Jerami Grant, yay or nay?

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Should we trade for Jerami Grant?


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Forget that he’s overrated for a second - why he isn’t worth a first rounder:

He’s a FA next summer - unrestricted
Agree he is not worth a lottery pick. But for Milwaukees pick I think he is. He gives Dame someone he wants next year, and he gives a rookie time to develop. I say get both unless the bidding gets too high for him. But for the reason you stated....it shouldn't.
 
Agree he is not worth a lottery pick. But for Milwaukees pick I think he is. He gives Dame someone he wants next year, and he gives a rookie time to develop. I say get both unless the bidding gets too high for him. But for the reason you stated....it shouldn't.

He’s not worth a 1RP period - you don’t take the risk of dumping a pick for a potential rental player who wants a max deal.
 
He’s not worth a 1RP period - you don’t take the risk of dumping a pick for a potential rental player who wants a max deal.
This max deal bullshit is getting so tired. The confirmed report for his asking price... not the price he's going to settle for but his asking price is 112M over 4 seasons... that's 90M less than a four year max deal would be for someone who was drafted when he was. The dude is not asking for max money. He's not even asking for CJ McCollum money and that's just what he was asking for to extend in Detroit. So to think that we could get him, if this is a preferred destination of his, for less than his asking price and a deal that started around 24M, is not a stretch.
 
This max deal bullshit is getting so tired. The confirmed report for his asking price... not the price he's going to settle for but his asking price is 112M over 4 seasons... that's 90M less than a four year max deal would be for someone who was drafted when he was. The dude is not asking for max money. He's not even asking for CJ McCollum money and that's just what he was asking for to extend in Detroit. So to think that we could get him, if this is a preferred destination of his, for less than his asking price and a deal that started around 24M, is not a stretch.

preach

there are always false narratives that seem to always survive even though any honest scrutiny debunks them in a hurry. In other words, bullshit. A max deal for Grant in 2023 would be in the 42-45M/year range
 
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Yeah... I don't see why we're interested in Ayton. Nurk is one of two folks on our team that are actually dependable and proven starters. Giving up assets and/or a lot of money to (maybe?!?) upgrade over Nurk doesn't make sense to me.

If Dame were 10 years younger, then it would make sense, but part of Ayton's allure is his youth, and that's not relevant given the current Cronin/Dame timeline.

Uh….you said “dependable?”
 
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Uh….you said “dependable?”
Outside Dame, what Blazer is more dependable?

Hart who has never been to the playoffs and has mostly been a bench playing guard with a poor 3 pt shot is probably the best.

I wouldn't classify Nurk as dependable compared to starters up and down most teams in the league. But when you look at this pathetic Blazers roster he probably is.
 
It's not enough for the 7th pick. If we're trading a pick for Grant, we'll trade back. We better not do that shit because I will be livid and so will pretty much everyone else in here.
Why is "trading back" for Grant ok? It's still giving up the Blazers best asset outside DameSimons for a worse asset.

Getting a worse draft pick back to justify this is a shady Neil Olshey way of trying to sell a shitty move.
 
Want nothing to do with Grant but if it is happening with #7 included then it had better also have #5 coming back Portlands way!
 
Why is "trading back" for Grant ok? It's still giving up the Blazers best asset outside DameSimons for a worse asset.

Getting a worse draft pick back to justify this is a shady Neil Olshey way of trying to sell a shitty move.
If we have a target further back I don't have as big of a problem with it. If the mission is to build a contender around Dame as soon as possible and they think that Dame, Ant and Grant are a core for doing that then they have to add complementary pieces to them. Don't get me wrong, if we're going to acquire Jerami Grant using the TPE, then I think the Pistons should have to settle for pick 36 and the Bucks 2025 FRP but when someone posts some shit about 7 for Grant straight up, I think maybe trading back and at least drafting one guy with untapped potential along with getting Grant sounds better.
 
If it was possible to trade Ant/7 for Grant/5 I’d consider it. I know he’s a FA, this is hypothetically the only way I would be ok with it. Then Draft Murray at 5.

Dame
Hart/Keon
Grant/Winslow
Murray/Nas
Nurk/GB3

Depending on FA that might be a good start.
 
If it was possible to trade Ant/7 for Grant/5 I’d consider it. I know he’s a FA, this is hypothetically the only way I would be ok with it. Then Draft Murray at 5.
Detroit would agree to that so fast. Hellz no!

Not worried about this happening as Ant is worth so much more then that.

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Detroit would agree to that so fast. Hellz no!

Not worried about this happening as Ant is worth so much more then that.

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Moving Simons for a role player at another position makes no sense. Simons has star potential.
 
After what he showed last year, I don't know why any Blazer fan wouldn't embrace the idea of him being the lead of their offensive attack.

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I agree about Simons but it appears we have two different timelines going, the Dame timeline and the Ant timeline. I would rather go the Ant timeline but if management is dead set on winning with Dame I can see Ant being traded, we don’t exactly have tons of players other teams find valuable. The only way we are upgrading our front court is by trading some combination of Ant, Nas, #7 and TPEs. For the record I don’t think Ant will be traded and I wasn’t pushing for it.
 
I think the Bucks pick is much more likely to be a lotto pick then not...

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Why on earth would that be? Giannis will turn 30 that season and is under contract. He'll likely be the best player in the league. Jrue has an option for that season that I doubt he turns down unless he's been extended. Also, that team's management has done a great job building a contender so there's no reason to think that in three seasons they're going to let that slip away. That pick seems very likely to be in the high twenties.
 
Why on earth would that be? Giannis will turn 30 that season and is under contract. He'll likely be the best player in the league. Jrue has an option for that season that I doubt he turns down unless he's been extended. Also, that team's management has done a great job building a contender so there's no reason to think that in three seasons they're going to let that slip away. That pick seems very likely to be in the high twenties.
Jrue will be 35 and possibly retired. Middleton will be 33 and has been having knee issues... new knees don't grow on trees. The great job the Bucks management has done building a contender has nothing coming up in the pipeline to replace their 2nd and 3rd best players. I see Giannis likely forcing his way out and the Bucks returning to be Milwaukee once their window to compete starts shutting... that might be sooner then later.

But but but, Giannis is would fetch a King's ransom right? Not necessarily. He's already shown some cracks in the armor with ongoing knee issues... those aren't going away with time.I expect them to be in full rebuild mode.

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Would you trade Bledsoe, Nas and #7 for Grant and #5?
Suggestions like these are what get people all butt hurt when an actual deal takes place. Why would Detroit trade down to swap grant for little? Gimme a fucking break.
 
Would you trade Bledsoe, Nas and #7 for Grant and #5?
I wouldn’t trade Nas to trade up. DET likely doesn’t want Nas in a trade down with Cunningham and Bey already there.

Little breaking out is going to give us the best chance to compete. This isn’t the summer to trade him, he’s shown enough flashes for me to be excited about—I’d rather keep Little and bank on his development than to trade him for the sake of trading up two spots. If one of the top 3 bigs fell, I’d consider trading up.

If the team traded Little, I’d understand, but I hope it’d be at the deadline. I see no risk to letting Little develop another year. If Little can play, he will likely impress a team enough that they’ll want to get his RFA rights and trade a late 1st next year for him.

Lets just bring in enough frontcourt players to make sure he doesn’t have to bang with bigs every night. He should be strictly covering guys 6’7 and under.
 

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