Free Agent Jerami Grant 5/160

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PO. Jesus christ
 
Jeeze Jerami…. You couldn’t sign a few hours before I did my podcast?
 
How tradable will this be this or next deadline? He better ball out, 20/5/5 on 35+ % from 3.
 
Do we know how it breaks down? I’d love to know if they front loaded it.
 
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Spotrac has these numbers. They took off the "estimated" tag so it looks like this is it.

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Giving the player option on the 5th year is ridiculous. I'm not sure this contract will have trade value. Look at what the Wizards got for Beal - I think we'll get less if we can even move it this season. We probably eat it for a year or two hoping for better offers, then eventually move on to a different insignificant player on a similar deal just like with Evan Turner/Meyers Leonard/etc.

Blazers would've been better off letting Grant walk for nothing.

The Ant and Thybulle contracts are fine.

The GP2/Grant/Nurk contracts have been very poor moves by Cronin.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Giving the player option on the 5th year is ridiculous. I'm not sure this contract will have trade value. Look at what the Wizards got for Beal - I think we'll get less if we can even move it this season. We probably eat it for a year or two hoping for better offers, then eventually move on to a different insignificant player on a similar deal just like with Evan Turner/Meyers Leonard/etc.

Blazers would've been better off letting Grant walk for nothing.

The Ant and Thybulle contracts are fine.

The GP2/Grant/Nurk contracts have been very poor moves by Cronin.
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The GP2 deal was moveable so it wasn’t that bad. It was just a stupid signing.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The GP2 deal was moveable so it wasn’t that bad. It was just a stupid signing.
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Another stupid Cronin transaction when Brown was available for cheaper. We get it. Cronin made a lot of mistakes and continues to do so. I'm happy he didn't further screw things up by trading both our lotto picks. Let's see if he can actually get some good young talent back for Dame. I'll be the first to give him credit.
 
AmirIcon said:
Another stupid Cronin transaction when Brown was available for cheaper. We get it. Cronin made a lot of mistakes and continues to do so. I'm happy he didn't further screw things up by trading both our lotto picks. Let's see if he can actually get some good young talent back for Dame. I'll be the first to give him credit.
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Because we needed another short guard? You’re bashing on signing a short guard and then suggesting they sign another short guard.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
Because we needed another short guard? You’re bashing on signing a short guard and then suggesting they sign another short guard.
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Brown played primarily at SF the last two years. He's two inches taller than Simons or GPII. He's an excellent defender both in Denver and previously in Brooklyn. He would've been an exceptional addition last summer and it made no sense to target the clearly inferior GPII.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Brown played primarily at SF the last two years. He's two inches taller than Simons or GPII. He's an excellent defender both in Denver and previously in Brooklyn. He would've been an exceptional addition last summer and it made no sense to target the clearly inferior GPII.
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He’s still under 6’6. Why do people want to keep signing guys who are undersized?
 
Natebishop3 said:
He’s still under 6’6. Why do people want to keep signing guys who are undersized?
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Well ideally sure we'd get a great tall two way 6'9" forward that can be a quality backup or occasional starter. None were available for the MLE though, its probably the hardest position to fill in this league.

There's rarely starting/backup level players available for the MLE. If you can add one at any position you do it. Brown plays backup SF just fine. Blazers were playing Keon Johnson at guard last season. If they had wanted to win Bruce Brown would've been a great bench addition last year. Plus a 7 foot vet minimum guy to fill in for Nurks injuries. Could have totally changed the Blazers season last year if they had those contributors, didn't trade Hart, and didn't tank.

I don't want to get in an argument about that hypothetical vs where we are now with Scoot, that wasn't my point. I'm just saying Brown was a great signing option and clearly much superior to GPII. It would've been very easy for a competent GM to make those two moves last year if they truly wanted to try and win. It seems Cronin either sort of stealth tanked or has a mixture of incompetency that is concerning.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Spotrac has these numbers. They took off the "estimated" tag so it looks like this is it.

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the one thing that kinda sucks about signing Matisse now and not being able to dump Nurk/dame yet is it ate up space that could have been used to make Grants contract a declining one.

Assuming they moved off of Dame and didn’t resign Grant, they could have made this year like 40+ million and then had it be a nice little 25 mil contract in remaining years. Instead it increases to 36m. Sucks.
 
Freshtown said:
the one thing that kinda sucks about signing Matisse now and not being able to dump Nurk/dame yet is it ate up space that could have been used to make Grants contract a declining one.

Assuming they moved off of Dame and didn’t resign Grant, they could have made this year like 40+ million and then had it be a nice little 25 mil contract in remaining years. Instead it increases to 36m. Sucks.
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I think declines are limited to 8% or something so it couldn't quite drop that much; but yes the contract could've been structured to decline and worth more in a trade next year or especially two years from now.

However the player option in year 5 is a huge problem with trade value. If Grant is good he will bolt or get a raise, if he sucks the team is stuck paying it. Really hurts the trade value.
 
One guy rates this as one of the worst re-signing deals:

  1. The Portland Trail Blazers likely entered this offseason under the belief that any hope they had in keeping Damian Lillard happy began with bringing back Jerami Grant.

    Well, as soon as the market opened, they routed every Brink's truck in the Pacific Northwest in Grant's direction and quickly got his commitment on a five-year, $160 million deal. And guess what happened? Lillard decided he was done with Portland, anyway.

    Assuming the Blazers eventually grant Lillard's wish—at least by trading him somewhere, if not to his preferred destination of the Miami Heat—you'd think they would want to immediately pivot into a long-term rebuild around Scoot Henderson and Shaedon Sharpe. Portland insists that isn't the case, though.

    "Our goal is to win to keep moving forward," Blazers general manager Joe Cronin told reporters. "We feel like our talent base is high."

    Portland, for the record, went a combined 60-104 over the past two seasons, and that was with Lillard making 87 appearances. If Dame couldn't elevate this roster, who on earth is supposed to do that now? Good luck if the answer is Grant. He's a fine player, but the only team that leaned on him as a primary option was the Detroit Pistons, who went 43-111 during his two-year tenure.

    He simply isn't worth this kind of coin—his 14.0 career player efficiency rating is actually a tick below league-average—and the only (relatively) reasonable rationale for the overpay was to keep Lillard happy. That obviously didn't happen, putting Portland in a wholly troublesome spot with Grant. At this pay rate, he might be impossible to trade for the next few seasons without incentivizing a team to take on his contract.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10083720-biggest-re-signing-mistakes-of-2023-nba-free-agency
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
One guy rates this as one of the worst re-signing deals:

  1. The Portland Trail Blazers likely entered this offseason under the belief that any hope they had in keeping Damian Lillard happy began with bringing back Jerami Grant.

    Well, as soon as the market opened, they routed every Brink's truck in the Pacific Northwest in Grant's direction and quickly got his commitment on a five-year, $160 million deal. And guess what happened? Lillard decided he was done with Portland, anyway.

    Assuming the Blazers eventually grant Lillard's wish—at least by trading him somewhere, if not to his preferred destination of the Miami Heat—you'd think they would want to immediately pivot into a long-term rebuild around Scoot Henderson and Shaedon Sharpe. Portland insists that isn't the case, though.

    "Our goal is to win to keep moving forward," Blazers general manager Joe Cronin told reporters. "We feel like our talent base is high."

    Portland, for the record, went a combined 60-104 over the past two seasons, and that was with Lillard making 87 appearances. If Dame couldn't elevate this roster, who on earth is supposed to do that now? Good luck if the answer is Grant. He's a fine player, but the only team that leaned on him as a primary option was the Detroit Pistons, who went 43-111 during his two-year tenure.

    He simply isn't worth this kind of coin—his 14.0 career player efficiency rating is actually a tick below league-average—and the only (relatively) reasonable rationale for the overpay was to keep Lillard happy. That obviously didn't happen, putting Portland in a wholly troublesome spot with Grant. At this pay rate, he might be impossible to trade for the next few seasons without incentivizing a team to take on his contract.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10083720-biggest-re-signing-mistakes-of-2023-nba-free-agency
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Meh.... it's really not that bad. Look at what Jaylen Brown just signed for.
 
I have no problem with Jody spending money on the Blazers....if she didn't sign good players for attractive contracts, people would bitch about how "cheap" she is. Jerami is a great piece at a position of need who wants to play for the Blazers....that doesn't happen all the time.
 
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