Jimmy Butler wants out? (He does.)

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Im sure everyone realizes that if the Blazers don't end up with Butler, it doesn't mean that Neil didn't propose a decent enough pkg.
Without CJ being on the table in a trade, then no.... he didn't propose a decent enough package.
 
Without CJ being on the table in a trade, then no.... he didn't propose a decent enough package.
I would agree with that. The Wolves would require much more than CJ, imo to send Butler here.
You know, they will ask for Dame as many other teams have and I think Neil would do a good job in saying no way jose.
 
I would believe that if hasn’t been on the job for 6+ years making the same excuse year after year... if that’s the case, then at some point you have to realize he is just not good at his job
I think he's done a decent job so far! This year the weighting is much heavier, however.
 
Well, what is it specifically about his character? He's not a criminal is he? Doesn't hang out with criminals does he? Has he ever put down any of his teammates in public? Has he ever hit a coach? Ever refused to listen to a coach?

Nope.

But he has blown up two teams. I don't want mine to be the third.
 
The thing is, it's not much better. It's better, but not "much" better, especially given the chance next year it'd be a starting lineup with only damian, maurice and nurk under contract.

It's like people don't get that. Sometimes the grass isn't greener, especially if you don't get that you might potentially cut off your own water source.

Defensively, it's MUCH better.
 
I'm gonna stick with my original opinion. I don't think calling out your teammates is wrong and it;s not the same as putting them down. I don't see anything disrespectful he has said about a coach. I think he is actually milder in confronting teammates than Jordan or Bryant. If you have some inside info, I'd be happy to hear it.

This is wrong. It IS wrong to call out your teammates, in the media...
 
Miami is evidently aggressive in their pursuit but I don’t see who the hell Minnesota would want off their roster. Whiteside isn’t a fit with KAT. Winslow maybe, but they’d still need to add salary to make that work and they don’t have any expirings. I bet Thibs would rather have Evan Turner than Tyler Johnson.
 
It might not be possible to get Minny to trade him to a team in the West.

We might be out simply because of that fact.
 
I wonder if the management of Minnesota is smart enough to figure out which conference they’re in...

Why do we even need conferences? The idea is antiquated and makes no sense in today's NBA. There has been a HUGE disparity in talent and competitiveness between the two conferences going back nearly two decades and it keeps getting worse.

So, Adam Silver, eliminate conferences and do it NOW!

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Pretty please:

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There, that's better...

BNM
 
Why do we even need conferences? The idea is antiquated and makes no sense in today's NBA. There has been a HUGE disparity in talent and competitiveness between the two conferences going back nearly two decades and it keeps getting worse.

So, Adam Silver, eliminate conferences and do it NOW!

BrF_BWBCIAA-WSB.jpg


Pretty please:

adam_silver.jpg


There, that's better...

BNM
Baby buster approves.
 
Miami is evidently aggressive in their pursuit but I don’t see who the hell Minnesota would want off their roster. Whiteside isn’t a fit with KAT. Winslow maybe, but they’d still need to add salary to make that work and they don’t have any expirings. I bet Thibs would rather have Evan Turner than Tyler Johnson.
The Zag?
 
Yes, it is wrong... However, it doesn't necessarily make him a BAD person or a terrible teammate.

It sure doesn’t make him a good teammate. Anyway, I don’t think calling out teammates is the biggest concern. I think it’s way worse.
 
It sure doesn’t make him a good teammate. Anyway, I don’t think calling out teammates is the biggest concern. I think it’s way worse.
Like hazing in the locker room worse? I'm trying to imagine what else it could be...
 
Like hazing in the locker room worse? I'm trying to imagine what else it could be...

An ex teammate of his has some pretty bad stories about Butler that to me are serious enough that I wouldn’t want him. I’m working on more details because i know it’s annoying to write this and not have specifics. It’s something I have been told but I need some more details. He’s done some pretty shady things.
 
An ex teammate of his has some pretty bad stories about Butler that to me are serious enough that I wouldn’t want him. I’m working on more details because i know it’s annoying to write this and not have specifics. It’s something I have been told but I need some more details. He’s done some pretty shady things.

Didn’t he smash KATs girl?
 
An ex teammate of his has some pretty bad stories about Butler that to me are serious enough that I wouldn’t want him. I’m working on more details because i know it’s annoying to write this and not have specifics. It’s something I have been told but I need some more details. He’s done some pretty shady things.
I really have no reason to believe you to not be telling the truth that youve heard he’s a bad dude in the locker room. I understand why you arent being specific, but without knowing any of those details its hard for me to ignore how much he could improve the on the floor product. For the most part what guys do off the court I dont care about. He has definitely not been good in the locker-room for Chicago or Minnesota though so I do see that as a risk for the Blazers.
 
He did recently start hitting on Dwades wife on social media lol

Lets be real
She posts a pic like that and damn is a comment which is made.
Gabrielle Union is absolutely one of the most beautiful women on the planet.

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Lets be real
She posts a pic like that and damn is a comment which is made.
Gabrielle Union is absolutely one of the most beautiful women on the planet.

NSFW
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Sure, I was just thinking of things an NBA player may not like a team mate to do.
 
Lets be real
She posts a pic like that and damn is a comment which is made.
Gabrielle Union is absolutely one of the most beautiful women on the planet.

NSFW
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You still don't do that
 
I know some don't like Butler, but in a weird way, our situation is like Toronto's - we need to make some changes to advance. Yes, there are challenges with taking risks.
 

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