Joe the Plumber isn't a plumber.

[Денг Гордон]

Except when he didn't in the link I provided. And we've had record revenues with the tax cuts.

Oh well, I figure the longer the Joe the Plumber story stays alive, the more the blue-collar workers realize exactly what they are facing if they dare question Obama.

Yeah...but thats not true, Obama didn't say that. In the article you linked, nowhere does it say Obama would extend the Bush tax cuts because not doing so would hurt the economy. The only thing that alludes to that is the author of the article saying, "Democrat Barack Obama says he would delay rescinding President Bush's tax cuts on wealthy Americans if he becomes the next president and the economy is in a recession, suggesting such an increase would further hurt the economy."

That of course is completely contradicted by the next paragraph, and an actual Obama quote.

"Nevertheless, Obama has no plans to extend the Bush tax cuts beyond their expiration date, as Republican John McCain advocates. Instead, Obama wants to push for his promised tax cuts for the middle class, he said in a broadcast interview aired Sunday.

"Even if we're still in a recession, I'm going to go through with my tax cuts," Obama said. "That's my priority.""

 

[barfo]

Meaningless, but quite amusing: it seems that Joe the Plumber is related to Charles Keating.

barfo

 

[Денг Гордон]

Meaningless, but quite amusing: it seems that Joe the Plumber is related to Charles Keating.

barfo

Is he? Olbermann just said that when you type in his last name Charles Keating comes up as a relative of a guy with the same last name, but Olbermann didn't think Joe the Plumber was related to Charles Keating. Did it turn out that Joe the Plumber actually was related to Keating?

 

[Minstrel]

Meaningless, but quite amusing: it seems that Joe the Plumber is related to Charles Keating.

Hilarious. It's almost like this was scripted by a writer with a weird sense of humour (God?).

 

[MARIS61]

So, the question is, do I work harder to try and make more $$$, or do I work less, post more, and hope to be given money from people working harder than I am?

People don't make more $ by working harder. That's a myth.

They make more $ by working smarter.

The only people getting money from people working harder than them are employers.

 

[PapaG]

Meaningless, but quite amusing: it seems that Joe the Plumber is related to Charles Keating.

barfo

And William F. Buckley Jr. is voting for Obama.

What is your point?

Plus, yet again, I know more about Joe the Plumber than I know about Obama.

 

[PapaG]

People don't make more $ by working harder. That's a myth.

They make more $ by working smarter.

The only people getting money from people working harder than them are employers.

Well, it seems we have a lot of "smart workers" here who have no problem giving away their money to who-knows-what.

Me? I give to charities. Directly.

 

[MARIS61]

Well, it seems we have a lot of "smart workers" here who have no problem giving away their money to who-knows-what.

Me? I give to charities. Directly.

Sure you do.

 

[barfo]

And William F. Buckley Jr. is voting for Obama.

Indeed he is.

What is your point?

That I found it amusing.

Plus, yet again, I know more about Joe the Plumber than I know about Obama.

Well, that's your own fault.

barfo

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Mickey Mouse is also voting for Obama. big whoop.

 

[barfo]

Is he? Olbermann just said that when you type in his last name Charles Keating comes up as a relative of a guy with the same last name, but Olbermann didn't think Joe the Plumber was related to Charles Keating. Did it turn out that Joe the Plumber actually was related to Keating?

Actually, the close relationship story seems to have been debunked. However, Keating does have relatives named Wurzelbacher, and how many unrelated Wurzelbacher families could there really be in the US?

barfo

 

[Minstrel]

Plus, yet again, I know more about Joe the Plumber than I know about Obama.

I know more about Michael Jordan than I do about John McCain.

I know more about pretty much every Blazer (except Shavlik Randolph) than I do about Sarah Palin.

Clearly, this should disturb you about McCain and Palin.

 

[PapaG]

Sure you do.

I do, and I can tell that you don't.

You're just like Biden and Obama!

Except, of course, for the $22.5k that Obama gave Rev. Wright's church in 2006

 

[PapaG]

I know more about Michael Jordan than I do about John McCain.

I know more about pretty much every Blazer (except Shavlik Randolph) than I do about Sarah Palin.

Clearly, this should disturb you about McCain and Palin.

A weak argument, especially coming from someone as smart as you.

Palin I agree with. I don't know much about her other than she is evil according to the media, but she's not running for President.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

A weak argument, especially coming from someone as smart as you.

Palin I agree with. I don't know much about her other than she is evil according to the media, but she's not running for President.

At least she has experience managing people.*


*other than a law school newsletter.

 

[PapaG]

Actually, the close relationship story seems to have been debunked. However, Keating does have relatives named Wurzelbacher, and how many unrelated Wurzelbacher families could there really be in the US?

barfo

Wow, imagine that.

 

[Minstrel]

Except, of course, for the $22.5k that Obama gave Rev. Wright's church in 2006

So new narrative: Obama not a snob, cares about his common man?

Let me guess...not where you were going with that.

 

[Minstrel]

A weak argument, especially coming from someone as smart as you.

I fight weak with weak. There are no strong arguments when dealing with "It's disturbing that I purposely know nothing about Obama!" So may as well keep it light.

 

[PapaG]

So new narrative: Obama not a snob, cares about his common man?

Let me guess...not where you were going with that.

6% of his income to "charity" isn't exactly noteworthy. Consider the racist church and the Congressional Black Caucus, and you are down to 3%.

Or is that a lot to you?

 

[PapaG]

I fight weak with weak. There are no strong arguments when dealing with "It's disturbing that I purposely know nothing about Obama!" So may as well keep it light.

I should read Obama's books. Then I would know what a great guy he is!

 

[Minstrel]

At least she has experience managing people.*


*other than a law school newsletter.

That law school newsletter might have had more people working on it than Palin managed in Wasilla. Or Alaska for that matter.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

That law school newsletter might have had more people working on it than Palin managed in Wasilla. Or Alaska for that matter.

I'm sure its more valuable than running one of the 50 states. If you honestly believe that, I don't know what to tell you. This is all old shit though, we can just leave it at that if you wish.

 

[Minstrel]

6% of his income to "charity" isn't exactly noteworthy. Consider the racist church and the Congressional Black Caucus, and you are down to 3%.

What does your second sentence mean? How does that reduce the percentage?

Or is that a lot to you?

It's more compelling than the evidence that Obama is a snob.

 

[PapaG]

That law school newsletter might have had more people working on it than Palin managed in Wasilla. Or Alaska for that matter.

Dumb post.

 

[Minstrel]

I'm sure its more valuable than running one of the 50 states. If you honestly believe that

I don't. You and PapaG are having a little fun because you're bored, and I'm having a little fun, too. None of us really believe that the election race is even, that Obama just lost Ohio and Pennsylvania or that Obama is a socialist. But it's fun to pretend!

 

[Minstrel]

Dumb post.

You don't mean that.

 

[PapaG]

You don't mean that.

I missed the humor in your post.

I need to give the politics a break.

Bah

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

I don't. You and PapaG are having a little fun because you're bored, and I'm having a little fun, too. None of us really believe that the election race is even, that Obama just lost Ohio and Pennsylvania or that Obama is a socialist. But it's fun to pretend!

again, why is Obama not a socialist. what's wrong with saying he is?

 

[barfo]

again, why is Obama not a socialist.

I'd guess it is more nurture than nature.

what's wrong with saying he is?

Nothing. Might as well say he's a plumber, too.

barfo

 

[Minstrel]

again, why is Obama not a socialist. what's wrong with saying he is?

Well, he's as much as socialist as all politicians have been in the US for the past 100 years or so. He's a mix of capitalism and socialism. Both the Republican and Democrat parties are branches of a Capitalist party, they just bicker over details. The US doesn't have a viable socialist party (which many democracies do). Obama is obviously more socialist than conservatives...but they're all on a spectrum and quite far away from communism.