Jerami Grant, yay or nay?

[Stevenson]

Marvin Bagley is playing great right now, making, I suggest, Jerami Grant far more expendable all of a sudden.

 

[e_blazer]

Isn't this whole issue about to become moot? I can't see the Blazers spending a first round pick in the 5-7 range on Grant and it looks pretty unlikely that we're going to get the Pelican's pick this year.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Isn't this whole issue about to become moot? I can't see the Blazers spending a first round pick in the 5-7 range on Grant and it looks pretty unlikely that we're going to get the Pelican's pick this year.

I would still bet on Minnesota and the Clippers to make the playoffs over the Pelicans. Yes, the Clips are depleted, but it does sound like George and NP are close to coming back. They need about 2 games to get back in form. That would be April 9th.

 

[blazerkor]

I would still bet on Minnesota and the Clippers to make the playoffs over the Pelicans. Yes, the Clips are depleted, but it does sound like George and NP are close to coming back. They need about 2 games to get back in form. That would be April 9th.

Without bias, I would put money down on it being the Wolves and Clippers that end up in the 7 and 8 seed for the playoffs. If Paul George is shooting with that elbow injury that means he's pretty much back and reports are that he might be back in the next couple of games which would give him 5 games to get in a rhythm. Norm seems a little further out but like you said if he's back by the end of next week that might give him enough time to get his legs under him. With those two guys added to what the Clippers already have despite there recent slump, I would think the odds would be pretty close in their game against the Wolves and whoever lost that game would be a huge favorite against the winner of the 9/10 game.

 

[e_blazer]

I would still bet on Minnesota and the Clippers to make the playoffs over the Pelicans. Yes, the Clips are depleted, but it does sound like George and NP are close to coming back. They need about 2 games to get back in form. That would be April 9th.

I hope you're right. I think that Ingram and CJ are a pretty good combo and that team is playing with more confidence than ever. That comeback against the Lakers was pretty impressive. Before CJ, that team would have just folded.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I hope you're right. I think that Ingram and CJ are a pretty good combo and that team is playing with more confidence than ever. That comeback against the Lakers was pretty impressive. Before CJ, that team would have just folded.

True but maybe that says more about the Lakers than the Pelicans. I mean we beat the Lakers as well starting a CJ.... and that was Elleby

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[blazerfan11]

True but maybe that says more about the Lakers than the Pelicans. I mean we beat the Lakers as well starting a CJ.... and that was Elleby

And the Pelicans just lost an important game to the Spurs in New Orleans.

 

[blazerkor]

I hope you're right. I think that Ingram and CJ are a pretty good combo and that team is playing with more confidence than ever. That comeback against the Lakers was pretty impressive. Before CJ, that team would have just folded.

It was a pretty impressive comeback but it's got to be troubling for a Pelicans fan that they were even down like that to a team they have to face again who will probably have AD back next time.

 

[illmatic99]

Looking through the numbers and skillset, I'd much rather give up the NO pick to Phoenix for Cam Johnson rather than use it for Jerami Grant. I think CJ (heh) rates out higher than JG by pretty much every metric except for raw points scored. And he's 3 yrs younger.

He's gonna be due for an extension next year and I don't see Sarver paying everyone.

 

[Boise Blazer]

So does the perception change if you look at the deal as essentially CJ for Grant and Hart? Just curious...

 

[blazerkor]

So does the perception change if you look at the deal as essentially CJ for Grant and Hart? Just curious...

I think if it ends up being that, then we got a deal that still benefited them but the biggest problem I have with the deal is that this pick still isn't guaranteed to be ours. That's essentially what makes this a terrible trade otherwise the only thing I'd be complaining about would be that we got next to nothing for Norm and RoCo.

 

[wizenheimer]

So does the perception change if you look at the deal as essentially CJ for Grant and Hart? Just curious...

that's a good deal for Portland. Two players that fit better with Dame than CJ does. Two players that fit better with Simons too

 

[Scalma]

So does the perception change if you look at the deal as essentially CJ for Grant and Hart? Just curious...

I mean, how does it not lol.

 

[HailBlazers]

I think if it ends up being that, then we got a deal that still benefited them but the biggest problem I have with the deal is that this pick still isn't guaranteed to be ours. That's essentially what makes this a terrible trade.

Trade wouldn't have happened if it was guaranteed.

 

[wizenheimer]

Trade wouldn't have happened if it was guaranteed.

yeah...and the Pels were not going to send an unprotected pick for CJ

I do kind of think the Blazers could have (maybe) got something like the Pels pick (protected 1-4) or the Lakers pick (protected 1-4), whichever was higher; and if neither than the Lakers 2024 pick (protected 1-4). If none of the three convey, then the Bucks 2025 pick (protected 1-4)

maybe that's too much but Portland should have got better draft assets than they did got CJ and Nance

 

[wizenheimer]

Isn't this whole issue about to become moot? I can't see the Blazers spending a first round pick in the 5-7 range on Grant and it looks pretty unlikely that we're going to get the Pelican's pick this year.

which team are the Pels beating on the road, the Clippers or the Wolves?

 

[e_blazer]

which team are the Pels beating on the road, the Clippers or the Wolves?

I’d say the Clippers are the most likely win, depending on how George’s elbow holds up. But point taken, the Pels still have an uphill battle.

 

[Hoopguru]

which team are the Pels beating on the road, the Clippers or the Wolves?

Neither...

 

[wizenheimer]

I’d say the Clippers are the most likely win, depending on how George’s elbow holds up. But point taken, the Pels still have an uphill battle.

even the first game at home assuming they are 9th will be a challenge. It could either be the Spurs, and Popovich is a pretty good coach; or the Lakers, with Lebron and AD

 

[e_blazer]

even the first game at home assuming they are 9th will be a challenge. It could either be the Spurs, and Popovich is a pretty good coach; or the Lakers, with Lebron and AD

Or the Lakers without LeBron and AD. And Pop may decide he'd rather have a lottery pick than getting a beatdown in the first round of the playoffs. Or the Pelicans could have a hot game and their opponent a crappy one. It's the NBA...anything can happen. All I'm saying is that I'm going to be a lot more confident in the Blazers' immediate future once the Pelicans are bounced from contention for the playoffs.

 

[wizenheimer]

Or the Lakers without LeBron and AD. And Pop may decide he'd rather have a lottery pick than getting a beatdown in the first round of the playoffs. Or the Pelicans could have a hot game and their opponent a crappy one. It's the NBA...anything can happen. All I'm saying is that I'm going to be a lot more confident in the Blazers' immediate future once the Pelicans are bounced from contention for the playoffs.

I haven't seen anybody dispute there's a chance the Pels make the playoffs. Just that the odds are against them

 

[Hoopguru]

Or the Lakers without LeBron and AD. And Pop may decide he'd rather have a lottery pick than getting a beatdown in the first round of the playoffs. Or the Pelicans could have a hot game and their opponent a crappy one. It's the NBA...anything can happen. All I'm saying is that I'm going to be a lot more confident in the Blazers' immediate future once the Pelicans are bounced from contention for the playoffs.

Expect the unexpected.

 

[Scalma]

I honestly think Watford will develop into a better player than Grant, but I'm also not as down on Jerami as some others seem to be. He's proven himself as a very good role player in OKC and Denver. As long as he doesn't demand to be a primary option, I'm probably down. Giving up a lottery pick for him though...thats gonna sting.

 

[blazedanugz]

I honestly think Watford will develop into a better player than Grant, but I'm also not as down on Jerami as some others seem to be. He's proven himself as a very good role player in OKC and Denver. As long as he doesn't demand to be a primary option, I'm probably down. Giving up a lottery pick for him though...thats gonna sting.

Watford will be better than jerami grant? This off season is going to be miserable on this board

 

[DDolla]

Mock Draft prediction: Blazers trade Pels pick for Grant

 

[Scalma]

Watford will be better than jerami grant? This off season is going to be miserable on this board

Since its crazy, im sure you won't have much trouble telling me which player is which



And these are the numbers from the whole season, not even split up to when Watford was starting. And its also his rookie year compared to Grant's 8th.

 

[blazerkor]

Since its crazy, im sure you won't have much trouble telling me which player is which

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And these are the numbers from the whole season, not even split up to when Watford was starting. And its also his rookie year compared to Grant's 8th.

Do you think that these numbers hold up when considering that one of these guys was the number one option on his team and the first person opposing team's game planned for and the other guy played the majority of his minutes against bench players and then graduated towards the end of his season to being a part of a mash unit? Just look at the usage and then look up the minutes they played and then give it a little more context considering that Trendon was most definitely going against much weaker opponents the vast majority of his playing time and had less attention payed to him at all times.

I'm not saying that Jerami Grant is an all star (I'm also not ruling out that he could be if put in the right situation) but I am saying the Jerami Grant slander in here has gotten pretty ridiculous from some. The fact is that if we acquire him he'll be our second or third option and he won't be too far off from his role he was most successful in with the Nuggets just with increased usage but still having the luxury of playing with a teammate on offense that attracts more attention than probably even Joker was when Grant played with him. So I think if it costs us the Pelicans pick then it's a very smart deal unless you think someone at that pick is a sure thing to be better than Grant during the window we're trying to capitalize on with Dame, in a role we need filled. If Keegan Murray somehow dropped that far or you have high grade for immediate impact from Jovic then that trade is dumb but otherwise I think it's pretty damn solid.

 

[Predator]

No. Jerami. Grant.

 

[blazerfan11]

Looking through the numbers and skillset, I'd much rather give up the NO pick to Phoenix for Cam Johnson rather than use it for Jerami Grant. I think CJ (heh) rates out higher than JG by pretty much every metric except for raw points scored. And he's 3 yrs younger.

He's gonna be due for an extension next year and I don't see Sarver paying everyone.

Me too. There are probably more options better than Grant that would cost a lottery pick.
I like Grant with the Blazers but not at that cost.