Jeremy Lin - Max Contract

[Sinobas]

Lin is an unrestricted free agent after this season. The Knicks will be over the luxery cap with only 8 players under contract, so signing Lin to a max deal give them major tax penalties. Maybe being NY, they don't care. But Portland would have the room to sign him, and it would solve our PG problem.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

I thought he was restricted?

 

[BrianFromWA]

Um, he's restricted because of the Arenas provision. And b/c of that the most anyone can offer him is the MLE, which they could match with their MLE. Unless they're only able to use the mini-MLE because they up their salary into hi tax range

Edit: You may be thinking of Early Bird. He's not that b/c he was waived.

 

[julius]

I would look forward to watching Nate McMillan coach Jeremy Lin.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Here's some info:
http://knickerblogger.net/finally-a-definitive-answer-on-jeremy-lins-contract-status/

Sounds like someone could offer a backloaded contract that would, if matched by N.Y., make their luxury tax payments pretty high in a couple years.

That said: lets not forget that Felton put up crazy numbers in D'Antoni's system. I like Lin, but I'd be curious to see what he would do anywhere but N.Y.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Imagine Armon Johnson's season this year, but in a #17 uniform. Not enough scrap and too many turnovers.

 

[ehizzy3]

lin wouldn't start over *insert mediocre pg(blake, felton, etc..)* cuz of his turnovers...before we get a franchise pg we need to get rid of nate

 

[Darkwebs]

Here's some info:
http://knickerblogger.net/finally-a-definitive-answer-on-jeremy-lins-contract-status/

Sounds like someone could offer a backloaded contract that would, if matched by N.Y., make their luxury tax payments pretty high in a couple years.

That said: lets not forget that Felton put up crazy numbers in D'Antoni's system. I like Lin, but I'd be curious to see what he would do anywhere but N.Y.

Isn't the backload contract how we stole Wes from Utah?

We need a PGOTF badly. If we offer him a big backloaded contract, that at least gives a slim chance at getting one without giving up much of anything other than capspace of course.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I swear to god some of you would masturbate to a Lin bobble head doll.

 

[julius]

I swear to god some of you would masturbate to a Lin bobble head doll.

yeah, and?

 

[illmatic99]

Nate would take one look at his turnover numbers and bench him for life.

We don't have a good track record (albeit, small) of developing starting PGs who excelled with D'Antoni's freedom.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

id much rather offer one of them back loads to deron, fuck it, front load that bitch

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Lin's having a nice run, despite all the turnovers, but I'm not sold yet on just how good he is.

 

[PapaG]

Isn't the backload contract how we stole Wes from Utah?

We need a PGOTF badly. If we offer him a big backloaded contract, that at least gives a slim chance at getting one without giving up much of anything other than capspace of course.

Matthews' contract was front-loaded, and Utah was cash poor.

 

[Rhal]

Matthews' contract was front-loaded, and Utah was cash poor.

Yep they had to take out a loan the year before just to match Millsaps front loaded contract. I'm curious as to who were gonna front load a contract for to steal from Utah this year.

 

[magnifier661]

Lin sanity will not work here; with a Nate system. The turn overs would have him yanked faster than you can say egg roll! Then you add that he's a young player and it spells disaster for that poor kid. What I think is going to happen are teams under cap offering a huge back loaded contrat like platypus said. The Knicks would be forced to match; which would put them in cap hell.

 

[Draco]

The Knicks have over $200 million in revenue per year. Hell the market cap of the Knicks franchise has increased $170 million since Lin has been starting! They are the richest team in the NBA. They didn't blink an eye on giving Amare a max contract that was un-insurable, a higher risk than Brandon Roy's contract. As a second year restricted free agent a max deal for Lin won't be terribly higher then the MLE, maybe something like 4 years ~$40 million at most? The Knicks would pay $100 million+ to keep him so there is no way in hell any team has a chance of stealing Lin away.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

There would only be any point to getting Lin if D'Antoni was coming with him. But if D'Antoni was here, Felton would be probably be putting up Lin-esque numbers anyway. And our record would be even more mediocre.

 

[magnifier661]

The Knicks have over $200 million in revenue per year. Hell the market cap of the Knicks franchise has increased $170 million since Lin has been starting! They are the richest team in the NBA. They didn't blink an eye on giving Amare a max contract that was un-insurable, a higher risk than Brandon Roy's contract. As a second year restricted free agent a max deal for Lin won't be terribly higher then the MLE, maybe something like 4 years ~$40 million at most? The Knicks would pay $100 million+ to keep him so there is no way in hell any team has a chance of stealing Lin away.

But you can make it so they are so far over cap that they can't grab a free agent. Doesn't matter how much they can pay. The CBA rules will only give them Min MLE to offer each year.

Also, pushing them even farther over the threshhold will share their tax revenue. Basically PDX will be getting some of the tax money, since it's a small market team.

 

[<-=*PdX*=->]

unless we also hire Dantoni away, why would we want lin?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

BUMP.

Now that Woodson has taken over, I thought Lin would basically vanish into the woodwork. But he hasn't. So it looks like Lin might not just be a product of D'Antoni. ALSO: since we last discussed this, Nate has been fired. So even if Lin was a product of D'Antoni, we could hire D'Antoni as well!

In fact: how about:
D'Antoni for new coach
Lin for new PG
Donny Walsh (who supposedly had a great relationship with D'Antoni but was forced by ownership into the Melo trade against his will) for new GM.

(On Lin: I think Linsanity was infact Linsane, but that Jeremy Lin is a very smart and a very clutch player, and we could really use somebody like that. He's got sort of Derek Fisher intangibles with a better game.)

THAT SAID, and remembering the thread title, it would be Linsane in the bad, certifiable sense, to offer him the max. I think he's comparable to someone like Goran Dragic, who earns only $2M a year. I'm still unclear: are teams forbidden from offering Lin more than the mid-level?

 

[e_blazer]

And we'd do all of this because the Knicks under D'Antoni were such a wonderful model of basketball success?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Well, they were from when they started Lin to when Carmelo came back and started hogging the ball.

Conversely: Lin is still playing well under Woodson. Plus the Suns with D'Antoni's system were AWESOME, and if D'Antoni can make Boris Diaw and Channing Frye look good...

Of course, if there was any chance of us getting Rondo or D-Will, then obviously that would be preferable. But there isn't. Who do YOU see as our starting PG next season? There aren't even any potentially great PGs in the draft.

 

[RR7]

when did D'Antoni make Channing look good?

 

[magnifier661]

Yeah no!!! Wouldn't even consider linsanity either. Lin may pan out to be a great pg. but I suspect our team needs a proven one. No more guessing about our floor general. We need a leader!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Yeah no!!! Wouldn't even consider linsanity either. Lin may pan out to be a great pg. but I suspect our team needs a proven one. No more guessing about our floor general. We need a leader!

And who is that great proven leader, itching to land in Portland?

 

[magnifier661]

And who is that great proven leader, itching to land in Portland?

Nash. Or getting rondo via trade.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Nash. Or getting rondo via trade.

Does wishful thinking count as a plan? Why not wish for Derrick Rose, while we're dreaming?

 

[magnifier661]

Does wishful thinking count as a plan? Why not wish for Derrick Rose, while we're dreaming?

Nash is hardly wishful thinking. No way Phoenix matches a 12 mil per offer; which we could offer. And as for rondo, it depends where we land in the draft. If we manage to get lucky and land the #4 pick, we could use that and take on contract to land him.

So you may think its wishful. I think it's actually not that hard.

 

[RR7]

Does wishful thinking count as a plan? Why not wish for Derrick Rose, while we're dreaming?

Isn't that the same wishful thinking that has you thinking NY will not match an offer to him? Your wishful thinking is ok, but his is wrong. Gotcha.