Jerami Grant, yay or nay?

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Should we trade for Jerami Grant?

  • Yes, he's a very good player, and I provide evidence below

    Votes: 11 12.8%

  • Sure if it's not for much - I wouldn't give up the Pelicans' first rounder though

    Votes: 47 54.7%

  • No, he's overpaid and inefficient

    Votes: 25 29.1%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 3 3.5%
  • Total voters
    86
I really like what Jarami brings, always have. Fact that he's so tight with Dame/Nurk ia big. But man am I weary after Afflalo, Powell, RoCo.
 
Go for Keegan Murray instead of Jerami Grant. Keegan Murray will turn out to be just what the Blazers need at PF, with play similar to Siakim in less than a season.
 
Jerami Grant might be the "Buck Williams" this team needs.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Jerami Grant might be the "Buck Williams" this team needs.
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Buck Williams - Career 12.8 PPG, 10 RPG, .549 FG%, ORtg 112, DRtg 104, VORP 21.7 (17 seasons)
Jerami Grant -- Career 11.4 PPG, 3.9 RPG, .452 FG%, ORtg 110, DRtg 110, VORP 5.7 (8 seasons)

It's surprising to see how much better and more efficient Buck was in so many areas.
 
TBpup said:
Buck Williams - Career 12.8 PPG, 10 RPG, .549 FG%, ORtg 112, DRtg 104, VORP 21.7 (17 seasons)
Jerami Grant -- Career 11.4 PPG, 3.9 RPG, .452 FG%, ORtg 110, DRtg 110, VORP 5.7 (8 seasons)

It's surprising to see how much better and more efficient Buck was in so many areas.
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Cherry picked. Game has changed. Look at 3 point shooting.
 
Also look at the numbers from age 28 on. Buck was asked to do different things when he came here.

Point is more that Grant with Lillard, Nurk, Little and Simons MIGHT be a very good move.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Cherry picked. Game has changed. Look at 3 point shooting.
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Yes, Buck (wisely) didn't shoot them at all.
Grant (unwisely) shoots too many for being a below league average shooter.....and wanting $28M/year. Of course Grant has a few things that are better....could have brought up FT shooting. But that doesn't change the massive difference in efficiency and effectiveness ratings.
 
TBpup said:
Yes, Buck (wisely) didn't shoot them at all.
Grant (unwisely) shoots too many for being a below league average shooter.....and wanting $28M/year. Of course Grant has a few things that are better....could have brought up FT shooting. But that doesn't change the massive difference in efficiency and effectiveness ratings.
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Dude? 35%-38% yes he needs to shoot 3's.
Anyway. Not gonna argue this.
First i said MIGHT!
Second i pointed out he is a piece of a team. Lillard seems to want team players.
 
There are a lot of 6'5" and taller players figured to go in the first round in the 2022 draft.
I hope Cronin is looking at them in detail before making any trade, and looking for a good fit for the Trail Blazers, not just looking for some guy that fits the TPE that another teams wants to unload.
 
TBpup said:
Yes, Buck (wisely) didn't shoot them at all.
Grant (unwisely) shoots too many for being a below league average shooter.....and wanting $28M/year. Of course Grant has a few things that are better....could have brought up FT shooting. But that doesn't change the massive difference in efficiency and effectiveness ratings.
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I want 28M a year too. So far I'm settling for a bit less but fingers crossed.

There is no way Grant and Williams were being compared as players as they have very different games. Pretty sure it was being thrown out there as Portland again adding a mature piece & quality talent to an established core. Also, I'd add some context to Jerami's shooting stats. The guards he's playing with in Detroit are awful and he often has to generate his looks from scratch despite the D knowing it's coming. I'd speculate thats largely why his percentages have dipped the last couple years and would expect he would get better looks alongside Dame.

STOMP
 
Strenuus said:
Btw final verdict:

Detroit wins any trade where we give up our lottery pick.
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Before the pick is even taken? Your takes are pretty questionable.
Lottery picks rarely work out. Final verdict because it's FACT.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'd agree if it was Portland's pick

if it was the Pels pick and it was 11th or 12th?....might be a different call
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Especially if it's Bledsoe + NOP pick for Grant. We would still retain our TPE and two seconds to play around with.

I do want to keep our own pick to draft a high level prospect regardless though.
 
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Scalma said:
cunningham
Giddy
Barnes
Mobley
Kuminga
Mitchell
Green
Wagner

that’s just from the last class. What are you smoking?
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Let’s see where that last class is in two years. What are you smoking?
 
TBpup said:
More caps....it makes me laugh. :twothumbs:
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Seemed like it was needed. Both the caps and the laugh I guess? I threw the red lettering and exaggerated the size so you didn’t miss it the third time like you did the first and second.
 
Scalma said:
Yes, its more likely they will all regress. Good one boss.
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Did you think one of the current draft class after the 4th pick was going to be better than a player we already have or Grant? Seriously?
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Did you think one of the current draft class after the 4th pick was going to be better than a player we already have or Grant? Seriously?
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yeah Giddey and Kuminga have all star ceilings. I don’t view grant as anything more than a role player, albeit a good one. But I don’t wanna give up a lottery pick for a role player (an expensive one at that) If Aaron Gordon didn’t fetch a lottery pick why should Grant
 
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Scalma said:
yeah Giddey and Kuminga have all star ceilings. I don’t view grant as anything more than a role player, albeit a good one. But I don’t wanna give up a lottery pick for a role player (an expensive one at that) If Aaron Gordon didn’t fetch a lottery pick why should Grant
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Totally understand where you're coming from on this. I also would love to see an all star with either one of the picks but a wonder if i would be willing to pass on a sure solid role player that my Hall of Fame all star i already have is asking for?
Just my take? Right now (If the rumors are correct?) Dame would love to see the Blazers pick up a player in the veteran category that can help him now on the court. I have read that some believe that could be Jerami Grant and he does fit that bill.
I'm good if they choose to go after him is all I'm saying.
 
Scalma said:
If Aaron Gordon didn’t fetch a lottery pick why should Grant
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While they're close to the same age and offer similar size & defensive capabilities, Grant is a solid outside threat while Gordon isn't. It wasn't until 3 seasons ago that Grant ascended into starters minutes. Over this and those past 3 seasons he's shot 37% from 3 on 4.5 attempts per game. Over the same 4 seasons Gordon has shot 33% from 3 on 3.5 APG. But perhaps an even better comparison happened during those 4 years, as both spent some time in Denver playing with the great Jokic.

96 games for Aaron Gordon. 31% 3pt% on 3.2 attempts per game

71 games for Jerami Grant. 39% 3pt% on 3.5 attempts per game

STOMP
 
On the other hand, these numbers for March don't look bad at all for Grant.
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blazerfan11 said:
Jerami Grant's stats. Trending in the wrong direction. I suppose the hope is that he'll turn them around at age 28 in a contract year?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/grantje01.html

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I actually just chalk it up to having bad teammates and getting discouraged with having to deal with so much defensive attention. My hope, if we end up with him is that he'll flourish as a second scoring option after having had to be options 1-3 for the last two seasons. I hardly think of 28 being a time that a guy like him would start to decline but you're actually inferring that his decline started at 25 or 26 without a major injury. Yeah, I don't think anyone is being illogical who thinks he might hit new career highs in being effective if he were surrounded on offense by Dame, Ant, Nurk and Josh Hart all of whom are better scorers than anyone he's played with the last couple of years, not to mention a high to mid lottery pick or an established player that a top pick would bring in.
 
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