Free Agent Jerami Grant 5/160

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trade at the deadline next year
 
Free agent signings come with a 3-month trade restriction from the day of signing.(Jan 1, 2023)
 
"Teams can start negotiating contracts with players on June 30 at 6 p.m. ET, officially kicking off the start of free agency. However, while those verbal agreements may be in place, contracts won't actually become official until the moratorium period is lifted on July 6." (1 day ago)
 
Ed O said:
I would bet that the contract has been submitted to the office, so it's all signed and official.

Assuming that's the case, you can't back out. It has the force of law, in addition to the force of NBA rules, etc.
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Law doesn't matter when discretion with agents and trust of GMs keeping their word are needed to get moves done.

The law only matter when there is no working relationship, and parties are trying to back out.
 
In retrospect, it actually isn't that bad, compared to the crap we've seen yesterday and today. I think it could be a tradable deal at some point.
 
maxiep said:
In retrospect, it actually isn't that bad, compared to the crap we've seen yesterday and today. I think it could be a tradable deal at some point.
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Was it John Nash that gave Miles and Theo Ratliff the massive contracts?

Are least Cronin is much better at the draft than John Nash.
 
At this point if we don’t trade with Brooklyn I would see if we could do Grant for Simmons and a couple picks before the trade deadline.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
At this point if we don’t trade with Brooklyn I would see if we could do Grant for Simmons and a couple picks before the trade deadline.
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CJ_is_Gone said:
I wonder if Portland can front-load the contract. Pay him $38m this season and have it decline every season after
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Good idea. Depends how much salary we save on a Dame trade and if we sign Thybulle or an MLE player. If we don't have much under the tax then it probably doesn't matter.

But if we are 20 million under the tax or something making Grants deal front loaded would mean in a year or two the contract is much more valuable in a trade. I really like this idea.
 
maxiep said:
In retrospect, it actually isn't that bad, compared to the crap we've seen yesterday and today. I think it could be a tradable deal at some point.
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sure it will be tradable, at least in the context of getting something of value back. I don't think that's true though with 4 or 5 years left on the deal. Another summer next year of a bunch of huge contracts and Grant's will look just fine, especially if he performs like last season when he averaged 20.5 wile shooting over 40% on three's
 
Depending on what happens with the Dame trade, I could see Grant going out for Jarrett Allen at the deadline.

Grant/Nas for Allen/filler.

I'd do Grant/filler for Allen/filler pick.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Depending on what happens with the Dame trade, I could see Grant going out for Jarrett Allen at the deadline.

Grant/Nas for Allen/filler.

I'd do Grant/filler for Allen/filler pick.
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I’d love that trade. Allen would still have two years left after this season.

Scoot, Sharpe, Allen. Not to say Allen is a foundational piece, but he’s good enough that it gives us an opportunity to focus in on wings for the next two drafts.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
I wonder if Portland can front-load the contract. Pay him $38m this season and have it decline every season after
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I don't think there is any CBA rule prohibiting it. Would make him more tradable in a year or two
 
BankTeller said:
I’d love that trade. Allen would still have two years left after this season.

Scoot, Sharpe, Allen. Not to say Allen is a foundational piece, but he’s good enough that it gives us an opportunity to focus in on wings for the next two drafts.
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If we get Claxton, I'm not sure if I'd do it. But if we can't get Claxton, I could see us moving Grant for Allen.
 
Hollinger and Duncan podcast had an interesting discussion on Grants contract.

Duncan likes the contract irrespective of Dame. His point was that at the deadline a team like the Mavs would offer Holmes HardawayJR and a first round pick for Grant. Hollinger agreed with that point.

Duncan thought the Warriors for CP3 and a pick or Heat (if they don't have Dame) would consider Duncan Robinson and a pick trades as well.

Good argument that even without Dame maybe there is a bit of value in keeping Grant on this deal.

If I'm Cronin I hold firm on it being a declining deal and I don't allow a trade kicker. Unless those were specifically agreed to on June 30th. I'd prefer a non guarantees year 5 or team option but I'd assume those were discussed on Friday so can't be changed. If they weren't addressed then hold firm on those as well.
 
What’s getting rid of Simmons worth? 1 first? Herro is worth another 1st I guess. Robinson is worth a second maybe. Maybe if we throw in Little we can get 3 1s and Simmons back from Brooklyn, then 2 more 1s and Jovic from the Heat.

Simmons, Jovic, 5 1s for Dame/Little

Meh, better than what was first reported when we get absolutely fucked raw. Still think the Heat need to pay more.

I want Martin/Jovic/2 1s/1 swap from Miami

I want Simmons/3 1s from Brooklyn

So…

Simmons/Martin/Jovic/5 1s/1 swap
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Hollinger and Duncan podcast had an interesting discussion on Grants contract.

Duncan likes the contract irrespective of Dame. His point was that at the deadline a team like the Mavs would offer Holmes HardawayJR and a first round pick for Grant. Hollinger agreed with that point.

Duncan thought the Warriors for CP3 and a pick or Heat (if they don't have Dame) would consider Duncan Robinson and a pick trades as well.

Good argument that even without Dame maybe there is a bit of value in keeping Grant on this deal.

If I'm Cronin I hold firm on it being a declining deal and I don't allow a trade kicker. Unless those were specifically agreed to on June 30th. I'd prefer a non guarantees year 5 or team option but I'd assume those were discussed on Friday so can't be changed. If they weren't addressed then hold firm on those as well.
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And that's really the point. Being able to dump him and get something back. Letting him walk for nothing would have really sucked when we could have had Duren.
 
still no announcement.

is JG in town to be able to sign the deal?
 
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