to struggle now... I'd be happy with a five seed too and that is very doable!
 
wheels....

jaynes is garbage? why? cause hes not rah rah?

jaynes and vance made a lot of people look dumb on here.
 
Amazing that he can obtain all the info needed to make this opinion in only 48 minutes. Everybody should remember we also lost our first game after the Camby trade.
 
wheels....

jaynes is garbage? why? cause hes not rah rah?

jaynes and vance made a lot of people look dumb on here.

I have a great comeback for this, but I was told I would be banned if I continued my mistreatment of the MIXUM. So I will decline to comment.
 
Ask your wife......... it really does................ BAM!!!!!!
Thanks for that thoughtful contribution to the discussion. I guess it's your "insider" status on the team that enables you to make such intelligent comments.
 
Thanks for that thoughtful contribution to the discussion. I guess it's your "insider" status on the team that enables you to make such intelligent comments.

No...... just my "INSIDE" status with your wife................ BAM!
 
Hey if that's true man, I am sorry. I did not know that and didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I am an equal oportunity jerk.
 
funny how a guy gets a reputation as not being a threat from outside and it sticks no matter what - shoot .371 from 3P for a year, doesn't matter.
 
wheels....

jaynes is garbage? why? cause hes not rah rah?

jaynes and vance made a lot of people look dumb on here.

no.. he is garbage cause he is garbage. I couldnt care less if someone is rah rah or not. :)

Jaynes times at the MSP made me dislike him very much. I'm not questioning his sources, he obviously has more than me. But what you posted is his opinion, which is what any of us in here have as well... and I think he is garbage :)

I like Vance, seems like a good guy. And he is from the Gorge.
I even like Canzano (I think I'm in the .5% who do) and he is far from Rah Rah.
 
I can't believe people are actually kind of shocked that they looked as discombobulated as they did. They were trying to integrate too many players back into the rotation with too little practice time together and their debut came against one of the most athletic opportunistic teams in the league. Of course there are going to be some kinks to be worked out, of course they didn't look in sync.

I'd say give it a week or two before making any kinds of judgements about whether or not it can work.
 
Wallace isn't the best outside shooter, but he's not terrible either. What Portland needs to do is install an offense that takes advantage of the players we have. Batum, Roy, Miller, Wallace, Matthews, Rudy are all good at slashing. While they can all shoot somewhat, all of them are very good going to the basket. Instead of the constant clear outs and ISO's the team might be better off running cutters off back screens and runing cutters off top screens to get the defense moving around. That might cause the double teams to be less effective and maybe, just maybe, allow for some layups within the offense
 
Listening To Jaynes and Tone on Talking Ball last night and it's apparent: Jaynes is Short Sided. Tone can see past 1 game.

I'll take Antonio's opinion Anyday, over dwight's
 
very fitting that mixum is a jaynes fan...

it was one game. we still make the playoffs, and it wont be long at all until all the players are in a rhythm with the new rotation. roster wont be unbalanced for long when we pick up another center (or make that adjustment in the off season). the only real problem he points out here is roy. needs to change his mindset for the team to be successful with him. wallace is still a great trade to the long term success of the team.
 
Tone is garbage as well lol. The MSP was awful thats the truth! :)
 
Listening To Jaynes and Tone on Talking Ball last night and it's apparent: Jaynes is Short Sided. Tone can see past 1 game.

I'll take Antonio's opinion Anyday, over dwight's



I would value Tone's opinion more if uncle Paul didn't sign his paychecks. I think it will work, but there does need to be some adjustments made by both players and coaches
 
While I agree that it's way too soon to draw many conclusions about what will and won't work given last night's understandably disoriented showing, I do tend to agree with Jaynes that the idea of Roy/Rudy playing PG is not going to work well. Patty, or TJ Ford assuming that rumor is true, is going to do a much better job of setting up the offense than using a SG out of position. Eventually, I think Rudy and Batum are going to hits in the PT department as a result.
 

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